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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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With about 5 posts about peoples fuel lines getting messed up due to the vortech kit, im thinkin that maby its not for me. What is the reason this is happening? People are saying its because the hose that vortech supplys is sh*t, so would i just have to give my installed Extreme Automotive diffrent hoses to use? If so what hoses are recomended and how much do they cost... Any imput would be extremely helpfull... Thanks,
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 02:35 AM
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If your worried about fuel line problems then I would suggest that you go with braided lines and aluminum fittings which is what I am probably going to do. I suspect that my problem was that I didn't have the fuel line connected completely. One thing that I didn't use in the Vortech kit was the Stepless crimp clamps that came with the kit. I used regular worm drive clamps.
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 02:39 AM
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how much and where would one get those braided lines? is it any more difficult to install? Also do u think a installer that has done this many time 10+ would have any problems with the fuel lines or is it just depending on the part that is sent from vortech..

BTW: Thanks teh215 for ur quick response at 3:39am
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 02:46 AM
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Personally I have only ever bought braided lines and aeroquip fittings from either SummitRacing.com or Jegs.com. They are easy to work with. The worst problems that I have ever had with them is getting a clean cut with the braided line where the braid doesn't fray. (Those little wires at like needles so be careful) The two main reasons that I didn't use the Vortech clamps is that 1) I simply do not think that they could hold. 2) I was not going to spend the money for the tool needed to install a clamp I didn't think would hold. Keep in mind that when the second pump comes on I have seen fuel pressures jump to almost 70 psi in a few cases so there is a good bit of pressure under there.
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 03:06 AM
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so would u say this is an installer issue or is this just a faulty piece by vortech? im also wondering if many people have had this problem...
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 03:34 AM
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5 people have supposedly had this problem??

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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 03:35 AM
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maby not 5 but there are a few on the front page of the f/i section
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 04:30 AM
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Originally posted by g35twinturbo
so would u say this is an installer issue or is this just a faulty piece by vortech? im also wondering if many people have had this problem...
Since I installed it myself it is possible that I did not have them connected completely but I doubt that is the case. Since I had a little bit of a problem with this connection I was certain to closely examine the entire connection before moving on to the next step. IIRC correctly is seemed line the male connectors were about 1/16" too long and were bottoming out in the female fitting.
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 04:46 AM
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i think teh215 just didnt know what he was doing, , nah, when i installed mine, i just pushed the two connectors together as hard as i could until i popped a blood vessel, i dont think its going to come loose, BUT just in case im gonna look and make sure its ok. but i wouldnt let this little problem cause you any doubts, come on, this is nothing.
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 05:21 AM
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Ditto on the amount of effort it took tig488 to get these connected. Having had the fuel lines pop apart, it kinda makes me suspect that amount of force that the connection itself is exerting on the spring clips combined with the fuel pressure may be too much for the clips to handle.
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Old Jul 7, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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I am one of the other who had this problem and during our install we also replaced the crimp clamps with regular screw style clamps, so we could be seeing a trend. Anyone else have the issue with a fuel line coming off one of the Vortech fuel splitters? If so, did you use the crimp clamps that came with the kit or something else?

Also, for those who haven't seen it, the Vortech fuel fittings that split the line are different from normal splitters. One lead has the normal "ribbed" tube that "grabs" the hose if it tries to back off the splitter. The other two leads are smooth, but have a rubber piece sleeved over the tube.

On my car, the two hoses over these rubber fittings are the ones that failed. The "ribbed" fitting wouldn't budge. Even after I had removed the fitting (by cutting the third hose) and removing the clamp, the hose on the ribbed fitting was extremely hard to pull off.

If we feel certain it is not the FMU, I'm going to buy two new brass fittings with ribs on all three leads and replace the Vortech ones.

Watch teh215s original post to see how this works for me.

g35twinturbo ... don't let this dissuade you from purchasing this kit. This is a minor problem compared to what could possibly go wrong with a SC or TT install and, knowing it upfront from our experiences, you can take measures to avoid this ever happening on your car. I'd be much more worried about tuning issues, air-fuel concerns, etcs.
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