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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 08:14 PM
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You guys really serious with all this? Trying to get input on info guys have bout rebuilding turbos/ upgrading and u two r back and forth about stupid ****. Back on topic.
My apologies. Just dont like mis informatio. To be allow on threads. The whole "wouldnt have this problem with a supercharged." Was so misinformed, had to correct it.
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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 08:46 PM
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My apologies. Just dont like mis informatio. To be allow on threads. The whole "wouldnt have this problem with a supercharged." Was so misinformed, had to correct it.
Let's just agree that a turbo setup puts more stress on the motor since it brings on the torque more suddenly as opposed to the linear power of a supercharger. Turbo has more potential to make more power as well as blow your motor. Superchargers are more efficient and cost effective. In the end there's no right or wrong choice. Each path has its own pros and cons

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One last thing tho. If turbo setups are so reliable and worth it why did all the major brands like momentum, gtm, Greddy all stop manufacturing their kits for the vq??? Hmmmm...

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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 03:12 AM
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Now look I'm not getting drawn into this but either way boosted if it's a blower or a turbo is stress on a motor. That's why u build them with parts meant for boosting. To handle the added stress. Along with other reasons. I wish I had pics of my old motor. I'll have to dig them out but i originally had a blower and I blew 7 holes in my block. I literally picked pieces of rods off the highway I was only around 480rwhp Maybe. I forget exactly. But the bottom line is yeah it puts stress on a motor but if u build a motor for that and a good tuner no reason to really sweat it. Just speaking from experience not to point the finger but if I was stock with a blower I would be more worried. Only cause of what I been through. It's all about what u like. For me when I went TT I was in love and never looked back since. Idk if u guys really want to know who's car is the quickest meet up and run. I'll flag u. Lol.
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Btw I'm doing my work. Me and another friend of mine have Been doing it and I'm sending the turbos out to I think boost lab was my final decision. If anyone else can refer another company that you can trust please comment and please lmk.
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One last thing tho. If turbo setups are so reliable and worth it why did all the major brands like momentum, gtm, Greddy all stop manufacturing their kits??? Hmmmm...
Because 9/10 of todays 350z owner cant afford it. When the kit cost more than the car, no one is going to buy it.

If turbonare so bad.... why is it that the majority of the powerhouse are using turbos. Tell me again 2k hp, are they using a SC or a tt set up? Tell me again, if turbos are so bad, why is it that factory cars like the evo comes turbo. Tell me again why PROFESSIONAL uses turbo?

In term of "turbo breaking engine" bs. Let me tell you this, if i punch you with 900psi at once are you gonna get knock out? Obviously... but if i punch you with 300psi constantly over and over are you gonna get knocks out? No because thats not enough force.

The reason "turbo blows engine" isnt because its sudden tq, its because the engine CANT HANDLE that tq. Put the SAME amount on the same engine whethwr SC or TT, itll blow. Regardless.
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Originally Posted by 35reilly
Btw I'm doing my work. Me and another friend of mine have Been doing it and I'm sending the turbos out to I think boost lab was my final decision. If anyone else can refer another company that you can trust please comment and please lmk.

Im curious as to why youre upgrading to a bigger size though. Are you planning more power?
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Originally Posted by SoCal_VQ
Let's just agree that a turbo setup puts more stress on the motor since it brings on the torque more suddenly as opposed to the linear power of a supercharger. Turbo has more potential to make more power as well as blow your motor. Superchargers are more efficient and cost effective.s
Your lack of knowledge is showing. Roots blowers can bring boost on and hold peak boost across the RPM's. Youre only thinking of centrifugal types like Vortech.

SC are not more efficient....they are TQ killers and parasitic drag. Turbos use exhaust gases = more efficient.

Sure there are some massive SC in drag racing but for the most part Turbos dominate the field. OEMS havve scrapped SC's for turbos. Mini cooper S comes to mind. Ecoboost = twin, evos = single turbo, VW = turbos, audi = turbos, diesel trucks = Turbos.


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One last thing tho. If turbo setups are so reliable and worth it why did all the major brands like momentum, gtm, Greddy all stop manufacturing their kits??? Hmmmm...
Momentum out of business
GTM out of business scammers
Greddy - makes turbo kits for other platforms. Suspended VQ market due to cracked manifolds and lets face it..we have a bunch of teens on $5 budgets that would rather risk popping the motor of their only car by using an ebay turbo kit.


Socal...your best bet is to just drop it.

Reily...sorry for the derail. Back to turbo talk.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 04:26 AM
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Your lack of knowledge is showing. Roots blowers can bring boost on and hold peak boost across the RPM's. Youre only thinking of centrifugal types like Vortech.

SC are not more efficient....they are TQ killers and parasitic drag. Turbos use exhaust gases = more efficient.

Sure there are some massive SC in drag racing but for the most part Turbos dominate the field. OEMS havve scrapped SC's for turbos. Mini cooper S comes to mind. Ecoboost = twin, evos = single turbo, VW = turbos, audi = turbos, diesel trucks = Turbos.




Momentum out of business
GTM out of business scammers
Greddy - makes turbo kits for other platforms. Suspended VQ market due to cracked manifolds and lets face it..we have a bunch of teens on $5 budgets that would rather risk popping the motor of their only car by using an ebay turbo kit.


Socal...your best bet is to just drop it.

Reily...sorry for the derail. Back to turbo talk.

To be fair, the zl1, shelbt gt500 and the hellcat still uses a supercharger.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 04:36 AM
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It was a rhetorical question about momentum gtm and Greddy. Proved my point. And while turbo is being used for Eco boosting lol Superchargers are being used for building monsters from the factory. I rest my case
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It was a rhetorical question about momentum gtm and Greddy. Proved my point. And while turbo is being used for Eco boosting lol Superchargers are being used for building monsters from the factory. I rest my case

Fastest production car is the bugatti veyron... tell me again how many supercharger is has???

You had no case to argue in the first place.
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It was a rhetorical question about momentum gtm and Greddy. Proved my point. And while turbo is being used for Eco boosting lol Superchargers are being used for building monsters from the factory. I rest my case
You have 3 supercharged cars....with what type blowers? Not the type you have been regurgitating information on. Watch as owners max out those SC that theyll start swapping to turbos.


Veyron - turbo
Koenigsegg - turbo
s7 - turbo
xj220 - turbo
f40gt - turbo
ecoboost (ford lineup) - turbo
vw- turbo
audi - turbo
mini cooper - turbo
bmw - turbo
ford gt- turbo
nissan gtr - turbo
hyundai - turbo

some of those are manufacturers that use turbos across their line...not just on 3 models from 3 different manufacturers.

Turbos = power and gas mileage. Because of CAFE laws, manufacturers are building smaller, more efficient powerplants.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
You have 3 supercharged cars....with what type blowers? Not the type you have been regurgitating information on. Watch as owners max out those SC that theyll start swapping to turbos.


Veyron - turbo
Koenigsegg - turbo
s7 - turbo
xj220 - turbo
f40gt - turbo
ecoboost (ford lineup) - turbo
vw- turbo
audi - turbo
mini cooper - turbo
bmw - turbo
ford gt- turbo
nissan gtr - turbo
hyundai - turbo

some of those are manufacturers that use turbos across their line...not just on 3 models from 3 different manufacturers.

Turbos = power and gas mileage. Because of CAFE laws, manufacturers are building smaller, more efficient powerplants.
Lets not forget the lambo and ferrari line up.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 06:36 AM
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Wayyyyyy off topic. Everyone get it all out ???? Lmao. Ok so back to turbo talk. So do to my lack of knowledge I talked to boost lab about the 18g and 20g wheel. As of Rt now it seems yeah maybe it is the Rt thing to do is to stay 18g do to the upgraded 18g billet wheel. I been being told that I would see the difference mid range and that is pretty much what I'm looking for. The bottom end is Rt there to begin with. Only thing that is holding me back is the fact that I will be maxed out at bout 700rwhp. No? Anyway I thought about it and I was thinking well what if I want to go higher. Then I say to myself for what I do with my car mid 6s I think is fine for a street car. Idk don't really see the need for that on the street. Then again I always want more once I have something. Lol
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Honestly as. Easy as this might sound I was looking for a little lag. My boost is instant and it pretty uncontrollable 1st through 2nd. I mean it literally is sacking the rev limiter soon as I get into it along with blowing the tires away. So yeah was looking for a little lag and not only would 20g leave me room to grow in the pwr range it give me that little buffer to allow boost to come in a little later. But then again I'm being told I really will not see the difference in that area between the 18 and 20g
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 35reilly
Honestly as. Easy as this might sound I was looking for a little lag. My boost is instant and it pretty uncontrollable 1st through 2nd. I mean it literally is sacking the rev limiter soon as I get into it along with blowing the tires away. So yeah was looking for a little lag and not only would 20g leave me room to grow in the pwr range it give me that little buffer to allow boost to come in a little later. But then again I'm being told I really will not see the difference in that area between the 18 and 20g
If youre after lag time, have you consider switching to a single large turbo build? Thats the only really effective way i see if increasing lag time.

My 6262 spools at about 2.5k, doesnt kick in until around 4k and thats perfect for what i want. I heard the 6266 kicks in even later than that.

The perk of dual turbo is that there is almost no lag haha. So its pretty much a contradiction to run dual and want lag haha
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Yeah I know. I want best of both worlds just gotta have acceptance cause I'm not dumping anymore money then I have to. I'll find peace somewhere down the line. Lmao. I think ��
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Yeah I know. I want best of both worlds just gotta have acceptance cause I'm not dumping anymore money then I have to. I'll find peace somewhere down the line. Lmao. I think ��
You'll find peace of mind with a supercharger setup.
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Originally Posted by 35reilly
Honestly as. Easy as this might sound I was looking for a little lag. My boost is instant and it pretty uncontrollable 1st through 2nd. I mean it literally is sacking the rev limiter soon as I get into it along with blowing the tires away. So yeah was looking for a little lag and not only would 20g leave me room to grow in the pwr range it give me that little buffer to allow boost to come in a little later. But then again I'm being told I really will not see the difference in that area between the 18 and 20g
Exactly! 1st and 2nd are basically useless with all that sudden torque and you'll most likely have some sort of catastrophic engine failure. SC FTMFW
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Originally Posted by 35reilly
Yeah I know. I want best of both worlds just gotta have acceptance cause I'm not dumping anymore money then I have to. I'll find peace somewhere down the line. Lmao. I think ��

The best way to prolong turbo boost, in my experience, is placement of the right foot. Haha
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