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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Is there actually a platform where they have budget builds? Lol sittin here thinking

Sure. Most V-8s. Engines are already forged and strong.

Most notably Mustang Cobra are dirt cheap to get power.

G/f's brother has a 04 Cobra. Put about $2,000 into it. Ported his stock supercharger, 3" exhaust, long-tube headers, light weight pulley.

545 WHP.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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i could turbo my 1.5L 4afe beater for about 500$. might actually make 100 fwhp then. I was bored the other day and actually made the parts list. LOL

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo350z#0310
Sure. Most V-8s. Engines are already forged and strong.

Most notably Mustang Cobra are dirt cheap to get power.

G/f's brother has a 04 Cobra. Put about $2,000 into it. Ported his stock supercharger, 3" exhaust, long-tube headers, light weight pulley.

545 WHP.
not really impressed with this…and this isnt an attack on the GF brother...

GF brother: 5.4 liter supercharged V8 = 101 whp per liter
Me: 3.5 liter supercharged V6 = 130 whp per liter

and I'm sure that people more people are closer to 150 to 200 whp per liter...

albeit, I spent way more than $2000...
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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So does that mean that the S2000, which makes 107hp per liter, is super awesome right out of the box? I always hated measuring performance that way.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bealljk
not really impressed with this…and this isnt an attack on the GF brother...

GF brother: 5.4 liter supercharged V8 = 101 whp per liter
Me: 3.5 liter supercharged V6 = 130 whp per liter

and I'm sure that people more people are closer to 150 to 200 whp per liter...

albeit, I spent way more than $2000...
Here's what your missing bro, he put $2,000 into parts (parts for the Mustang are also much cheaper than the Z platform) and got 545whp out of it that is safe and reliable and can be beat on constantly everyday without breakage or detonation. Maybe you are missing the point the he hardly had to even work for that power. Bro, basically he's got exhaust, a pulley, and ported the stock supercharger and he's pumping out that power. It's not like he squeezed every freaking bit of man juice out of that thing to make that power. He's barely running more boost than stock. Put a kenne Bell Supercharger on it and he'd have close to 700whp.

"HP per liter" whatever, in the end you find me a 350z that has 545whp that only cost you $2,000 and can absolutely thrash the hell out of it and not worry about detonation, snapped rod, spun bearing, etc etc etc.

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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:31 AM
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Domestic motors are not bulletproof either. They are susceptible to the same issues.....after all it is still just a motor.

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So does that mean that the S2000, which makes 107hp per liter, is super awesome right out of the box? I always hated measuring performance that way.
Rev any car to the moon and it will have stellar hp/liter.
Tq/liter is a different story.
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
Domestic motors are not bulletproof either. They are susceptible to the same issues.....after all it is still just a motor.
Forged internals, higher resistant parts, better fasteners, already rated for higher power numbers.

"It's still just a motor?" You're talking semantics here.

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Originally Posted by bealljk
not really impressed with this…and this isnt an attack on the GF brother...

GF brother: 5.4 liter supercharged V8 = 101 whp per liter
Me: 3.5 liter supercharged V6 = 130 whp per liter

and I'm sure that people more people are closer to 150 to 200 whp per liter...

albeit, I spent way more than $2000...
That may be true. But measured in whp/$, the VQ is a horribly expensive and unreliable platform to boost compared to other platforms; both in terms of building the motor and all the supporting mods. There is a reason why LS swaps are becoming more popular in the VQ community. If I knew then (5 years ago) what I know now, I never would have started an ambitious FI build project on a VQ.
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Mentioning a car that already has FI is silly to bring up when discussing budget BUILDS, that is budget MODDING.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Mentioning a car that already has FI is silly to bring up when discussing budget BUILDS, that is budget MODDING.
Alberto in every thread.


Edit: I take "build" as any form of modding to a certain extent with a specific goal in mind. Just exhaust- maybe not. But porting superchargers, aftermarket superchargers, and several other parts I would consider "build."

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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Mentioning a car that already has FI is silly to bring up when discussing budget BUILDS, that is budget MODDING.
LOL True. An NA Mustang or Camaro would have been a better comparison.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
LOL True. An NA Mustang or Camaro would have been a better comparison.
I can do that..

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/pro...FQWe4AodtxUAhg

lol

A good example would be my freind's Mach 1. It's basically the Cobra engine non-FI. So bolt on the stock supercharger $499 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/03-04-Mustan...item3f21607afe), various manifold adaptors, a small stock intercooler, etc etc , come out $1500 - $2000 with a serious HP punch.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismo350z#0310
Alberto in every thread.


Edit: I take "build" as any form of modding to a certain extent with a specific goal in mind. Just exhaust- maybe not. But porting superchargers, aftermarket superchargers, and several other parts I would consider "build."

You are wrong. Building = adding something to a platform. Porting a Stock S/C or changing a pulley with bolt ons isn't a built car lol. Ask anybody with credibility and they would dick smack you back to reality.

You fail.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismo350z#0310
I can do that..

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/pro...FQWe4AodtxUAhg

lol

A good example would be my freind's Mach 1. It's basically the Cobra engine non-FI. So bolt on the stock supercharger $499 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/03-04-Mustan...item3f21607afe), various manifold adaptors, a small stock intercooler, etc etc , come out $1500 - $2000 with a serious HP punch.
$3000 + install and tuning on a basic Vortech kit is close to the same of a used kit bought here and installed. I didn't bother checking to see if that includes an intercooler either.

Regarding bolting on a stock S/C, its more than just an intake manifold. Different timing covers, possible accessories relocated for belt routing, piping, fuel, other supporting mods and tuning solutions. All that adds to more than $1500, again you prove you are a mongoloid.

This isn't a "how fawking cheap can we piece a crap kit together" go to clubsi for that trash.

Edit-and LMFAO if you think an NA Mach 1 motor is the same as the Terminators engine. I'm not going to get into all the upgrades SVT did to that cars block, iron>aluminum, different pistons, etc.

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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
You are wrong. Building = adding something to a platform. Porting a Stock S/C or changing a pulley with bolt ons isn't a built car lol. Ask anybody with credibility and they would dick smack you back to reality.

You fail.
No I don't fail.

A "build" is not the same thing as a "built engine."

A "build" doesn't even have to include engine modification. Someone could have a build with overhauling their suspension and braking, weight reduction, etc.

I never fail. I wont back down bro. Don't think you can come at me with your weak sauce troll.
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Originally Posted by Alberto
$3000 + install and tuning on a basic Vortech kit is close to the same of a used kit bought here and installed. I didn't bother checking to see if that includes an intercooler either.

Regarding bolting on a stock S/C, its more than just an intake manifold. Different timing covers, possible accessories relocated for belt routing, piping, fuel, other supporting mods and tuning solutions. All that adds to more than $1500, again you prove you are a mongoloid.

This isn't a "how fawking cheap can we piece a crap kit together" go to clubsi for that trash.
Seeing close freinds have done the build themselves I'll take everything you said, put it in a paper bag and throw it off the face of a cliff. Bro walked out with a converted Mach1 to stock charger, reliable at a little over $2,000. That included the tune, from a guy here in NC who is known for his sorcery of mustang tunes.

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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:23 AM
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Aren't you the same guy who argued with me that a stock Blower Terminator couldn't reach 530+whp reliably??

When intact porter blower and supporting mods routinely can make those numbers.

That alone proves you don't know $hit about fawk, and argue based solely on what your "bros" feed you. By the time we are done arguing, you will be able to tell everyone how my d!ck tastes.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Aren't you the same guy who argued with me that a stock Blower Terminator couldn't reach 530+whp reliably??

When intact porter blower and supporting mods routinely can make those numbers.

That alone proves you don't know $hit about fawk, and argue based solely on what your "bros" feed you. By the time we are done arguing, you will be able to tell everyone how my d!ck tastes.
No... I wasn't that guy? I've stated the contrary, that his stock blower made 545whp. Are you stupid?

I own you on this subject, brah. You like putting your dick in guys mouths , don't you.

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You are in fact an idiot. I didn't say 500+whp wasn't possible, I KNOW its possible and commonly done. Yet when I called you on this before, you denied it. You told me those numbers were NOT the norm, in fact they are. Go check their forums.

Your basis for arguing in that thread, like in this one, was your boyfriends car.

You deny you are the guy. Here is the proof you are a liar and that you don't know $hit.

https://my350z.com/forum/other-vehic...5-22psi-2.html

So how's it taste?

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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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And again I bring this up because you ignored it. You saying the NA Mach 1 motor and the Terminator motor are essentially the same is about as dumb as someone saying a 4G63 and the 2.0L NA engine are the same.

Learn more about different platforms on your own without your boyfriends feeding you BS before you start arguing.

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