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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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After looking at some of these prices I realized they were high for the turbo kits. Way to much. Just out of curiosity how many people would be interested in a turbo kit that would cost around $4k?? I'm sure there are companies out there that would make them. But is it really worth paying $11k with installation for everything just to have a brand name???
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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You can get into the Greddy kit installed, WAY less than $11k.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by PhoenixINX
You can get into the Greddy kit installed, WAY less than $11k.
But still, complete kits for around $4k. Would anybody purchase them even if they weren't brand name but top quality and say even more potential then the GReddy kit.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by nonturbo
But still, complete kits for around $4k. Would anybody purchase them even if they weren't brand name but top quality and say even more potential then the GReddy kit.
Top quality and more potential then the greddy kit, will not happen for $4,000. You might be able to get a functioning turbo kit for $4,000 (assuming twin turbo) but the fabrication alone and man hours that take to custom fabricate this is near $1-2,000. If you can find a shop to fab you something up try finding used parts, used t28s, used intercooler, etc. And then you have to take into consideration your goals for the kit, do you want it to produce a fair amount of power like the greddy, pe, or even our own. If so then you'll need upgraded injectors and fuel management (+$1,000).
Or you can take the alternative route and supercharge it for a fair amount less.

A good place to start looking for custom turbo systems would be by asking some of the board members (Skidazzle) ask how much he paid in just labor alone to have it fabbed up.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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I think your quote of $11,000 is abit off the mark. Most TT kits are MSRP around $6500 with Intercooler, with install, gauges, etc you are around $8500. Not bad for 125+ HP. Usually you can figure $100 per 1 HP.
Go see what Lingenfelter or Extreme are charging the Vette guys for Twin Turbos.
It cost money for these developers to design and build these kits, do you expect them to do it for free?
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Non Turbo,
I am also curious about what you have in mind. How do YOU think a well put together, intercooled twin turbo kit could be put together for around $4,000.00? Do you mean with second hand parts, or new? I am currently looking into building my own, ( just for me, not as a business) and using new parts, I reckon those alone are going to cost me over $6,000.00. That's without any value on my own fabrication time. I also thought I knew how to buy pretty well, ( I am in the automotive industry, but on the OE vendor side, not aftermarket), however, you have now got me doubting my own purchasing ability !!

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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Turbo Ed
Non Turbo,
I am also curious about what you have in mind. How do YOU think a well put together, intercooled twin turbo kit could be put together for around $4,000.00? Do you mean with second hand parts, or new? I am currently looking into building my own, ( just for me, not as a business) and using new parts, I reckon those alone are going to cost me over $6,000.00. That's without any value on my own fabrication time. I also thought I knew how to buy pretty well, ( I am in the automotive industry, but on the OE vendor side, not aftermarket), however, you have now got me doubting my own purchasing ability !!

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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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sign hanging at my work:
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by jawbone
sign hanging at my work:
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If any of you know about Naturally Aspirated Toyota Supras. I am also the one that sells a turbo kit for under $1.7k and is capable of 700hp. It is a base kit and a complete kit with everything needed for $4k. I could easily do the same with the 350Z. If enough of you are interested. I want to become a proud sponsor of this forum and put this kits into production. However I don't want to spend money sponsoring if there is not a clientelle for this. So in all honesty if I could make a kit that was cheap, fast, and quality for around $4k. Would any of you be interested? If enough of you say yes. I want to go ahead and sponsor the forum and start advertising the kit and put this baby into production.

It doesn't cost $6-7k to make a kit. The difference is GReddy has thousands of workers to pay.

Moderators I apolgoize if you feel this is advertising. I am just gaining interest and if there is enough interest I am guranteeing I will sponsor this forum. I will also do my best to help the 350Z community. If this thread needs to be locked up then do that. But all your doing is cutting hopes and dreams of 350Z customers with dreams and a tight budget.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Non turbo, before they lock the thread on you, do you think you could just get an answer in to the questions I asked?

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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by nonturbo
If any of you know about Naturally Aspirated Toyota Supras. I am also the one that sells a turbo kit for under $1.7k and is capable of 700hp. It is a base kit and a complete kit with everything needed for $4k. I could easily do the same with the 350Z. If enough of you are interested. I want to become a proud sponsor of this forum and put this kits into production. However I don't want to spend money sponsoring if there is not a clientelle for this. So in all honesty if I could make a kit that was cheap, fast, and quality for around $4k. Would any of you be interested? If enough of you say yes. I want to go ahead and sponsor the forum and start advertising the kit and put this baby into production.

It doesn't cost $6-7k to make a kit. The difference is GReddy has thousands of workers to pay.

Moderators I apolgoize if you feel this is advertising. I am just gaining interest and if there is enough interest I am guranteeing I will sponsor this forum. I will also do my best to help the 350Z community. If this thread needs to be locked up then do that. But all your doing is cutting hopes and dreams of 350Z customers with dreams and a tight budget.
Do you have links or pix of the Turbo kit you make for the Supra NA motor? What does that kit make on a Supra NA bolt on? You claimed it have 700 whp potential. Anything have potential if you put money into it. What I want to know is, how much WHP does your $1.7K kit make for the NA supra motor just by bolting it on with out Tunning.

The Greddy kit could be a bolt on kit with out tunning. It come with FMU (e-manage), Injectors, 6 440CC injectors, Twin 18G Mitsu Turbos, pipes, Twin manifolds, and 3 row intercooler. This is what I call a complete turbo kit. What would you use as far as parts to make this kit undre $4,000? Of course with out sacrificing performance quality?
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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under 4k I doubt you would be making any profit. Remember this car needs two of each considering its a v engine. Supra only need one. I think you would lose your pants on this one. But hey it would be great if you could.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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Spazpilot, I agree!! Which is why I hope he answers my questions, before they lock the thread!!
2x turbos
2x dump tubes
2x manifolds
2x sets oil/water lines (turbos)
2x sets air ducting in/out of turbos
1x Intercooler
1x fuel supply system
1x engine management

That's as far as I have got, scoping out my personal project and I am not sure I have thought of everything, as yet! I would REALLY like to know how to buy all that for non turbo's price! I hope he answers before the thread is locked!!

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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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hey are you the 15 year old kid that owns nonturbo.com that sells the dave h turbo kit for the na supra?
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Jeff- For under $1.7 they receive the turbo, manifold, dump-pipe, downpipe, and wastegate. Alot more is needed for going turbo, this is just a base.

With around mid $4.5k. I have seen customers pushing 500whp from the complete kit I offer. Which in my opinion isn't to bad.

With around the price of $4k, remember this price is just an estimate however I won't even bother if it goes above $5k. I will be offering a kit that will work with stock compression. I will most likely also offer an upgraded kit with a custom headgasket of some sort and investigate further what is needed to bring out 500hp #'s out of the 350z/g35. Then I can maybe put together a package for people wanting more power.

I have plenty of links and pictures for the turbo kit I sell. But like I stated, I am not here to advertise. I am just here to see if there is a potential for a cheap, reliable, and potential turbo kit for the 350Z. If there is I will pay whatever is needed to advertise and post links and pictures. Until then I'd rather wait until I support this forum.

Turbo Ed- Feel free to PM me and I can give you my email and I can discuss how the turbo kits can be made for cheaper. My post will be a little to long.

Right now there are no plans for this kit and if there is the demand we will start working for something. Maybe even try something new and see if a single turbo kit could be done, would be much cheaper. Just ideas for now.
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 06:54 AM
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no single turbo kit for the 35's (or z)??

jus curious as to why its a twin config. only avail.....
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I'm interested in how you're going to make this happen. Could you shoot me a PM? Thanks
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As someone who has fabricated a custom kit for the Z, I know exactly how much work is involved. I very seriously doubt you can build a kit and sell it for $4k. I'd look into the car a little closer before you get too serious about this. This isn't an N/A supra! You will quickly find that there is nowhere near as much room on the Z as there is on a supra and that there's alot more parts involved. Good luck with it.
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by nonturbo
After looking at some of these prices I realized they were high for the turbo kits. Way to much. Just out of curiosity how many people would be interested in a turbo kit that would cost around $4k??
at least one.

I'm sure there are companies out there that would make them. But is it really worth paying $11k with installation for everything just to have a brand name??? [/QUOTE]

no way

Good luck. You may want to descibe your product as "less expensive" or "value priced" ... rather than "cheap". Too much negative connotation with the latter.
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by esemes
no single turbo kit for the 35's (or z)??

jus curious as to why its a twin config. only avail.....
there are single turboes out there! just not kits. a shop i frequent here in town recently finished a custom single t56 kit on a g35!
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