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Old 06-26-2004 | 06:04 PM
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All I can say is.............WOW!


Will $20,000 get that done?!
Old 06-26-2004 | 06:06 PM
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Please get me a link to your website!
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Found the link:
http://store.yahoo.com/sgpracing-store/ab03ni35.html


Engine & Transmission Mods:
- SGP Racing Turbo Pistons
- SGP Racing Forged Rods
- SGP Racing Titanium Retainers
- SGP Racing Ported and Polished Heads
- SGP Racing Head and Main Stud Kit
- TOMEI 264 Cams
- Greddy TDO5-18G Twin Turbo Kit
- Greddy 3 - Row Front Mount Intercooler
- SGP Racing Oil Cooler
- RC 750cc Injectors
- WALBRO 255LPH Fuel Pump
- SGP Racing Dual Entry/Exit Fuel Rails
- Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator
- SGP Spec Technosquare ECU Flash
- BLITZ Dual Drive BOV
- HELIX Cat Pipes
- 3" HKS Carbon TI Single Exhaust

Drivetrain:
- OS Giken Dual Disc Clutch

Suspension:
- TEIN Flex kit Dampers
- TEIN EDFC Controller
Old 06-26-2004 | 06:45 PM
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Thanks.
Old 06-26-2004 | 06:54 PM
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Wow....my heart has just restarted...amazing. There is lots more potential in there...can't wait!

I am also interested in seeing the power band on the dyno, to determine if 8.5:1 is the compression ratio I should eventually go with. Hopefully, there is still plenty of torque in the 2500-3500rpm range. wow!!!

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Old 06-26-2004 | 08:19 PM
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So those Tomei cams work well in that application? Interesting...
Old 06-26-2004 | 09:06 PM
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HOLEEEEEEE FLUGGINNN SHEEEEEEEEEEEET.

Very very nice, kudos. KUDOS TO KUDOS!! HEHEH.

Hey man, plaster that baby all over magazines.

I would if I were you!! =)
Old 06-26-2004 | 09:16 PM
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I need to cash in some frequent flyer miles and come visit you man! I am Egyptian...they should let me in without a VISA! LOL
Old 06-27-2004 | 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by dank311
Kudos -

Congrats on the numbers! VERY IMPRESSIVE! I wanna see the dyno graphs!
How much more can you up the boost with your built motor?
The only things that you have in the motor are rods and pistons? Do you have an aftermarket headgasket?

How much did a setup like this cost?(TT, engine build, Labor)

I cant wait to hear more info on your setup! Is there anyway you can take some videos of your car?
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Thanks John, i'll let everyone know as soon as Mark scans the dyno. This is probably the most boost i want to push on pump gas considering that the car was intentially built as a daily driver, i'm not too excited about running race gas although i realize the potential.

I am happy with these numbers, Mark is still trying to squeeze some hp out of the car from thing s like a plenum and exhaust, these 2 could bring me a little closer to 600rwhp wich would be ideal without turning up the boost for reliability.

We aren't using aftermarket headgaskets they are stock.

VIDEOS......well i'll trying to arrange a race with a Lamborghini Murcialago by the time the car arrives, i'll make sure thats on video.
Old 06-27-2004 | 02:15 AM
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Cheers for the complements guys
Old 06-27-2004 | 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by gq_626
I need to cash in some frequent flyer miles and come visit you man! I am Egyptian...they should let me in without a VISA! LOL
LOL, ya i don't think you need a visa, you should come for Moto GP man, its first debut here in Qatar, October. Should be cool.
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The dyno is on the website that there is a link to a few posts back.

All I can say is....WOW....the powerband is amazing. It's not peaky at all....VERY VERY linear. This car must pull like a raped ape.
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Nice at 17psi you should be right in the heart of the Tdo5-18g turbos effeciency however depending on how far you want to go there is alot of room left in those turbos!!!

Keep us updated !!! Much props to you and your car very impressive!!!
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very impressive!!!
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Yeah, looks like some work is needed on the fuel curve. Although its hard to get a totally stable A/F with the eManage, I'm sure they'll be fine tuning this shortly. They need to get rid of those 12:1 spikes, and keep it at 11.5:1....just to be safe.

Great power and torque curve. Looks like the torque at 3000rpm is the same as my car at 9psi.....so driveablity and low-end pull .should feel excellent. ALso appears that power peaked at 4500rpm, then taper off, then maybe increased a tad towards redline. If they can peak at 4500rpm, then this car could easily have over 600whp once they complete the fine tuning.

When is the car being tranported back to your country?


Nice!
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Awsome, mashalla!!
Just let me know when it comes to Doha, I might pay u a visit
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Originally posted by gq_626
Yeah, looks like some work is needed on the fuel curve. Although its hard to get a totally stable A/F with the eManage, I'm sure they'll be fine tuning this shortly. They need to get rid of those 12:1 spikes, and keep it at 11.5:1....just to be safe.

Great power and torque curve. Looks like the torque at 3000rpm is the same as my car at 9psi.....so driveablity and low-end pull .should feel excellent. ALso appears that power peaked at 4500rpm, then taper off, then maybe increased a tad towards redline. If they can peak at 4500rpm, then this car could easily have over 600whp once they complete the fine tuning.

When is the car being tranported back to your country?


Nice!
That peak you're seeing @ 4500rpm is the torque peak....the hp does seem to peak until around 6500...

They cross @ 5250 as always...

That torque curve is as flat as kansas though....simply amazing on a lowered compression turbocharged car.
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Originally posted by gq_626
Yeah, looks like some work is needed on the fuel curve. Although its hard to get a totally stable A/F with the eManage, I'm sure they'll be fine tuning this shortly. They need to get rid of those 12:1 spikes, and keep it at 11.5:1....just to be safe.

Great power and torque curve. Looks like the torque at 3000rpm is the same as my car at 9psi.....so driveablity and low-end pull .should feel excellent. ALso appears that power peaked at 4500rpm, then taper off, then maybe increased a tad towards redline. If they can peak at 4500rpm, then this car could easily have over 600whp once they complete the fine tuning.

When is the car being tranported back to your country?


Nice!

We will be fine tuning the car after we install a different exhaust, really needs a true dual. The waves in the A/F are actually fluctuations in the boost controller from 15 - 17 psi. The boost controller on the dyno was not to stable, we are working with it now in manual and seems alot better. Other than that @ a steady boost level, the A/F was a perfect 11.5:1 instead of jumping between 11.8:1 & 11.5:1. As soon as we went over 14PSI the controller would bounce from 15-17 PSI. I think the wastegate routing has some to do with this + the stock y-pipe configuration. We will see IF Kudos lets us turn it up. With a Plenum and Exhaust, he should see 600+ on both ends with 93 pump...His 97 @ home will be even better. I am glad your happy Kudos, there is still quite a bit more left on pump but, if you are happy there just let me know....

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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
That peak you're seeing @ 4500rpm is the torque peak....the hp does seem to peak until around 6500...

They cross @ 5250 as always...

That torque curve is as flat as kansas though....simply amazing on a lowered compression turbocharged car.
Holy crap...I need new glasses....I totally crossed the lines at 5200rpm...ops..sorry folks!

cheers!


SGP...thanks for chiming in! Have you given some thought to switching the wastegate spring to somthing heavier. The factory springs are set at about 5.5psi. Maybe you could throw in a 10psi spring or something...then increase further with the boost controller. This would minimize the work the Boost Controller has to do. Good luck...and please keep us posted...this is terrific!

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