Vortech motor build
05-29-2014, 11:52 PM
#124
need some help
Not trying to jack this thread but looking for some input. I just installed my v3 kit and have about 1 200 miles on it and it's running Strong. The build consisted of:
Vortech v3 tuner kit, 3.12 pulley, mishimoto oil cooler and catch can, cmj stage 0 fuel return, 600cc dw injctrs, 1 step cooler plugs, 255lph fuel pump, plenum spacer, long tube headers, borla exhaust, up Rev maf, up Rev Osiris tune and still using 91oct pump gas.
We made 402whp and 347 lbs tq on 8 psi on what the tuner said was a "safer" tune.
I would like to up these numbers and make more power under 2 scenarios.
1). Not changing internals, re-tuning and pushing harder on the tune. what does everyone think would be the max to push with or without any other mods I could do?
2). If I have exhausted my options for base mods and need to replace internals and build the motor what is everyone's input on parts and manufacturers to get better numbers keeping cost in mind. I don't have a cap on budget but always looking for best bang for buck.
Sorry for lengthy post just trying to provide as much info as I can.
Thanks everyone.
Vortech v3 tuner kit, 3.12 pulley, mishimoto oil cooler and catch can, cmj stage 0 fuel return, 600cc dw injctrs, 1 step cooler plugs, 255lph fuel pump, plenum spacer, long tube headers, borla exhaust, up Rev maf, up Rev Osiris tune and still using 91oct pump gas.
We made 402whp and 347 lbs tq on 8 psi on what the tuner said was a "safer" tune.
I would like to up these numbers and make more power under 2 scenarios.
1). Not changing internals, re-tuning and pushing harder on the tune. what does everyone think would be the max to push with or without any other mods I could do?
2). If I have exhausted my options for base mods and need to replace internals and build the motor what is everyone's input on parts and manufacturers to get better numbers keeping cost in mind. I don't have a cap on budget but always looking for best bang for buck.
Sorry for lengthy post just trying to provide as much info as I can.
Thanks everyone.
05-30-2014, 02:50 PM
#125
Dude, you need to search and read more. There is tons of info about the answers your looking for.
If after you have done your very best to search and learn, I'll help you.
Oh, you did Hijack this thread. You should start your own.
If after you have done your very best to search and learn, I'll help you.
Oh, you did Hijack this thread. You should start your own.
Not trying to jack this thread but looking for some input. I just installed my v3 kit and have about 1 200 miles on it and it's running Strong. The build consisted of:
Vortech v3 tuner kit, 3.12 pulley, mishimoto oil cooler and catch can, cmj stage 0 fuel return, 600cc dw injctrs, 1 step cooler plugs, 255lph fuel pump, plenum spacer, long tube headers, borla exhaust, up Rev maf, up Rev Osiris tune and still using 91oct pump gas.
We made 402whp and 347 lbs tq on 8 psi on what the tuner said was a "safer" tune.
I would like to up these numbers and make more power under 2 scenarios.
1). Not changing internals, re-tuning and pushing harder on the tune. what does everyone think would be the max to push with or without any other mods I could do?
2). If I have exhausted my options for base mods and need to replace internals and build the motor what is everyone's input on parts and manufacturers to get better numbers keeping cost in mind. I don't have a cap on budget but always looking for best bang for buck.
Sorry for lengthy post just trying to provide as much info as I can.
Thanks everyone.
Vortech v3 tuner kit, 3.12 pulley, mishimoto oil cooler and catch can, cmj stage 0 fuel return, 600cc dw injctrs, 1 step cooler plugs, 255lph fuel pump, plenum spacer, long tube headers, borla exhaust, up Rev maf, up Rev Osiris tune and still using 91oct pump gas.
We made 402whp and 347 lbs tq on 8 psi on what the tuner said was a "safer" tune.
I would like to up these numbers and make more power under 2 scenarios.
1). Not changing internals, re-tuning and pushing harder on the tune. what does everyone think would be the max to push with or without any other mods I could do?
2). If I have exhausted my options for base mods and need to replace internals and build the motor what is everyone's input on parts and manufacturers to get better numbers keeping cost in mind. I don't have a cap on budget but always looking for best bang for buck.
Sorry for lengthy post just trying to provide as much info as I can.
Thanks everyone.
06-05-2014, 05:50 PM
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Project Complete
Stop the timer! One year, 2 months, 1 week, and 5 days. The project is finally done.
It's not "out of this world" impressive, but I ended up with a very safe tune since I'm limited by 91 octane.
It has no timing advance...he kept it right around 17 degrees.
I was hoping for a lot more peak torque, but at least it's flat and I know it'll last some hard road racing.
It has more potential but I can't go any higher unless I step up to a Haltech and run e85 flex fuel.
Here's the results:
Here's the complete build list again:
It's not "out of this world" impressive, but I ended up with a very safe tune since I'm limited by 91 octane.
It has no timing advance...he kept it right around 17 degrees.
I was hoping for a lot more peak torque, but at least it's flat and I know it'll last some hard road racing.
It has more potential but I can't go any higher unless I step up to a Haltech and run e85 flex fuel.
Here's the results:
Here's the complete build list again:
Engine/Drivetrain Modifications:
Rebello Built Motor
JE Pistons 9.5:1CR Moly-Coated .020 over
Eagle Rods
Supertech Intake Valves
JWT C2 Camshafts
JWT Valve Springs and Shims
UpRev Osiris ECU Reflash and Dyno Tune
Vortech V3 Supercharger with Si Impeller
Vortech 3.33 Pulley
Garrett/ATP 900hp Intercooler
Bosch EV14 900cc Fuel Injectors
Aeromotive 340LPH Fuel Pump
GTM Dual Vortech Pulley Kit
Kinetix Velocity Manifold
NWP 75MM Throttle Body
Timrod Vortech Radius Rod Strut
Gates Heavy Duty Serpentine Belt
Oil Warmer Bypass
Evans NPG+C Waterless Coolant
Mishimoto Silicone Hose Kit
JWT Clutch/Flywheel Combo
Strafe Vortech Intake Pipe
Custom 3.5" Cold Air Intake
Quaife LSD
CD009 Transmission
DC Sports Ceramic Headers
Motordyne variable-pressure ART testpipes
Bassani CatBack Exhaust
Stillen Oil Cooler
Koyo 54mm Aluminum Radiator
UpRev MAF GT Sensor
NGK Iridium 1-step colder spark plugs
Stillen Engine Damper
6-Wire Grounding Kit
Air Diversion Radiator Cooling Plate
Stainless Steel Clutch Line
NISMO Differential Cover
Injected Performance Differential Brace
Energy Suspension differential bushings
IPP Chromoly Clutch Pivot Ball
ZCarGarage Vortech Bypass Valve Silencer
Custom Power Steering Cooler
Suspension Modifications:
Tokico D-Spec Shocks/Struts
Tokico 375lbs/375lbs Springs
Brembo front & rear calipers
Stoptech Stage 2 Rotors, Pads, and Lines
Hotchkis Front and Rear Swaybars
Powergrid Front and Rear Endlinks
Kinetix front camber arms
SPL rear camber arms
SPL Eccentric Lockout kit
Energy Suspension LCA bushings
Wheels/Tires Modifications:
Front:
Hankook Ventus R-S3 265/35/18
Enkei RPF1 18x9.5 +15 Hyperblack Gunmetal 18.6lbs
Rear:
Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35/18
Enkei RPF1 18x10.5 +15 Hyperblack Gunmetal 19.7lbs
Interior/Exterior Modifications
VIS Carbon Fiber Lip
ZSpeed Undertray
MOMO Millenium Evo Steering Wheel
Works Steering Wheel Hub
Prosport Premium Boost Gauge
Prosport Premium Oil Temp Gauge
Prosport Premium Fuel Pressure Gauge
Celica GTS-Style Rear Spoiler
NISMO 380RS Gas Pedal
Smoked Rear Turn Signals
Black Front Sidemarkers
Black Front and Rear Emblems
Tinted Windows
Tinted Taillights
JVC KW-AVX810 7" Touchscreen
Sony XS-HF78 Front Speakers and Tweeters
ZEnclosure 10" subwoofer enclosure
JBL GTO-1014D 10" Subwoofer
Sony XM-4040 400 Watt Amp
S2K Short Antenna
Rear bumper tuck
Rear Wiper Delete
Z1 Hatch Struts
Painted Door Handles
Rebello Built Motor
JE Pistons 9.5:1CR Moly-Coated .020 over
Eagle Rods
Supertech Intake Valves
JWT C2 Camshafts
JWT Valve Springs and Shims
UpRev Osiris ECU Reflash and Dyno Tune
Vortech V3 Supercharger with Si Impeller
Vortech 3.33 Pulley
Garrett/ATP 900hp Intercooler
Bosch EV14 900cc Fuel Injectors
Aeromotive 340LPH Fuel Pump
GTM Dual Vortech Pulley Kit
Kinetix Velocity Manifold
NWP 75MM Throttle Body
Timrod Vortech Radius Rod Strut
Gates Heavy Duty Serpentine Belt
Oil Warmer Bypass
Evans NPG+C Waterless Coolant
Mishimoto Silicone Hose Kit
JWT Clutch/Flywheel Combo
Strafe Vortech Intake Pipe
Custom 3.5" Cold Air Intake
Quaife LSD
CD009 Transmission
DC Sports Ceramic Headers
Motordyne variable-pressure ART testpipes
Bassani CatBack Exhaust
Stillen Oil Cooler
Koyo 54mm Aluminum Radiator
UpRev MAF GT Sensor
NGK Iridium 1-step colder spark plugs
Stillen Engine Damper
6-Wire Grounding Kit
Air Diversion Radiator Cooling Plate
Stainless Steel Clutch Line
NISMO Differential Cover
Injected Performance Differential Brace
Energy Suspension differential bushings
IPP Chromoly Clutch Pivot Ball
ZCarGarage Vortech Bypass Valve Silencer
Custom Power Steering Cooler
Suspension Modifications:
Tokico D-Spec Shocks/Struts
Tokico 375lbs/375lbs Springs
Brembo front & rear calipers
Stoptech Stage 2 Rotors, Pads, and Lines
Hotchkis Front and Rear Swaybars
Powergrid Front and Rear Endlinks
Kinetix front camber arms
SPL rear camber arms
SPL Eccentric Lockout kit
Energy Suspension LCA bushings
Wheels/Tires Modifications:
Front:
Hankook Ventus R-S3 265/35/18
Enkei RPF1 18x9.5 +15 Hyperblack Gunmetal 18.6lbs
Rear:
Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35/18
Enkei RPF1 18x10.5 +15 Hyperblack Gunmetal 19.7lbs
Interior/Exterior Modifications
VIS Carbon Fiber Lip
ZSpeed Undertray
MOMO Millenium Evo Steering Wheel
Works Steering Wheel Hub
Prosport Premium Boost Gauge
Prosport Premium Oil Temp Gauge
Prosport Premium Fuel Pressure Gauge
Celica GTS-Style Rear Spoiler
NISMO 380RS Gas Pedal
Smoked Rear Turn Signals
Black Front Sidemarkers
Black Front and Rear Emblems
Tinted Windows
Tinted Taillights
JVC KW-AVX810 7" Touchscreen
Sony XS-HF78 Front Speakers and Tweeters
ZEnclosure 10" subwoofer enclosure
JBL GTO-1014D 10" Subwoofer
Sony XM-4040 400 Watt Amp
S2K Short Antenna
Rear bumper tuck
Rear Wiper Delete
Z1 Hatch Struts
Painted Door Handles
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06-10-2014, 07:23 AM
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Here's a graph with my tune before the motor blew compared to now. The old dyno doesn't have boost recorded, but it was about 11psi at 6600rpm previously.
06-10-2014, 07:05 PM
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Those two runs are almost identical to one another except that the new one extend further out. You are running the upgraded SI impeller and your newer crankshaft pulley is bigger than OE, correct? It surprises me that you are making slightly less or same amount of boost, perhaps due to the pressure loss from the much larger FMIC.
06-10-2014, 07:16 PM
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Those two runs are almost identical to one another except that the new one extend further out. You are running the upgraded SI impeller and your newer crankshaft pulley is bigger than OE, correct? It surprises me that you are making slightly less or same amount of boost, perhaps due to the pressure loss from the much larger FMIC.
06-10-2014, 07:29 PM
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BTW, any idea how your peak IDC looks like? Curious to see since my readings seems whack and i'm running almost the same setup as yours with an RFS.
06-11-2014, 07:39 AM
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Didn't even think to ask. He would have mentioned if my injectors were nearing peak. Feel free to ask Rob next time you talk to him.
