Alphawerks vs. DC Sports
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Originally Posted by MyNismoRoadster
1) its does matter where its made, why? cause quality of the materials, quality of the craftsmanship, and dont you have pride in what you put on your car? Chinese made parts never have R&D or dyno work, they just slap it together off someone elses jig design.
2)Nexus/Alphawerks from what i see looks like they modify the chinese headers from what i heard.
3)Headers of the left are the Nismo Headers (good materials but, crappy craftmanship. on that particular one).
2)Nexus/Alphawerks from what i see looks like they modify the chinese headers from what i heard.
3)Headers of the left are the Nismo Headers (good materials but, crappy craftmanship. on that particular one).
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2.) Alphawerks made their own headers for RHD 350Z's. Nexus got exclusive rights to sell them in the USA. They purchase them from Alphawerks and modify them in the USA to fit LHD 350Z's.
3.) Every NISMO performance part in the last 20 years has been made by another company and branded as NISMO. (or at least that's what i've heard)
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How do you know the ones on ebay are Top Speed headers? I have tried to search on that and it returns nothing. Or is it just an assumption that the ones on ebay are Top Speed Headers?
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Originally Posted by MrGags
wut about strupp? Ain't nobody give strupp no credit. For $630 I don't think they're too bad, gains are good and quality looks second to none.
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gee. thats some badmouthing with no real backing...
IMO, not all made in china things are bad. I just bought a Blueridge guitar that was made in china...and let me tell you, it sounds amazing. great quality.
also, i reallly dont think it is fair to compare "(good materials but, crappy craftmanship. on that particular one)" piece to an exceptional piece. and regardless, like i said, the numbers dont lie. who cares what its made of. are you going to be looking at the insides ever again? ever? so.......
IMO, not all made in china things are bad. I just bought a Blueridge guitar that was made in china...and let me tell you, it sounds amazing. great quality.
also, i reallly dont think it is fair to compare "(good materials but, crappy craftmanship. on that particular one)" piece to an exceptional piece. and regardless, like i said, the numbers dont lie. who cares what its made of. are you going to be looking at the insides ever again? ever? so.......
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Originally Posted by Blue_pen
How do you know the ones on ebay are Top Speed headers? I have tried to search on that and it returns nothing. Or is it just an assumption that the ones on ebay are Top Speed Headers?
A little inside info for you, Top Speed doesnt make any of thier products either, there are 2 makers of the Stainless Steel headers on ebay, most of which comes from the same factory as Top Speed's branded ones in Taiwan, so quality is essentially identicle. And the other one you can tell they used a Mig to weld them instead if Tig, collector is of bad quality, weld seams look as they are chromed instead of that tig "rainbow burnt" look on the weld area whereas TS ones are Tig welded and dont chrome the weld areas. If you want a set of Top Speed i can give you a great price if you want them.
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I was going to post a pic of my pro-1 header collectors, but it looks the same as above, i think if the look the same or similar, they are. Those that don't meet quality standards probably just get sold as some other company. Yes, if i had the money, i'd get Crawfords, but for now, my pro-1's will do.....
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The Strup headers ARE proven performers, there just aren't many ppl on this list who own them yet and are talking them up. That's why Charlie Wenstrup and I are working hard to spread the love. ;o)
Believe me, the quality and build, welds and fitment are fantastic. Install time is less than others, and the performance gains are on par with the others out there. These are not cheaply made, mass-produced parts like the eBay ones mentioned above. The flanges are made thicker to avoid warpage, and pipe construction is made in the good ole' US of A!
Also, there are instances of where it's made being an issue. The quality of steel in other countries doesn't always match up to the quality of steel in the USA. The mines and refining processes are different when it comes to the purity of a metal. Refining processes in other countries doesn't always match up to the standards met here in the US... just something to consider when thinking that materials don't always matter.. when a lesser quality of steel is used under such extreme conditions, there will be failures over time. I've seen it happen with other manufacturer's headers. I've seen it happen with different quality of aluminum pistons too. So, sometimes, the money you save up front can end up costing you much more down the road.
Some other info, if you haven't seen these threads yet:
Independent opinion on quality, etc.:
https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exhaust/127004-strup-headers.html
And as for the price. $630 seems a little high, dontcha think?! ;o) How about $430?!
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125621
Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions or need any other info. There should be a couple of independent dyno tests popping up here in the near future too.
Believe me, you won't be sorry with this set of headers. They deliver what you would expect and then some!
Believe me, the quality and build, welds and fitment are fantastic. Install time is less than others, and the performance gains are on par with the others out there. These are not cheaply made, mass-produced parts like the eBay ones mentioned above. The flanges are made thicker to avoid warpage, and pipe construction is made in the good ole' US of A!
Also, there are instances of where it's made being an issue. The quality of steel in other countries doesn't always match up to the quality of steel in the USA. The mines and refining processes are different when it comes to the purity of a metal. Refining processes in other countries doesn't always match up to the standards met here in the US... just something to consider when thinking that materials don't always matter.. when a lesser quality of steel is used under such extreme conditions, there will be failures over time. I've seen it happen with other manufacturer's headers. I've seen it happen with different quality of aluminum pistons too. So, sometimes, the money you save up front can end up costing you much more down the road.
Some other info, if you haven't seen these threads yet:
Independent opinion on quality, etc.:
https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exhaust/127004-strup-headers.html
And as for the price. $630 seems a little high, dontcha think?! ;o) How about $430?!
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125621
Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions or need any other info. There should be a couple of independent dyno tests popping up here in the near future too.
Believe me, you won't be sorry with this set of headers. They deliver what you would expect and then some!
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Originally Posted by partshipperdave
The Strup headers ARE proven performers, there just aren't many ppl on this list who own them yet and are talking them up. That's why Charlie Wenstrup and I are working hard to spread the love. ;o)
Believe me, the quality and build, welds and fitment are fantastic. Install time is less than others, and the performance gains are on par with the others out there. These are not cheaply made, mass-produced parts like the eBay ones mentioned above. The flanges are made thicker to avoid warpage, and pipe construction is made in the good ole' US of A!
Also, there are instances of where it's made being an issue. The quality of steel in other countries doesn't always match up to the quality of steel in the USA. The mines and refining processes are different when it comes to the purity of a metal. Refining processes in other countries doesn't always match up to the standards met here in the US... just something to consider when thinking that materials don't always matter.. when a lesser quality of steel is used under such extreme conditions, there will be failures over time. I've seen it happen with other manufacturer's headers. I've seen it happen with different quality of aluminum pistons too. So, sometimes, the money you save up front can end up costing you much more down the road.
Some other info, if you haven't seen these threads yet:
Independent opinion on quality, etc.:
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127004
And as for the price. $630 seems a little high, dontcha think?! ;o) How about $430?!
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125621
Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions or need any other info. There should be a couple of independent dyno tests popping up here in the near future too.
Believe me, you won't be sorry with this set of headers. They deliver what you would expect and then some!
Believe me, the quality and build, welds and fitment are fantastic. Install time is less than others, and the performance gains are on par with the others out there. These are not cheaply made, mass-produced parts like the eBay ones mentioned above. The flanges are made thicker to avoid warpage, and pipe construction is made in the good ole' US of A!
Also, there are instances of where it's made being an issue. The quality of steel in other countries doesn't always match up to the quality of steel in the USA. The mines and refining processes are different when it comes to the purity of a metal. Refining processes in other countries doesn't always match up to the standards met here in the US... just something to consider when thinking that materials don't always matter.. when a lesser quality of steel is used under such extreme conditions, there will be failures over time. I've seen it happen with other manufacturer's headers. I've seen it happen with different quality of aluminum pistons too. So, sometimes, the money you save up front can end up costing you much more down the road.
Some other info, if you haven't seen these threads yet:
Independent opinion on quality, etc.:
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127004
And as for the price. $630 seems a little high, dontcha think?! ;o) How about $430?!
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125621
Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions or need any other info. There should be a couple of independent dyno tests popping up here in the near future too.
Believe me, you won't be sorry with this set of headers. They deliver what you would expect and then some!
Can you post some pics of the collector? I'd be happy to test fit these on a Turbonetics single turbo car if you like? PM me some details on the sponsorship you referrred to.
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pics on the way...
The sponsorship deal is the vendor special posted, $430.00 for the set. This sponsorship deal is for the first dozen customers who buy the set at this discounted price we have currently listed on our site, then combined with the $100.00 rebate direct from Strup!
The sponsorship deal is the vendor special posted, $430.00 for the set. This sponsorship deal is for the first dozen customers who buy the set at this discounted price we have currently listed on our site, then combined with the $100.00 rebate direct from Strup!
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Originally Posted by partshipperdave
pics on the way...
The sponsorship deal is the vendor special posted, $430.00 for the set. This sponsorship deal is for the first dozen customers who buy the set at this discounted price we have currently listed on our site, then combined with the $100.00 rebate direct from Strup!
The sponsorship deal is the vendor special posted, $430.00 for the set. This sponsorship deal is for the first dozen customers who buy the set at this discounted price we have currently listed on our site, then combined with the $100.00 rebate direct from Strup!
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Ahhh IC....well I'm not even sure if these will fit on my car due to the location of the turbo downpipe. Guess I'll pass...
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holy ccrap. i just want headers that are quality.. which means they wont crack in like 2 years and i wont have an exhaust leak and are cost effective,.. which means i am not paying $900 for welded tubes that dont do jack.. any.. lamens terms advice?
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Originally Posted by partshipperdave
pics on the way...
The sponsorship deal is the vendor special posted, $430.00 for the set. This sponsorship deal is for the first dozen customers who buy the set at this discounted price we have currently listed on our site, then combined with the $100.00 rebate direct from Strup!
The sponsorship deal is the vendor special posted, $430.00 for the set. This sponsorship deal is for the first dozen customers who buy the set at this discounted price we have currently listed on our site, then combined with the $100.00 rebate direct from Strup!
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my strups will be in this coming wednesday. but... they're going on at the same time with my invidia g200 exhaust and helix test pipes, so i probably won't be able to give an accurate review of "just" the headers. but i will dyno the car here shortly with all of the mods to see how they compare to others with similar setups but different brands.