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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Have:

TT Kit w/ metal gaskets
Intercooler
Type S BOV
Turbo Timer
60mm Boost guage
60mm AF Guage( to be returned)

Ordered:

Profec E-01
Borla True Dual Exhaust

Need:

Ignition Harness ( where do I find this item)
Colder Plugs( are Iridium Tune plugs ISO 7 the "racing plugs" Greddy is refering to in their instructions?)
AEM Wideband AF gauge( where do I find this and what is the part #?)
Other guages I should have and how to install them
Front grill to protect the intercooler
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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You don't need the timing harness unless you plan to up the boost. Adding it allows you to burn up the coils if you have it installed and the key on with the engine off for any extended length of time. There are also other timing options out there. So unless you plan on getting serious right away I'd hold off on that. It's no harder to install after the fact then it is to do at the kit install.

Don't get the AEM wide band if you are getting the profec e-01. The reason is the AEM wide band output is a curve not a straight line. Therefore the Profec will not be able to display accuate infomation over the full range. And that's the whole point of the wide band. There are a few wide bands that output in a linear fashion, any one of those will work.

You also don't need any other guages unless you just want them for looks. You can input sensors for the Profec to display on screen.

You can use the plugs greddy recommends but their not cheap. You can use the one step colder NGK Iridium or the two step colder Denso plug for half the Greddy plug price. either one will work fine.
Gary

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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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Looking good, I'll answer a couple of your questions.
Ignition Harness ( where do I find this item)
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ind...tional%20Parts

AEM Wideband AF gauge( where do I find this and what is the part #?)
Ask one of the vendors here at my350z.com. Greg is pretty easy to work with: http://www.gscmotorsports.com/info/?id=2936

Front grill to protect the intercooler
I just had my installer make me one out of black plastic chicken wire and it is holding up nicely.
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 05:04 AM
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You don't need the timing harness unless you plan to up the boost.
It's actually not a bad idea to get this anyways. Depending on the fuel you are running, your car might start pinging even at stock boost levels. If you are running 93 octane, I agree it may not be necessary. But on 91 octane fuel, my car, Wild350Z's, and even some stock Z!'s were pinging. As mentioned, just get some diodies from radio shack, and never leave your key in the on position unless its running. If you need to leave your key in the on position, unplug the ignition harness first.


Don't get the AEM wide band if you are getting the profec e-01. The reason is the AEM wide band output is a curve not a straight line. Therefore the Profec will not be able to display accuate infomation over the full range.
True, the output of the AEM is not linear, but for whatever reason...and nobody has been able to figure this out yet....the values are displaying accurately on the Profec when logged. Maybe when I select "A/F" as the input, it makes some kind of adjustment. I have verfiied this twice on the dyno, and even just visually looking at the guages and comparing to the Profec, they are identical.
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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GQ- this guy is just starting out, I don't think he'll get anything out of the timing harness except maybe a coil replacement bill. The way I look at it is if it doesn't drive as factory or requires "special procedures " to operate the car it's not a good idea to do it. There have been at least a few cars that have burnt a single coil or a set on here due to the timing harness. To each his own but since the cars going to be at stock boost and he has 93 octane I can't see the risk being worth the gain.

All of the 400hp+ Greddy kits right now are using the TS flash. As of right now it's the only right way to retard timing. There are many standalones coming out for this car within a year. The Apex Power FC will be out before next spring and will solve almost all of the problems with out any "hack jobs". It's up to him but the pros are not worth the cons in his case, to me at least.

As for the AEM yours it the first I've heard of reading well on the Profec. Joenismo's was reading off across the board. He redid the values so it's accuate in the important range 10.5-14 I think, but the rest is not right do to the curve. And his is labeled with A/F also. There is nothing in the Profec or E manage books about this. If you go to the AEM EMS fourm they have a how to for making it work with their EMS and it's pretty involved. I'm sure the Profec can not recreate this. But I'm glad yours works.

Please don't think I'm coming off trying to counter your ideas, you add alot to the fourm I was just explaining my view points. We throw alot of info at the new guys and we often don't explain ourselves and they have to decide with limited info. We should write a Greddy/Turbo start up guide and get it stickied to the top for the people that want to know before they take the plunge.
Gary
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by 7 eleven
All of the 400hp+ Greddy kits right now are using the TS flash
I know most of the 400+ TT guys use the TS flash.

FYI, I am at 410 and I use the timing harness. I have been pretty happy with it. I am adding a Crawford plenum and Borla exhaust in the next week or so and will tune a little more aggresively.

I thought there were more 400+ guys using the timing harness? I could be wrong.
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by 7 eleven

Don't get the AEM wide band if you are getting the profec e-01. The reason is the AEM wide band output is a curve not a straight line. .
Gary
100% agree with this!
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Bini2
I know most of the 400+ TT guys use the TS flash.

FYI, I am at 410 and I use the timing harness. I have been pretty happy with it. I am adding a Crawford plenum and Borla exhaust in the next week or so and will tune a little more aggresively.

I thought there were more 400+ guys using the timing harness? I could be wrong.
I stand corrected. Also ACP maybe over now with his tuning not sure. I'm sure many will follow.
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