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Old 03-21-2012, 09:59 AM
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op-you went w the vortech??
Old 03-21-2012, 11:01 AM
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my vortech made 400ft-lbs. my dynos are all over this forum.

who cares what the boost level is.... LOL You dont get on a dyno to measure restrictions.




Originally Posted by Alberto
The curves may have similar shapes. But the S/C TQ curve will be 30-40ft/lbs down.

Show me a Vortech at 8psi pushing 400ft /lbs. You can't.

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Old 03-21-2012, 11:19 AM
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Whats the point in bragging about a S/C and how it can match a turbos TQ if it takes many more mods or much high boost?

If you dont want to talk dynos tell us what it ran at the track.

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Old 03-21-2012, 12:34 PM
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Who's bragging? Only speaking the truth.

Its doesnt take more mods. I slapped on a V3 vortech, plumbed up a fuel system, and ran a UTEC. As basic and easy to do as you can get.

Boost is a measure of restriction, not a measure of power. High boost, low boost, its all relative and worthless in any intelligent conversation.


I'm glad I had a supercharged car, and I'm glad its turbocharged now. But on a stock block, it really doesnt matter.

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Old 03-21-2012, 01:08 PM
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yes after talking with multiple forum members and other research i picked up tougelabs v2 kit with mutliple diff pulleys, momentum intercooler, synapse bov , walbro pump, rc 550 inj, and a aem wideband along with this i am tuned on uprev have test pipes, hks rep duals with magnaflow X pipe, plenum spacer depending on which pulley i end up deciding to throw on (prob the 3.12 for the time being untill a oil cooler/return line kit come around)
Old 03-21-2012, 01:09 PM
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any ideas if ill be realistically near 400?
Old 03-21-2012, 01:19 PM
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dang man almost 3 years 400+ post and you really dont know anything about FI

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Old 03-21-2012, 01:23 PM
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You act like 400ft/lbs or close to that is the norm for a bolt on S/C kit and it's not. Your post is misleading. That's like me saying every 500whp Z runs low 11s look at how true that is.

There is most certainly a difference within most bolt on setups with turbos having a clear advantage in peak TQ and a better overall powerband.
Old 03-21-2012, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
dang man almost 3 years 400+ post and you really dont know anything about FI

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so because ive had a Z for 3 years im supposed to have read threw the forced induction forums? lol please dont be so childish. 3 years ago i never would have even thought i could afford anything of this type. and if i had ventured out and done all this research back then i wouldnt have been working my *** off to have the money to do it now. please be an adult if you plan to post in this thread and help me as apposed to bash me with petty stuff hence why we have a forum. to learn from others
Old 03-21-2012, 01:32 PM
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not to mention this thread isnt 100% about helping me out. im doing my reading and research on my own the thread is about why you or someone decided on the form of FI they went with
Old 03-21-2012, 04:32 PM
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I don't own either but have been thinking about the same question. Here are the advantages of each in my mind (probably wrong on some):

Supercharger
- less expensive to install (especially compared to twin turbos)
- more reliable since install is less complex
- easier and quicker to install
- less lag than turbo
- no special shutdown procedures required
- charge temperature is lower
- save money on intake mods since they don't help

Turbo
- bigger top-end gains especially hp
- quieter than supercharger
- better gas mileage than SC
- higher efficiency because of no continual parasitic drag
- potentially less stress on engine since boost is not continuous
- better gains on lower rpms - torque and hp
- save money on headers since they don't help
Old 03-21-2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ndelgro
I don't own either but have been thinking about the same question. Here are the advantages of each in my mind (probably wrong on some):

Supercharger
- less expensive to install (especially compared to twin turbos)
- more reliable since install is less complex
- easier and quicker to install
- less lag than turbo
- no special shutdown procedures required
- charge temperature is lower
- save money on intake mods since they don't help

Turbo
- bigger top-end gains especially hp
- quieter than supercharger
- better gas mileage than SC
- higher efficiency because of no continual parasitic drag
- potentially less stress on engine since boost is not continuous
- better gains on lower rpms - torque and hp
- save money on headers since they don't help
headers help tons on most turbo cars...
Old 03-21-2012, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ace32x
headers help tons on most turbo cars...
I'll look into the header issue more.

A couple of more advantages to Turbo that came to mind:
- no belt slippage
- more seat-of-the-pants fun?
Old 03-21-2012, 05:48 PM
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In retrospect I probably would've gotten a Momentum when it was available but I'm happy with what I got in the HKS GT Supercharger kit.
Old 03-21-2012, 09:56 PM
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also charge temp is cooler with a turbo with the same boost level since its more effecient
Originally Posted by ndelgro
I don't own either but have been thinking about the same question. Here are the advantages of each in my mind (probably wrong on some):

Supercharger
- less expensive to install (especially compared to twin turbos)
- more reliable since install is less complex
- easier and quicker to install
- less lag than turbo
- no special shutdown procedures required
- charge temperature is lower
- save money on intake mods since they don't help

Turbo
- bigger top-end gains especially hp
- quieter than supercharger
- better gas mileage than SC
- higher efficiency because of no continual parasitic drag
- potentially less stress on engine since boost is not continuous
- better gains on lower rpms - torque and hp
- save money on headers since they don't help
Old 03-21-2012, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 350z006
Vortech = CARB in bacause California sucks for cars
^i concur!!
Old 03-22-2012, 12:25 AM
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Just take a ride in a turbo Z, decision made.
Old 03-22-2012, 03:04 AM
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Congrats on the boost. Be careful and have fun w it.
what clutch/fly do you have? Better start thinking about things to support.
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Originally Posted by maximumsportZ
Just take a ride in a turbo Z, decision made.
Damn look who it is! How you been? Still have the car?
Old 03-22-2012, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Damn look who it is! How you been? Still have the car?


Yes brother, finally still getting back into it, runs like day one. How's your Z doing?? Glad to see you're still around.


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