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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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KINETIX keeps making me spend money. What' a great V4 plenum worth anyway?
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 350Zteve
Yes, there are large HP gains, but where? This thing start showing improvement at 6100RPMS. What good is that?

I also question the validity of the gains all together. If you look at the before dyno, the car starts to run out of steam and the power drops off before redline. I think this is a tuning issue.
Good observations. The gains are a peak power and really needs a Technosquare to optimize. It's useful for the drag strip but wont be as useful at the track except in straight-aways and is not going to be a factor in daily driving. You might also be right about the tuning.

Nevertheless, the gains are impressive. I'm waiting to see what happens to a NA car without flash to see if this is worthwhile for a NA owner. It seems like a better deal for FI owners.

LSD, great work on a new part.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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I personally would be more inclined to buy this IM solely based on its appearance. This IM is unbelievable looking. If the gains are nearly as good as stated, thats definitely an added bonus. But like I said, I'd buy this thing just because of how awesome it looks!!!
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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We are also in the process of finalizing an AWESOME engine cover that will really complement the new manifold. It will cover all the new space that is uncovered with the new design.

we are very confident that when we release polished pics with engine cover, it will be absolutely gorgeous.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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lsdunique, when will that be?
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Will this unique engine cover be included in the $700 price tag for the group buy???
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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no, the engine cover will not be included with the manifold, because I am sure many people will choose not to run a cover.

I would expect pictures of the cover within 2 weeks, and hopefully the cover will be ready for shipment a few weeks later.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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gains look nice for those running a TS ECU which can make use of the added power/rpms. The only thing puzzling me is the drop off in power in the before dyno. There is no way a Centrifugal blower equipped car should be dropping off in power up top unless there is something wrong or a terribly rich tune. Why didn't you guys post the a/f charts for both runs?

Looks promising though....
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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waiting to see any results on an n/a setup...
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by blubyu
There is no way a Centrifugal blower equipped car should be dropping off in power up top unless there is something wrong or a terribly rich tune.
Anyone worth their weight in FI will have taken out some timing off the top-end in fear of detonation/pre-ignition and consequently lost of some power (top-end). However, don't confuse my statement as a validation (nor disproval) of the Dyno Plot posted. That remains to be seen when more independant testing is shown. It certainly looks promosing at this point.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by THX723
Anyone worth their weight in FI will have taken out some timing off the top-end in fear of detonation/pre-ignition and consequently lost of some power (top-end). However, don't confuse my statement as a validation (nor disproval) of the Dyno Plot posted. That remains to be seen when more independant testing is shown. It certainly looks promosing at this point.
Yes that is true but more rpms=more boost offsetting the timing retard. I myself have a vortech T-trim blower on my 96 Maxima with a tuned JWT ECU which is way too conservative with timing especially up top and my power never takes a fall, basically a one sided mountain until the rev limit. Im just curious to see the a/f charts of the before dyno since they are posted for the after dyno and it looks right about where it should be at peak. Im not trying to argue bc this is a blind point until further info is posted, but your point does make some sense.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Any info on engine cover or NA gains?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by blubyu
Yes that is true but more rpms=more boost offsetting the timing retard. I myself have a vortech T-trim blower on my 96 Maxima with a tuned JWT ECU which is way too conservative with timing especially up top and my power never takes a fall, basically a one sided mountain until the rev limit. Im just curious to see the a/f charts of the before dyno since they are posted for the after dyno and it looks right about where it should be at peak. Im not trying to argue bc this is a blind point until further info is posted, but your point does make some sense.
Here is the before and after dyno with A/F.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SungNamZ
Here is the before and after dyno with A/F.
thanks
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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smooth out that A/F ratio to 12:1 across the board and youll be making a lot more power.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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quick noobish question.

how come the z's dyno graphs always dip around 5600-6000rpm?
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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Can't wait to see some N/A gains from this thing. Looks like it's gonna be a great product!
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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am I the only one that thinks that car needs some cams? I have a feeling there would be monstrous gains with some longer duration cams combined with the intake manifold, with even more under-the-curve area gain before 6K rpm.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo-maxima
smooth out that A/F ratio to 12:1 across the board and youll be making a lot more power.
That's next! The last major tune I had was in November 2004. The altitude here in Albuquerque does cause some unique A/F problems The washer in the FMU have already been downsized.

Will go back in and do some major stuff once I receive the finished product. The purpose was to just switch from V4 to the new intake and post numbers. While I am waiting, new plugs have been installed, 380 injectors installed and ECU re-flashed by TS for larger injectors. As soon as I receive the final product, will put it back up on the dyno, post numbers and pics.
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