haltech and steering angle sensor issue
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haltech and steering angle sensor issue
Has anyone run to something like this?
I just recently installed an AAM TT kit with a Haltech PnP. After getting it running the VDC/Slip lights were on. Tracked this down to the steering angle sensor. Had a friend who is a long term Nissan tech use consult to reset the sensor to 0, but it won't reset. Just picked up another sensor, we connected it before installing, and read clear, no code. Then installed and started and moved the car to start the reset process and the replacement sensor has an error and reads 3276.8 (again), and now won't reset.
So we checked the wiring between the VDC/ABS module, and the power and ground, and verified no shorts on the two CAN bus connections. Even checked the alternator for too much ripple (no).
Only thing we can think of is some weird CAN bus issue with the Haltech talking on the bus triggering the fault. Admittedly, this is unlikely as the Haltech PnP has been around awhile and isn't uncommon. At $200 a pop for the sensor I don't want to throw a ton of money on tracking down the cause, so I'm looking for any similar issues from other Haltech cars.
Car is tuned and drivable, just no VDC/traction control or cruise. Also, I can't play with wheel slip based boost or timing as the wheel slip signal is from the ABS controller and it's doesn't calc in this mode.
I just recently installed an AAM TT kit with a Haltech PnP. After getting it running the VDC/Slip lights were on. Tracked this down to the steering angle sensor. Had a friend who is a long term Nissan tech use consult to reset the sensor to 0, but it won't reset. Just picked up another sensor, we connected it before installing, and read clear, no code. Then installed and started and moved the car to start the reset process and the replacement sensor has an error and reads 3276.8 (again), and now won't reset.
So we checked the wiring between the VDC/ABS module, and the power and ground, and verified no shorts on the two CAN bus connections. Even checked the alternator for too much ripple (no).
Only thing we can think of is some weird CAN bus issue with the Haltech talking on the bus triggering the fault. Admittedly, this is unlikely as the Haltech PnP has been around awhile and isn't uncommon. At $200 a pop for the sensor I don't want to throw a ton of money on tracking down the cause, so I'm looking for any similar issues from other Haltech cars.
Car is tuned and drivable, just no VDC/traction control or cruise. Also, I can't play with wheel slip based boost or timing as the wheel slip signal is from the ABS controller and it's doesn't calc in this mode.
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That is odd. While unlikely, it could be a CAN issue for your particular model. I assume you are using the latest firmware. Anyway, I would try contacting Haltech USA and Hal over at Dynosty.
EDIT: I think it is more likely you need to take the car to the dealer and have a proper reset done. If it won't reset something is wrong with the VDC/ABS computer and/or your reset tool.
EDIT: I think it is more likely you need to take the car to the dealer and have a proper reset done. If it won't reset something is wrong with the VDC/ABS computer and/or your reset tool.
Last edited by rcdash; 09-16-2015 at 02:30 PM.
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That is odd. While unlikely, it could be a CAN issue for your particular model. I assume you are using the latest firmware. Anyway, I would try contacting Haltech USA and Hal over at Dynosty.
EDIT: I think it is more likely you need to take the car to the dealer and have a proper reset done. If it won't reset something is wrong with the VDC/ABS computer and/or your reset tool.
EDIT: I think it is more likely you need to take the car to the dealer and have a proper reset done. If it won't reset something is wrong with the VDC/ABS computer and/or your reset tool.
We did check the CAN bus wiring for continuity, shorts to ground, and off resistance, and the pin connectors at the sensor end. He found a similar report in the North American tech db where the pins on the ABS module had a poor fit. We didn't check that (yet) as it talks to consult and the wheel sensors through those just fine, but that's next. I can probably get my hands on another ABS module to check to see if it's the issue.
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This all depends on the direction and how far wound the spiral cable is to start with. It is possible to undo a single malrotation or 1/2 rotation this way.
Of course the best solution is to put things back together exactly as they were taken apart, marking everything appropriately.
Of course the best solution is to put things back together exactly as they were taken apart, marking everything appropriately.
Last edited by rcdash; 09-18-2015 at 05:28 PM.
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No, just been ignoring it. I do have another sensor I could put in and access to another car with a functioning ABS/VDC module I could borrow for testing. I did get my own traction control working by using the wheel speed difference signal instead of wheel slip as that's valid. So other than no cruse control the only effect is I don't need to turn VDC off every time I start the car (and the VDC/slip light is on).
I have also bench tested the new sensor on a can bus to a system I control. The sensor goes from ok to reading 32768 if turned past +/- 720 degrees as mine in the car is. The difference is, it clears on a power cycle where the one in the car does not. I've got a datasheet for a similar sensor that shows the raw can data and error codes I found online.
Did you go Haltech PnP and who did your tune? (I'm tuned by Speciality Z).
I have also bench tested the new sensor on a can bus to a system I control. The sensor goes from ok to reading 32768 if turned past +/- 720 degrees as mine in the car is. The difference is, it clears on a power cycle where the one in the car does not. I've got a datasheet for a similar sensor that shows the raw can data and error codes I found online.
Did you go Haltech PnP and who did your tune? (I'm tuned by Speciality Z).
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No, just been ignoring it. I do have another sensor I could put in and access to another car with a functioning ABS/VDC module I could borrow for testing. I did get my own traction control working by using the wheel speed difference signal instead of wheel slip as that's valid. So other than no cruse control the only effect is I don't need to turn VDC off every time I start the car (and the VDC/slip light is on).
I have also bench tested the new sensor on a can bus to a system I control. The sensor goes from ok to reading 32768 if turned past +/- 720 degrees as mine in the car is. The difference is, it clears on a power cycle where the one in the car does not. I've got a datasheet for a similar sensor that shows the raw can data and error codes I found online.
Did you go Haltech PnP and who did your tune? (I'm tuned by Speciality Z).
I have also bench tested the new sensor on a can bus to a system I control. The sensor goes from ok to reading 32768 if turned past +/- 720 degrees as mine in the car is. The difference is, it clears on a power cycle where the one in the car does not. I've got a datasheet for a similar sensor that shows the raw can data and error codes I found online.
Did you go Haltech PnP and who did your tune? (I'm tuned by Speciality Z).
My Z was tuned by Dynosty, but built by another shop and I use a Haltech platinum pro. When I got the car back Dynosty thought the steering rack was put in crooked because the VDC was freaking out. I had a shop look at it and everything was right, but they noticed when I put the steering hub on the rubber piece on the clock spring was not aligned with the hole in the hub. We thought that was the issue and fixed that. But then the VDC still wasn't working. The shop looked at the clock spring and said it spun too many times and broke, so we replaced that. Now they aren't able to zero out the steering angle sensor. I think it works at first but then freaks out when they start the car again. The last time they tried to calibrate it they said they couldn't even get a reading of the steering degree. They think my sensor might be bad. I did a little research and came across your thread because apparently we are the only two with this issue. I called Haltech to ask them about it and they said that is something that might have to be reset with a nNissan tech's diagnostic tool. I also called Dynosty to see if they had come across this issue before and they said no.
Currently I have the YAW sensor unplugged which may keep Dynostys traction control from working (they said it has to do with the ABS module so as long as my odometer is working their traction control is working but I am not so sure.) I now have the option of dealing with the dealership or maybe replacing the steering sensor. I just want to make sure that whatever gets done this time actually fixes my issue.
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No, just been ignoring it. I do have another sensor I could put in and access to another car with a functioning ABS/VDC module I could borrow for testing. I did get my own traction control working by using the wheel speed difference signal instead of wheel slip as that's valid. So other than no cruse control the only effect is I don't need to turn VDC off every time I start the car (and the VDC/slip light is on).
I have also bench tested the new sensor on a can bus to a system I control. The sensor goes from ok to reading 32768 if turned past +/- 720 degrees as mine in the car is. The difference is, it clears on a power cycle where the one in the car does not. I've got a datasheet for a similar sensor that shows the raw can data and error codes I found online.
Did you go Haltech PnP and who did your tune? (I'm tuned by Speciality Z).
I have also bench tested the new sensor on a can bus to a system I control. The sensor goes from ok to reading 32768 if turned past +/- 720 degrees as mine in the car is. The difference is, it clears on a power cycle where the one in the car does not. I've got a datasheet for a similar sensor that shows the raw can data and error codes I found online.
Did you go Haltech PnP and who did your tune? (I'm tuned by Speciality Z).
Also note that 32768 is key because that is over the limit of an integer in 16bit notation signed (if negative then it is in range, at the max limit)
Never had this issue, have had a haltech since 2009 and taken the coupler off a dozen times.
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The scary thing is that a good sensor can read no codes, be zero'd by consult, then be installed and get into an 'un-calibrated' state, and not be able to be zero'd out by consult. So I don't know if a new sensor solves the problem as I've already done that. I do plan on trying the other sensor that works that I have.
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Update, I bought one of these: to allow me to put the electronic park brake into 'pad mounting position' on my wife's LR4.
Anyway, I also downloaded the Nissan toolset, it has a steering angle reset/cal function. With zero hope or expectation gave it a shot, and it worked. I can see the sensor data in the haltech software and it seems to function normally. Don't know what it did, if anything, beyond the dealer consult tool we were using.
Now, I just need to work out why my cruise control won't engage and get used to turning off VDC again, but at least I no longer have any warning lights on the dash.
Anyway, I also downloaded the Nissan toolset, it has a steering angle reset/cal function. With zero hope or expectation gave it a shot, and it worked. I can see the sensor data in the haltech software and it seems to function normally. Don't know what it did, if anything, beyond the dealer consult tool we were using.
Now, I just need to work out why my cruise control won't engage and get used to turning off VDC again, but at least I no longer have any warning lights on the dash.
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