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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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Joe....slow down...LOL. I remember you telling me you drive pretty fast...but 140mph on the 405/101 interchange. Sheesh.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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Adding test pipes will cause your boost to be higher due to the higher flow allowing the turbos to spool quicker and easier.

Sounds like the dyno may be reading a little higher than when we dynod the last... Also don't forget the weather stations on Dynojets really suck and make too many adjustments for hot vs. cold weather compared to the DTS dyno which has a more sophisticated weather station... could be a true higher reading due to the cooler weather we have been having (which is not as noticeable on the dynojet since it corrects so much).
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by gq_626
Joe....slow down...LOL. I remember you telling me you drive pretty fast...but 140mph on the 405/101 interchange. Sheesh.
I had a really lengthy reply to this and I had a fat finger moment and it's all gone.

I'll just mention this.

You're right I do drive fast, and yes we had spoken a time or two, and right or wrong, I have been doing it for a long time.

I take every possible consideration into account, and I do it as safely as possible.

In every situation, I determine if I should do whatever it is I'm thinking about doing. I never just do it because I can.

I can rationalize this all I want, and it doesn't make it right, I just want you (anyone) to know there is a difference between what I do, and what many others do.

Oh yea, did I mention this is all my fathers fault? I've been getting therapy for it all my life and it just doesn't seem to be helping.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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Alright so last night was a good one.

Unfortunately, I don't have the details as to "what is was" but here ya go.

I guess the color was machine silver metalic, coupe, corvette, and yes it was "new" 04/05.

What was great about this particular incident, whoever was driving that car thought it would be funny to come along side of me 30/40mph and blow my doors off and he did, as I wasn't expecting it, or actually interested at that time.

I'm sure it was safe to say that it wasn't a Z06, so let's not go there, but even the 04 Corvette has 350bhp/360trq, and the damn thing was loud!

What's also interesting about this was that I am currently experiencing "some" difficulty with my new VDC meory mod, as it's apparently interfering with my ability to switch it on/off.

So VDC was engaged at this time, and so I told my passenger that it wasn't worth trying to kill this guy as my VDC is going to prevent me from gettin crazy.

Anyhow, as we are between traffic lights, I'm scanning around and there is no reason not to give this guy something for his troubles although I really figured he proved his point. 40K car kills 30K car "easily". These costs are are basic/drivetrain only.

He's also figuring he's toying with a 287bhp/274trq car

I always hated this line up as it was

Little does he know....

So we arrive at the light, dead stop, and as I have the VDC on, I gotta start off lightly, and apparently he did also for whatever reason.

We gett off and running, and you can hear his engine start to roar, I'm near the top of 1st I'm half a car length ahead, and then I shift into 2nd!

CORVETTE

From 2nd on the vette was gone the closest he was 2 car lengths...

Me and my passenger start laughing are a$$es off as that was my first serious confirmed kill. And then the vette turns off into an industrial street and turns around.

Afterwards I couldn't believe that the VDC didn't kick in and just stop me in my tracks. On several other test runs/launches, VDC did kill me.



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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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Joe, you need to disconnect the yaw sensor under the center console... just below the e-brake. This will permanently disable the VDC without interfering with your ABS. The VDC/Slip lights will stay on all the time though... it's the black Bosch sensor. HTH
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 06:59 AM
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Joe, you need to disconnect the yaw sensor under the center console... just below the e-brake. This will permanently disable the VDC without interfering with your ABS. The VDC/Slip lights will stay on all the time though... it's the black Bosch sensor. HTH
I've mentioned this before, I like VDC when I am just cruising around town in non-performance-driving-mode. So disconnecting that sensor is not really an option for me.

I'm certain this mod is somehow interfering with the VDC system, as it used to work just fine when I first installed it.

BTW, remember the lovely lockout situation? That is a feature, and you can disable it, so that's been taken care of.

I'm in contact with KP tech, we'll see what happens.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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I've mentioned this before, I like VDC when I am just cruising around town in non-performance-driving-mode. So disconnecting that sensor is not really an option for me.

I'm certain this mod is somehow interfering with the VDC system, as it used to work just fine when I first installed it.

BTW, remember the lovely lockout situation? That is a feature, and you can disable it, so that's been taken care of.

I'm in contact with KP tech, we'll see what happens.
Hmm , can't you just add a switch in series with the Yaw sensor then?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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Hmm , can't you just add a switch in series with the Yaw sensor then?
More than likely yes.

Although not all circuits like/tolerate being switched. I'd have to dig into that one.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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sweet stories man. I hope to one day be able to tell my grand kids tales of such ownage. BTW, how much did the whole install and labor cost? If there was one thing you could change about the APS kit, what would it be?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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sweet stories man. I hope to one day be able to tell my grand kids tales of such ownage. BTW, how much did the whole install and labor cost? If there was one thing you could change about the APS kit, what would it be?
LMAO, that's funny.

The kit is 7500, install was 3000, so $10,500. YOu can get install between 2000/5000 from what I hear.

Whatever number you end up with, it's the end. As you may know, you can end up in a snowball affect with any major enhancement.

For example, in my case, clutch/flywheel had to go, so there was something unexpected. I had a performance clutch/flywheel, that didn't perform.

Tires, you gotta have tires that can take this power, so figure that in. You may need new wheels for new tires to factor that in, etc..etc..

As far as the kit goes, I have heard stories about prepaid cancellations, and cash price deals, so see what you can find.

As far as things I would change. I'm not able to seriously answer that, but something that had been brought up in the APS thread is the "Computer" side of things.

It be nice to have multiple map ability.

Greddy has their e-manage/profec system which is very nice and offers a lot of "easy" control.

Right now APS doesn't offer that.

looks like I might be doing something to fix that by getting another computer and switching from street to track mode.

We'll see...

There are more things I might change if I knew more than I do at this time but overall, this KIT is very thorough/complete for an out-of-the-box solution.

When you know more/have more money there are many more options out there, such as going completely custom, or modifying something you buy off the shelf.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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with your price of install, did that include gauges and tuning as well?
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LMAO, that's funny.

The kit is 7500, install was 3000, so $10,500. YOu can get install between 2000/5000 from what I hear.

Whatever number you end up with, it's the end. As you may know, you can end up in a snowball affect with any major enhancement.

For example, in my case, clutch/flywheel had to go, so there was something unexpected. I had a performance clutch/flywheel, that didn't perform.

Tires, you gotta have tires that can take this power, so figure that in. You may need new wheels for new tires to factor that in, etc..etc..

As far as the kit goes, I have heard stories about prepaid cancellations, and cash price deals, so see what you can find.

As far as things I would change. I'm not able to seriously answer that, but something that had been brought up in the APS thread is the "Computer" side of things.

It be nice to have multiple map ability.

Greddy has their e-manage/profec system which is very nice and offers a lot of "easy" control.

Right now APS doesn't offer that.

looks like I might be doing something to fix that by getting another computer and switching from street to track mode.

We'll see...

There are more things I might change if I knew more than I do at this time but overall, this KIT is very thorough/complete for an out-of-the-box solution.

When you know more/have more money there are many more options out there, such as going completely custom, or modifying something you buy off the shelf.
If you haven't check out this thread, may be hope for at least an A/B switched map in the single Unichip controller.

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=99075
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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If you haven't check out this thread, may be hope for at least an A/B switched map in the single Unichip controller.

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=99075
This would be nice, I'm checking that out now.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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This would be nice, I'm checking that out now.
Actulaly I just got off the phone with "joshua" at unichip, and he is confident the unichip already has this ability and with a rotary switch we could select different maps.

I'm going to be putting Roshan in Contact with him and see where this goes.

thanks,

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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Actulaly I just got off the phone with "joshua" at unichip, and he is confident the unichip already has this ability and with a rotary switch we could select different maps.

I'm going to be putting Roshan in Contact with him and see where this goes.

thanks,

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cool , thanx for making my life easier , since I'll be follwing in a few months.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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cool , thanx for making my life easier , since I'll be follwing in a few months.
We'll see how this goes, I was surprised by Joshua's statement that it can already be done.

He said you could cram up to 12 maps into this thing as it is, and then he throws in this comment about "resolution".

I told him that of course I don't want to do anything to jeoparize the quality/validity of the information, and I would only want about 4 or 5 maps.

He said "no problem".

Famous last words right?

I'll know more about this Tuesday!
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 05:55 AM
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Well it finally happened, had a guy in a M3 ahead of me in regular traffic. Pulled up on his side and he didn't appear to be interested, so I wasn't concerned either.

However, as usual, light goes green I can hear him reving up.

He was with me most of 1st, and that was about it I finished him off at the top of 2nd, and cruised after 2nd.

He decided to stay back for a while, and then he decided to come up and pass me, no look, no nothing.... where's the luv?
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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will this kit work with a 2004.5 car?
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by wick3d350Z
will this kit work with a 2004.5 car?
To the best of my knowledge yes, I've sen you posting in the TurboNetics thread, so as you may know, their Kit is working off the factory ECU where as this, and other kits have a piggy back computer which handles the additional needs of fuel/timing under boost/forced induction.

Unless there is some physical change to the motor (which is highly unlikely) there is no reason why it will not go on a 05, I know for sure it's fine on the 04.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by alpine
To the best of my knowledge yes, I've sen you posting in the TurboNetics thread, so as you may know, their Kit is working off the factory ECU where as this, and other kits have a piggy back computer which handles the additional needs of fuel/timing under boost/forced induction.

Unless there is some physical change to the motor (which is highly unlikely) there is no reason why it will not go on a 05, I know for sure it's fine on the 04.
There are some concerns and problems with the ULEVII ECU's that are found ont he 2004.5 and later 350Z's. Apparently the Greddy eManage has some issues with this...and maybe the HKS SC. Seems to be hit or miss..

According to Peter, they have done testing on the 2004.5 ECU's and have had no issues, so the APS should work on all 350Z's
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