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lol..my old thread that I let drop is here somewhere... half that GTM horror history is there...haven't posted in months 'cause it ain't no use (lol). its so long a story I pm'd you for the method to discover everything in detail..
its hard to make 440whp right out of the box on stock engine with 600 cc injectors, fuel pump, and UpRev tune. Which their stage 1 and 2 have proven to do time and time again. Only other option for that ease of power is Greddy and I'm not willing to shell out $2,500 for the same power.
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just sayin'......After the ***** I have been through with them and the 2-3 thousand dollars of my parts that they lost/stole, 26K TT stroker engine build done incorrectly, lazy azz work ethic, and Sam being a LIAR, I won't do business with anyone like that regardless if his ***** don't stink or not.....you want to do business with *******s and thieves, go right ahead..ill open tha door for ya'....keep a hand on your walllet....
Do you really expect him to tell you step by step how he lost TWENTY SIX THOUSAND dollars, simply because you think it was a fluke?
They are borderline fraudulent and I'm shocked that people would ever recommend them.
If you decide to go with them hearing all this, you frankly deserve to get ripped off imho.
Last edited by Resmarted; Nov 19, 2012 at 12:59 AM.
I am the recipient of a bunch of I told you so's after my build went sour with a local shop. Guys were screaming out their warnings- telling me that judging by what I was telling them the shop said to me they had no freaking idea what they were doing and that I should fire them immediately and take the car to another shop.
I was a bit defensive about the notion, wanting to believe that I had been directed to the shop for a reason and wanted to see it play out. The story is long and complex- suffice to say I had my reasons for seeing it through with progressive auto in Victoria, bc.
It wasn't until much later- after my engine blew up on the Dyno (I'm overstating it a bit- bent rod is all but the result was practically the same) and the subsequent teardown occurred where the incompetence truly showed. All the points I'd been warned about right down to basic mechanics came into play. Jank workmanship invisible while the motor was still in the car- inappropriate preparing of parts, fundamental lack of awareness of the kit- and absolutely no support despite it being painfully evident that among other things they didn't even secure the block in the car.
I was in a similar situation in that I was very limited in who I could trust to install the kit. I learned my lesson the hard way: if you don't have a bulletproof shop that you can trust then don't install the 4cking kit until you do.
What does this all mean? These guys know their ****- and though we all need to evaluate the information we receive from strangers in the forums- it doesn't take a person long to figure out who you can lean on.
You want to follow me through a 30k sinkhole that was my build- I welcome you to go through my diary of the process in my build thread. Go on Over to my Vancouver island thread here, which died around the time my engine did and was picked back up in the g35 jwt take two thread... Go ahead like so many others did and face palm your way through my mistakes- that's why I post them...
Perhaps I'm speaking beyond my level- I can't tell you much about the technical side- that's my biggest mistake in this whole pursuit... But what I can tell you is that when these guys are jumping up and down warning you off a shop and offering you suitable solutions and alternatives- for the love of god man... Listen.
I was a bit defensive about the notion, wanting to believe that I had been directed to the shop for a reason and wanted to see it play out. The story is long and complex- suffice to say I had my reasons for seeing it through with progressive auto in Victoria, bc.
It wasn't until much later- after my engine blew up on the Dyno (I'm overstating it a bit- bent rod is all but the result was practically the same) and the subsequent teardown occurred where the incompetence truly showed. All the points I'd been warned about right down to basic mechanics came into play. Jank workmanship invisible while the motor was still in the car- inappropriate preparing of parts, fundamental lack of awareness of the kit- and absolutely no support despite it being painfully evident that among other things they didn't even secure the block in the car.
I was in a similar situation in that I was very limited in who I could trust to install the kit. I learned my lesson the hard way: if you don't have a bulletproof shop that you can trust then don't install the 4cking kit until you do.
What does this all mean? These guys know their ****- and though we all need to evaluate the information we receive from strangers in the forums- it doesn't take a person long to figure out who you can lean on.
You want to follow me through a 30k sinkhole that was my build- I welcome you to go through my diary of the process in my build thread. Go on Over to my Vancouver island thread here, which died around the time my engine did and was picked back up in the g35 jwt take two thread... Go ahead like so many others did and face palm your way through my mistakes- that's why I post them...
Perhaps I'm speaking beyond my level- I can't tell you much about the technical side- that's my biggest mistake in this whole pursuit... But what I can tell you is that when these guys are jumping up and down warning you off a shop and offering you suitable solutions and alternatives- for the love of god man... Listen.
He's not the only one to get burned by gtm. Other guys who have very good reputations for not being dumb-asses got railed by them too.
Do you really expect him to tell you step by step how he lost TWENTY SIX THOUSAND dollars, simply because you think it was a fluke?
They are borderline fraudulent and I'm shocked that people would ever recommend them.
If you decide to go with them hearing all this, you frankly deserve to get ripped off imho.
Do you really expect him to tell you step by step how he lost TWENTY SIX THOUSAND dollars, simply because you think it was a fluke?
They are borderline fraudulent and I'm shocked that people would ever recommend them.
If you decide to go with them hearing all this, you frankly deserve to get ripped off imho.
LOL @ 1000 horsepower and GTM still being mentioned in the same sentence. Never have I seen a shop with so much 1000whp envy.
You aint the only one man.I hate to say this but it looks like GTM and AAM are close to the same.
Last edited by superchargedg; Nov 19, 2012 at 02:53 PM.
You've established yourself as a total idiot now.
You simply cannot say a turbo kit is capable of xxxxhp when it never once has delivered that hp, on numerous builds/attempts.
XKR supposedly made 1000whp with his GTM kit when he re-dyno'ed on a DJ. But he is the only one that I am aware of who made 1000whp with a GTM turbo kit (besides the bogus white unicorn claims that were never backed up with any proof whatsoever).
now.Again, it's the engines that arent capable of the power numbers, not the kit.
Nope. I'm just not some nuthugging noob spewing 1000 horsepower numbers about a turbo kit that was never R & D'ed at anything close to that power level. Unlike yourself, I've been around here longer than a couple months and have seen countless 1000whp claims over the years from GTM and their products even though they STILL haven't built a single 1000whp Z or G. Enjoy the taste of that white unicorn crank bro.
What the fact that the Greddy kit with the 20G turbos are only good for 700whp at $10,500 or that the GTM garrett GT3071 turbos are good for 800-900whp at only $8,400? The positives seem to be the fitting of the Greddy kit is superior but beyond that it seems you're paying for $2,000 more for a kit with equal to or lesser power capabilities. Putting aside GTMs notorious inferior customer service the discussion of Greddy being over priced isn't ridiculous at all.