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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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I believe a cop cannot "force" you to pop your hood unless he has probable cause to conduct a search, under the 4th Amendment to the United States Constitution. Arguably, a "loud exhaust" might constitute probable cause, but I can see an argument that it is not. All a loud exhaust shows is that you have a different exhaust system than stock. So the cop can investigate your exhaust. You can't see an exhaust system from under the hood, you have to get underneath the car to see it. So there is no legitimate purpose for a search under the hood due to a loud exhaust.

I am not a legal expert in this area, and perhaps there is some statutory right the cops have to look under your hood that I don't know about. If so, that law is probably unconstitutional, but I doubt if anyone has ever tested it in the Supreme Court or District Courts of Appeals.

On the other hand, you don't want to pizz off an angry cop, so play it by ear. LOL
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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The right to privacy when driving an automobile has been well tested in the courts...and the verdict is.......we have no privacy!

Case law has given law enforcement broad lattitude when it comes to searching automobiles. The slimmest of probable cause is sufficient for a cop to have legal justification to search your car..this includes asking you to pop your hood.

Of course, you have the right to deny a consentual service of your car. If the officer proceeds with the search and finds something, you'd have to fight it in court, and the court would have to find the search "unreasonable". Highly unlikely.

Moral of the story....try to be discrete when driving. Avoid loud exhuast, and anything else that would attract attention to your car. And if asked to search your car...coporation is probably your best bet. Disclaimer: I am not an attorney..I just play one on TV.
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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How does the PE TT kit stack up against the Greddy TT anyways?
I've heard that the Greddy kit is easier to install than the PE kit. Also, from what I've seen, numbers wise, the PE kit makes a little more power. I am sure you can get the Greddy kit to 400rwhp, but with little boost, the PE kit can make over 400rwhp. I'm nowhere near an expert, this is just what I have seen, read and heard. My .02
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by gq_model_626

Case law has given law enforcement broad lattitude when it comes to searching automobiles. The slimmest of probable cause is sufficient for a cop to have legal justification to search your car..this includes asking you to pop your hood.
No rights is right. A cop can conduct a search without a warrant legally if he has "probable cause" from anything in plain view. So if you have a new exhaust, gauges, anything, he's got the right to search your car.


Anyway as far as the Greddy kit goes i thought it was "off road use only" since the big metal bar upfront is removed? doesn't that defeat the point of CARB certification. unless of course it's not only for "off road use" in which CARB certification would be great for your Cali people, but again pointless in FL where anything flows but yea so is the kit fully street legal?
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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Here is the web address for PE USA
http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/
Greddy has nothing on the Power Enterprise kit Such as BB turbos and ARC intercooler . Power-Enterprise only uses the best of the best for thier kits.I have been doing alot of research the past few months on whats available for F/I .And have decided to go with the PE kit for my Z and it will be a daily driver.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by TruBluZ
I've heard that the Greddy kit is easier to install than the PE kit. Also, from what I've seen, numbers wise, the PE kit makes a little more power. I am sure you can get the Greddy kit to 400rwhp, but with little boost, the PE kit can make over 400rwhp. I'm nowhere near an expert, this is just what I have seen, read and heard. My .02

Please let me know were you have seen a true dyno on the PE kit. It is not making better numbers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have yet to see a PE kit lay down the numbers I have and can almost bet that it can't lay down the numbers the SGP car did because you won't even be able to boost to 17psi with those turbo. The PE kit will make a great 400rwhp car but if you are looking for more I would seriously consider greddy, JWT, or APS. As for install The PE kit is much much easier. No wirer cutting or dealing with external wastegates.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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LOL^^^

The PE dyno conspiracy theory is alive and well!

The PE is significantly easier to install...you could do it in a day or two. Plug and play injectors, no cutting up the ECU, and most, if not all of the stock resevoirs dont have to be relocated.


Oh, and CARB certification applys to emission controls and emission output only. They dont give a damn if you removed some safety features...it's not their department, and they wont check it. I sound like a "pass the buck" beaurocrat......gotta love big government!


In terms of power, I think both kits are comparable up to about 450whp...then the Greddy pulls ahead, becuase the PE turbos will begin exceeding their peak CFM and operating efficiency. The Greddy turbos are good for 20psi without any problems, and you'll be flowing significantly more CFM of air than the PE's at the same boost level.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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When is enough, enough?

http://store.yahoo.com/sgpracing-store/ab03ni35.html
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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I will have a dyno of my car soon. Maybe as soon as next week. Hopefully Cheston and I will go at the same time and have a double whammy for you guys.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 04:54 AM
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It just might result in a surge of sales
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I have wondered since March why this hasn't been done.
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