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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by RegalZ
m3ppowerr, next time take the car to Z1Motorsports www.300zx.com in Temple, GA. I know they recently fixed the same problem for a customer and then dyno tuned him to 410rwhp / 397rwtq. They used to use Dynolab also but they have their own dyno now.

Good luck!
That was me that they fixed
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by gq_626
Gurgen, this A/F chart is not typical at all. Every out of the box, every Greddy kit with stock boost (5.5psi) and tuning are running safely rich across the board at under 11.5:1. The reason this chart looks strange, as M3 mentioned, is becuase he turned up the boost, but hasnt adding fuel system or tuning to the mix...so of course..it will look kinda yucky.
Sharif... Of course not every kit is like this... but it is obvious that the lack of supplied large capacity fuel pump (and of course FPR) provides for those gradual leanouts at higher rpms, as the stock FP is not sufficient (along with the injectors reaching the maximum duration). Again, I am not dissing the kit, it can be made every bit as stable as PE, or, in more universal terms, it can be made/tuned to achieving a beautiful and stable A/F curve. What I am saying is that this will take more parts and more money (and IMO much more than $300), which takes away from Greddy's greatest advantage, its lower cost. Of course there is that whole myriad of things that PE has and Greddy doesn't and vice versa (that were discussed ad nauseum) which should also be considered.

I have, however, personally seen few ideal (or near-ideal) a/f ratios out of Greddy, but I maybe wrong.

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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by m3powerrr
Both of you guys are completely correct.

I repeat for those of you considering the purchase of the kit:

The kit is not the problem. All bolt ons are really not bolt ons. If they were, there wouldn't be performance/mechanic shops. I have no problem making adjustments. The problem I had was the after service/support. It's so frustrating that a problem that I had was solved in less than a minute if I had some support. I tell you, I had absolutely no support whatsoever. All they did was deny the problem.

If you want good power with potential to do more power, I hate to promote it but, it's a good choice. Thanks to boards like this, people can learn from others experiences. Just don't count on Greddy and remember, shave off the "Greddy" emblems. Hey, if you modify the kit, cna't you call it your own custom kit that you made using Greddy parts????

NOt true anymore..... This was a thing of the past. I visited PE USA last week (last Friday) and met the PE president (visiting from Japan) Mr. Tominaga. BTW, what a nice guy. They have made huge headway in U.S. supply and delivery; the "1 kit for the US for every 5 made for JPN" is a thing of hte past (from what I am told), and the situation has actually been reversed if anything. I myself saw about 10-12 PE kits for the 350z and about 6-8 for the G35, which leads me to belief that they are being truthful about this. The supply problems are simply no longer present. Adam of PE USA was very helpful throughout the whole process (as I was awaiting my kit), so feel free to talk to him about the kit in detail.
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 12:51 AM
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I agree that when you spend a substancial ammount of money on a product, it should be quality...There is no doubt GReddy is one of the best aftermarket performance producers, but there will always be problems in the initial product...Forums are great to find out these glitches to avoid problems...I think it is mainly because of these problems that people are scared to death to do any work themselves...In this post alone you had strong evdience ("They tell us it would take 2 - 3 days. A week goes by. Not a word form the shop. We drove by and the car is parked outside where we had left it. We called them to let us know our concern and they tell us they had assessed the problem and it was going to cost us $3500. We're like **** you and picked up the car.")...By the way, what did they say the $3500 was for?...Anyway, I think people charging outrageous prices to do halfway reputable work is how a lot of these performance shops operate, sadly...That is not meant to insult those who own or have had good experiences with local shops in the past, we need more of them...I think the only right thing for GReddy to do is to maybe recall their faulty products and/or at least fix their design flaws, to save people bogus $3500 charges for a problem directly related to their product's design flaw...Power Enterprise makes an awesome alternative TT kit...GReddy needs to step up to the competition, and win back their fan-base, god knows how long the community has been waiting for GReddy's TT kit to hit...After such a negative experience with a product, it's hard to have faith in that company...Don't give up though, your problem is solved and you have helped your fellow 350Z/G35C community to avoid this issue...What was the $3500 charge they assumed to be the problem?
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 02:10 AM
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i'd love to know what kind of insurance that is also. THnaks GQ
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff@Evolution

You suppose to use studs supplied with the kit to mount the wastegate to the manifold on the passenger side. Studs + Nuts = no more problem.
m3powerrr, like Jeff said, you are suppose to use Studs with nuts in those holes. (wastegates to manifold)
So it sounds like the bottoming out problem you had is because you used a bolt, where you were suppose to use a stud...
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by ACP
m3powerrr, like Jeff said, you are suppose to use Studs with nuts in those holes. (wastegates to manifold)
So it sounds like the bottoming out problem you had is because you used a bolt, where you were suppose to use a stud...
Dude, I really don't want to go off on you and please don't take this the wrong way. This is an issue that we really looked at very very hard. We followed the instructions carefully. This is a picture of the Tial wastegate. Those are the exact hardware that was supplied with the kit. I've installed Tial wastegates in the past. The hardwares are identical. Maybe they changed something since we bought it. As far as I know, we were one of the first to put it on. Here is a pic.

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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by m3powerrr
Dude, I really don't want to go off on you and please don't take this the wrong way.
Why would you go off on me ?
Just having a discussion and where the problem you had lied...
Be good to show if it was an error in the kit/design
or in that of the installer, to help anyone else that reads this thread.

As I meantion, our kit was from the 1st batch, as we were one of very 1st to install the kit as well (check my posts, you will see we started in Dec)

And I have the direction that came with the kit at that time, and looking under "Exhaust Manifold Installation" and "Turbocharger Installation" There is 4 different photos showing you studs installed in the exhaust manifold, where the wastegate bolts up to.
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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They said the 3500 was to fix 2 scorched wires(o2 sensor), and to fix leak. They tried to express the mess my car was in and that it needed professional work. we looked at the wires and they were ok, just needed to be redone(took us 10 minutes.) exhaust leak, after finding out the problem, took us 2 hours. Does that sound like 40 hours of labor. I think that is what they charge for a complete install. They insulted our knowledge of the problem.

Please keep in mind that we are not bashing them because that was our experience with them. I am pretty sure they have many satisfied customers.






Originally posted by xxv0odo0xx
I agree that when you spend a substancial ammount of money on a product, it should be quality...There is no doubt GReddy is one of the best aftermarket performance producers, but there will always be problems in the initial product...Forums are great to find out these glitches to avoid problems...I think it is mainly because of these problems that people are scared to death to do any work themselves...In this post alone you had strong evdience ("They tell us it would take 2 - 3 days. A week goes by. Not a word form the shop. We drove by and the car is parked outside where we had left it. We called them to let us know our concern and they tell us they had assessed the problem and it was going to cost us $3500. We're like **** you and picked up the car.")...By the way, what did they say the $3500 was for?...Anyway, I think people charging outrageous prices to do halfway reputable work is how a lot of these performance shops operate, sadly...That is not meant to insult those who own or have had good experiences with local shops in the past, we need more of them...I think the only right thing for GReddy to do is to maybe recall their faulty products and/or at least fix their design flaws, to save people bogus $3500 charges for a problem directly related to their product's design flaw...Power Enterprise makes an awesome alternative TT kit...GReddy needs to step up to the competition, and win back their fan-base, god knows how long the community has been waiting for GReddy's TT kit to hit...After such a negative experience with a product, it's hard to have faith in that company...Don't give up though, your problem is solved and you have helped your fellow 350Z/G35C community to avoid this issue...What was the $3500 charge they assumed to be the problem?
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by m3powerrr
They said the 3500 was to fix 2 scorched wires(o2 sensor), and to fix leak. They tried to express the mess my car was in and that it needed professional work. we looked at the wires and they were ok, just needed to be redone(took us 10 minutes.) exhaust leak, after finding out the problem, took us 2 hours. Does that sound like 40 hours of labor. I think that is what they charge for a complete install. They insulted our knowledge of the problem.

Please keep in mind that we are not bashing them because that was our experience with them. I am pretty sure they have many satisfied customers.
Glad to hear that the problem was easily fixed...And as far as the hours go, that is almost insulting...A complete slap in the face to a novice who completed the work in a fourth of the time...sorry to hear about your bad experience, and thank you for helping out future TT onwers...Maybe they'll look at this and consider PE to be the better of the two...I haven't heard of any problems with that kit so far...
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by ACP
Why would you go off on me ?
Just having a discussion and where the problem you had lied...
Be good to show if it was an error in the kit/design
or in that of the installer, to help anyone else that reads this thread.

As I meantion, our kit was from the 1st batch, as we were one of very 1st to install the kit as well (check my posts, you will see we started in Dec)

And I have the direction that came with the kit at that time, and looking under "Exhaust Manifold Installation" and "Turbocharger Installation" There is 4 different photos showing you studs installed in the exhaust manifold, where the wastegate bolts up to.
No problem. I don't know why our instructions would be different but our kit came with those exact bolts you see in the picture.

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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by m3powerrr
No problem. I don't know why our instructions would be different but our kit came with those exact bolts you see in the picture.

Weird
But the manifold also came with the studs
And it showed in the pictures how they were to be installed
So you needed to follow that...
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I like the way people say that the PE kit is ready out of the box, but in reality you can only boost no higher then 4psi and there is no timing address with there kit. the TS ecu upgrade is an additional charge on top of the PE kit. The boost controller is also an additional charge. So in the end weather you buy greddy or PE your going to spend more money. Also don't plan on boosting more then 12psi pn those little 1420's. As for fit on the greddy kit, had no fitment issues just poor install instruction. If all studs and bolts are put in the right spot there are no issues. Instructions tell you to use studs on the wastegates.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by spazpilot
I like the way people say that the PE kit is ready out of the box, but in reality you can only boost no higher then 4psi and there is no timing address with there kit. the TS ecu upgrade is an additional charge on top of the PE kit. The boost controller is also an additional charge. So in the end weather you buy greddy or PE your going to spend more money. Also don't plan on boosting more then 12psi pn those little 1420's. As for fit on the greddy kit, had no fitment issues just poor install instruction. If all studs and bolts are put in the right spot there are no issues. Instructions tell you to use studs on the wastegates.
Exactly. Well put.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by spazpilot
I like the way people say that the PE kit is ready out of the box, but in reality you can only boost no higher then 4psi and there is no timing address with there kit. the TS ecu upgrade is an additional charge on top of the PE kit. The boost controller is also an additional charge. So in the end weather you buy greddy or PE your going to spend more money. Also don't plan on boosting more then 12psi pn those little 1420's. As for fit on the greddy kit, had no fitment issues just poor install instruction. If all studs and bolts are put in the right spot there are no issues. Instructions tell you to use studs on the wastegates.
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Originally posted by spazpilot
I like the way people say that the PE kit is ready out of the box, but in reality you can only boost no higher then 4psi and there is no timing address with there kit. the TS ecu upgrade is an additional charge on top of the PE kit. The boost controller is also an additional charge. So in the end weather you buy greddy or PE your going to spend more money. Also don't plan on boosting more then 12psi pn those little 1420's. As for fit on the greddy kit, had no fitment issues just poor install instruction. If all studs and bolts are put in the right spot there are no issues. Instructions tell you to use studs on the wastegates.
Agreed, except for this part...."Also don't plan on boosting more then 12psi pn those little 1420's. "

Those turbos are capable of far more than that...20+ psi capable if I'm not mistaken

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Those wastegate holes are
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