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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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Well if you have a reflash you can disable CEL so...when they are doing an OBD check they are only looking for CEL lights. Correct?
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dikspiel
^you can easily pay someone to pass you for smog
It's not that easy nowadays. Lots of shop here isn't willing to take that risk for a extra couple hundred bucks. Might be different in SoCal prolly because of how large it is there and competition is a big factor.
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Done that. They're moving to OBD ONLY (plus visual)....no tail sniff. If non approved CARB can pass OBD then all is good, since you can pay the man to overlook visual.
HOWEVER>>>>you can't **** around with OBD, so if your 450WHP motor can't pass the scan you are FUUU###KD!
ask your buddy with a stock car to get the smog done with you, done. Just gotta find people that are willing to do the whole smog thingy...

I hate CA emission laws!
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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ask your buddy with a stock car to get the smog done with you, done. Just gotta find people that are willing to do the whole smog thingy...

I hate CA emission laws!
HMMM..VINS must match and OBD *knows* your VIN. Not a simple swap job anymore. Also, a lot of shops may look the other way on visual, but they're not gonna chance an OBD swap and get busted..loosing their licence and a huge fine to boot. Hey..not saying it can't be done, but it's not a cake walk any more..in fact it's a real BEEATCH to pull it off. Like I said, soon it will be ONLY OBD..the sniff test will be a thing of the past.

OH..check this out:

http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/enforcem...se20110204.pdf

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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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Well if you have a reflash you can disable CEL so...when they are doing an OBD check they are only looking for CEL lights. Correct?
NOPE. True, a cell light will fail you for sure, but OBD looks at *hidden flags* too. I was busted for that and failed. You can and will fail if you have a cell and just turn it off before you test. They do allow some hidden flags..depends on what they are and how many you have.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 04:20 PM
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you work for stillen?
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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NOPE...I could see how ya might think that though.
If GTM comes out with CARB, I might consider them as well, should I decide to FI my car. That decision will be a biggie for me though, since I like my HR the way it is and the $$ involved is a barrier for me right now.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ronn1


NOPE...I could see how ya might think that though.
If GTM comes out with CARB, I might consider them as well, should I decide to FI my car. That decision will be a biggie for me though, since I like my HR the way it is and the $$ involved is a barrier for me right now.
If you like your car the way it is, would you honestly consider cutting up your hood? I don't know about you, but that is a HUGE turn-off for me. I'd rather stay N/A than spend $6+k and have to cut up my hood.

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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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If you like your car the way it is, would you honestly consider cutting up your hood? I don't know about you, but that is a HUGE turn-off for me. I'd rather stay N/A than spend $6+k and have to cut up my hood.
Yes...I've seen this...pretty minimal in my opinion and not visible externally.
I think spending $7k would be more of a concern than modest cuts under the hood.

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Originally Posted by Flo-ridaZ33
9lbs and only making 425/330 on a HR?

This was done on our mustang dyno cause our dynojet was inop at the time so I wasnt able to get dynojet numbers that day. 425whp @9lbs sounds about right to me. DE and revup need to run the 2.87 pulley making 12-13lbs of boost the be in the 425+ range
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I thought I heard about a 370Z popping a motor with a Stillen kit on a Stillen tune? I thought that was funny because Kyle from Stillen and I had an argument about needing to do a dyno run to check the AFRs he claimed it was NEVER needed on this kit and a waste of money I know Stillen tried to keep the failure quiet but i read a thread on it awhile ago. For some reason i have never really liked Stillen maybe it was the crap kit they put out for DEs. I also think that intake manifold is ugly as sin.

I guess for HR guys with next to no options it is nice to have something even if it is an ugly water to air kit that hacks up your hood and only makes 377whp and 288ftlbs

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Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35
I thought I heard about a 370Z popping a motor with a Stillen kit on a Stillen tune? I thought that was funny because Kyle from Stillen and I had an argument about needing to do a dyno run to check the AFRs he claimed it was NEVER needed on this kit and a waste of money I know Stillen tried to keep the failure quiet but i read a thread on it awhile ago. For some reason i have never really liked Stillen maybe it was the crap kit they put out for DEs. I also think that intake manifold is ugly as sin.

I guess for HR guys with next to no options it is nice to have something even if it is an ugly water to air kit that hacks up your hood and only makes 377whp and 288ftlbs
Whats hilarious is HR guys have just as much options as DE pretty much now. GTM SC, GTM TT, Greddy TT, JWT, etc. So theres no reason to get the ugliest weakest kit on the market.
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 0jiggy0
Whats hilarious is HR guys have just as much options as DE pretty much now. GTM SC, GTM TT, Greddy TT, JWT, etc. So theres no reason to get the ugliest weakest kit on the market.
*Ugly*?? Come on.. as long as it looks *clean*. Go put up side by sides of em all...do ya really think Stillen HR kit is really any different?
Anyway....here's the kicker...if you're in Cali your choices are limited to CARB approved set ups..unless ya wanna roll the dice come smog time.
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Erik@R/Ttuning
This was done on our mustang dyno cause our dynojet was inop at the time so I wasnt able to get dynojet numbers that day. 425whp @9lbs sounds about right to me. DE and revup need to run the 2.87 pulley making 12-13lbs of boost the be in the 425+ range
Ok that make's more sense. I know I'm using my Rotrex set up as a reference and it's obviously a completely different animal. I was looking more at the torque rather than the peak HP. Thanks for the info though.

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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35
I thought I heard about a 370Z popping a motor with a Stillen kit on a Stillen tune? I thought that was funny because Kyle from Stillen and I had an argument about needing to do a dyno run to check the AFRs he claimed it was NEVER needed on this kit and a waste of money I know Stillen tried to keep the failure quiet but i read a thread on it awhile ago. For some reason i have never really liked Stillen maybe it was the crap kit they put out for DEs. I also think that intake manifold is ugly as sin.

I guess for HR guys with next to no options it is nice to have something even if it is an ugly water to air kit that hacks up your hood and only makes 377whp and 288ftlbs
It was a G37 that blew up... I remember it vividly because my dad was eying the kit for his 370z and I specifically mentioned that tid bit of info to him.

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Here's the link to the G37 fiasco:

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...oes-booom.html

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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Flo-ridaZ33
It was a G37 that blew up... I remember it vividly because my dad was eying the kit for his 370z and I specifically mentioned that tid bit of info to him.

**Edit**

Here's the link to the G37 fiasco:

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...oes-booom.html
Ok..I think we know why:

The picture above is what's left of a VQ37 rod and piston from a 2008 G37 coupe which had the Stillen supercharger kit. From what I have been told the kit was installed by a certified Infiniti dealership and covered under warranty. In this configuration it was working quite well. Two days before catastrophy the owner had Stillen headers added to the car and was informed there was no need for a tune change. The failure happend when the owner was in 2nd gear and punched it. He had a loss of power, gauges showed nothing, and he looked into the mirror to see oil and peices of transmission littering the middle of the road
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Here is our recent experience with a Stillen / Vortech supercharger kit on an 2007 350Z HR. Comparison of out-of-the-box install, Haltech upgrade, and Nitrous upgrade.

FWIW, there was some slight knock on the uprev/stillen flash out of the box.

Click the link above for details.




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Wow whats up with the TQ bump @4250rpm lol... I clicked on the link and only got the intro and no real info. Have you seen or installed any GTM kits?
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Flo-ridaZ33
Wow whats up with the TQ bump @4250rpm lol... I clicked on the link and only got the intro and no real info. Have you seen or installed any GTM kits?
"For that extra kick, a Nitrous Express dry system was added along with a Haltech CAN IO Box to control it, yielding 431whp (black line)"
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My bad... I failed at reading
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