It looks better and its way faster..... he he he

Please someone blow this thread up.

But first, pleasssee rude back up these arguments.

 

i dont have 40k into my car INCLUDING the cost of the car let alone the engine build in fact if you include the cost of my rods, pistons(which i had to have imported from europe), bearings, fluidamper, machine work(which is 3x more expensive on this island then stateside), cosworth baffle, head and main studs, head gaskets, new oil pump, and gasket kit i have 5k invested. stateside and cp pistons i could have gotten it done for ~4300. as far as reliability its all in the builder from what i have seen of pf supercars(the shop alberto now uses) i would imagine his would have went much better if he started with them, havnt looked into rudes much to be honest however while i dont have many miles on mine i have more miles on my setup then several of the multi engine guys, one or two i have more miles then all there engines combined and i built my **** in my driveway.........

with that said the stock de cams make outstanding torque in the mid range if you know what your doing, the only person loosing credibility is you. theres nothing wrong with the platform, it wont hold the power stock like a 2jz but theres nothing magical that stops it from making power, just go take a look at vtr's 1600 hp vq35(which i believe is a de to boot) its the builders not the engine. in fact guys with 2jz's recommend rebuild for above 700 anyway because they say its a time bomb. both platforms are equally expensive as well.

its also funny how EVERYONE is calling you a joke yet you seem to still think that your opinion outweighs everyone else's sorry thats not how the world works. the people you are calling jokes and trolls all have already done it, remind me again how much power your making? not to mention i have experience on other platforms as well, mostly camaros but thats not all recently been working on my buddys 2010 wrx as well and anothers evo vIII because people turn to me. your like the high school kid trying to laugh with all the popular kids and repeatedly failing to realize they are laughing at you.

 

I respect your argument. Mostly respect the manner of your reply. No Alberto sexual perverse troll reply. I see what your saying. I think mostly though, people aren't throwing money or engineering parts to put the HRs up there in the extreme power.

 

i leave perverse sexual comments for wife, her friends, and work so i get my fill. once going for big power there is really no advantage of the hr, even for intake flow there are options and even some options people havnt explored that im working on such as shortening runners to right shift power bands. theres alot more still that can be done with the platform and since theres no advantage to the hr when moving for big power(in fact the hr smaller valves actually hurt) theres no reason for the extra cost.

 

I still don't like him.... He's agreeing to being proved wrong now.? Broski get the Megan's and curb feelers and drift with me you French panzi

 

Whether the DE or the HR looks better is a subjective opinion. I have seen a lot of negative comments/opinions on this forum about the hump or bulge on the HR hood. I personally don't like the look of the HR hood either.

Is the DE faster NA. No. The HR is faster in NA form. Having both a G35 and a 370Z, I can tell you the power and torque delivery are quite different between the two. The DE motor definitely has more ***** in the lower half of the rev range than the VHR motor. My 370Z feels weaksauce below 3000RPM, but has more top end power. Hence, my G was more fun to drive (felt "faster") on the street and my 370Z shines on the open highway.

The DE has thus far proven to be faster when boosted. It's common knowledge that boosted HR's don't make as much torque. Look at the Top 25 drag list. I see only one HR on that list.

https://my350z.com/forum/drag/233840...ons-stock.html

 

and how many hr's do you see on the top 50 list

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...p-50-list.html

(cux acknowledges that the top 50 list is not all inclusive but it is what we have to go on)


How many HR's north of 600whp period?500whp? CSC is POS and holding it back big time.



Pretty sure the NA WHP record still belongs to a DE

https://my350z.com/forum/na-builds/5...ed-372whp.html

(cux also acknowledges that it is a one off but still, lets swing some ***** shall we!)

 

+1 on most of what you said.

Subjectively I love the HR hood. Especially from the side profile.

Also worth mentioning, as already stated in the thread, I owned a '05 DE between 05 - 07. The power delivery is night and day for the HR, and probably the biggest improvement is the power which is non stop till 7500 rpms. My biggest complaint on my DE was when I finally felt I was getting power , fuel cut hit. As for the torque delivery at low rpm, I still feel the HR is superior. If anything a wash down low.

 

I'm not even going to try with this guy anymore. You're batsh*t hypocritical nismo and you're a scrub.

Ty alberto for the wishes as well, again I appreciate it.

 

Funny, I'm not the one putting people down. Bring some constructive, positive discussion to the table or don't input at all.

 

You called me and two other members on here trolls. You spew miss-information constantly. Then you turn around when you see people being decent and start acting buddy buddy with them. Keep in mind these are the same people you've "slain" with "facts" you made up. You're posting in an obvious troll thread about building your own custom turbo kit, when last I checked you don't even have a turbo kit. My car might not be running, but I made and designed my own turbo kit. You don't have any experience on this platform to contribute. You clearly don't understand or interpret the basic information presented on this forum. Furthermore you deny and disrespect the very people who I would say helped pioneer this platform.

You're one of those un-reachable people. Your logic twists and turns so no matter what is said and put forth, you always believe you're correct even when you're blatantly wrong.

When I joined, I was very argumentative. I also refused to grasp many things that were said on this forum. Then I got my hands dirty and learned the hard way. I have a lot more respect for the guys on this board than when I first joined. I really doubt anyone on here other than you would claim I don't contribute constructively to the best of my abilities. I also won't hesitate to be deconstructive towards utter bullsh*t like yours.

Really all I have to say. Hope you get your act together, start listening, and get some humility.

 

i come back after a few days and see PAGES of responses on this thread on an OP dreaming about FI. I assumed it was handled within those first three flame responses. but then since it continued, I start to imagine "maybe the forum got together and it was like a scene out of A Beautiful Mind and we all figured out how to make an effective mid mount turbo system with a new type of flexible, super heat resistant PVC pipe.

 

Please tell me this misinformation I'm spewing. And please tell me of when I ever said I was "building a customer turbo kit." Please tell me how I have no experience.

Please address all these accusations. Obvious troll is obvious.

Your first post was sarcastic and disrespectful towards me, but the funniest part is you have ZERO experience with the Mustang platform. The very argument I was on against Alberto and addressed him with my personal experience.

Please have an in depth discussion on how any of that information is misinformation.

Jerry came in and gave in depth information in a polite and constructive manner. And many of the points I don't disagree with. It's not being buddy buddy. It's respecting his mature way of communication, instead of coming in this thread and immediately being accusational and down talking. Please give me information to refute mine if its misinformation. Especially with your experience on the other platform.

You have a lot of explaining in your accusations.

 

So this nismo clown doesn't even have FI? So my DE probly really is faster lmao.

Bronismo, you sir are a cuck. I don't want to do sick drifts with you and I take back my offer

 

No. No matter how many air intakes you stick on that thing its not faster.

I'm making a check list of everyone calling me out on the FI. Remember your comments here.

 

You don't like me but keep mentioning my name over and over since I last came in here to laugh at you.

There are two, maybe three guys who drive their cars as hard as me, you can't use the extreme end (me) as an argument for reliability you fawking idiot.

Where in VA are you? I work all over VA. You're a fawking clown, look how many people dislike you and WE are all wrong?

Writings on the wall.

 

It's the same 3 people. You, Rude and Resmart. This isn't the first time I've had it out with you three. I'll bump heads with Yall all day. Especially when you are calling me out about a platform you have zero experience in. That'd what started this who thing.

 

Are you saying an N/A HR is faster then a DE w/FI??? Curious, what is done/being done to your car?

 

You keep going back to the othe platform argument. You proved in another thread you don't know $hit. Your boy blowing smoke up your a$s doesn't = you are a wealth of info in that platform.

You obviously think you know about our platform, and the truth is the 3 "trolls" have forgotten more than you've ever known.

Truth.

Again, where in VA are you?

 

Alberto and I both provided links to threads where you spewed misinformation. Deny it all you want, but the links speak for themselves. I don't see anyone agreeing with you or speaking up in your defense. On the contrary, I see others chiming in with us "3 trolls" and telling you that you're wrong.

Open your eyes. The three of us aren't the only ones telling you that you are wrong. It started when you posted more misinformation in your 2nd post of this thread...
No, most V-8 motors do not have forged internals, especially within the context of domestic naturally aspirated V-8's. Furthermore, The VQ is NA. So to compare it to a factory FI'ed V-8 is silly and offers nothing useful to the discussion. Hence, your post was both incorrect and useless. So then you got called out... then you were indignant, arrogant, and delusional as usual... then others told you that you were wrong and nobody agreed with you (as usual)... and here we are now with you still in denial and thinking you're right.

This noob thread sucked bad enough without you adding to it.