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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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I was just wondering if getting headers, Hi flow cats, and a plenum is really worth all the money for the little gains you get. Would I be better off just saving my money and Get FI?
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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If I have to do it all over again....I will save all that money to go FI. Here is the break down in price:

headers : $800 + $200 - $400 installation fee.
hiflow cats: $300 + $50 - $100 installation fee.
plenum : $350 to $600
then exhaust, blah blah... add them all up....you can buy a TT setup that put down much more power. But take in the isntallation and tuning of the TT will be more.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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what phat said, but breathing will help your fi, too.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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05 Track Plenum + Headers =

Test Pipes + Headers = Headache

Plenum + Test Pipes = Headache...

Most power...

If you leave your cats alone... and do headers / plenum etc... you will gain more HP... ECU reflash doesnt allways fix everything...
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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FI is great but you're looking at least 10K to spend while header/cat cost much less than that and you still have some hp gain plus better sound.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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Like noted above, you will eventually want to get these if your going FI either way, well except for the headers if you're going to go turbo. I have this set up...well along with a pop charger & exhaust and it gives you extra power, however, nothing near what FI could get.

I should have a dyno later today, which might give you a better idea of how much they really add.
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kangol99,

It's totally up to you... everything said above is pretty true. FI/ SC is a better bang for you buck, if you can front the 6-10k to do it. I chose the n/a route with a budget and will replace and upgrade parts as they wear or rust out.

I've spent roughly $1400 on my engine mods Grnd.kit, Eng. dampener, CAI, AAM spacer, SS TS headers + Jethot2k and SS HELIX HF cats + Jethot2k. All installed by myself, it does help... Would I do it again, YES! I can feel the difference and I love the new sound coming from the stock exhaust.

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
05 Track Plenum + Headers =

Test Pipes + Headers = Headache

Plenum + Test Pipes = Headache...

Most power...

If you leave your cats alone... and do headers / plenum etc... you will gain more HP... ECU reflash doesnt allways fix everything...
do you know this first-hand, and if so, how do you account for it? lets see the numbers/proof.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
05 Track Plenum + Headers =

Test Pipes + Headers = Headache

Plenum + Test Pipes = Headache...

Most power...

If you leave your cats alone... and do headers / plenum etc... you will gain more HP... ECU reflash doesnt allways fix everything...
yooooooooohoooooo, Jaaaaaaaason,
can you please expand/explain the above quote, pleeeeeeeeze?
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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bump for jason
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 05:19 AM
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ZBoy your nutz LOL!!!
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Not sure why you guy's think F/I is $10k. Most superchargers and the Turbonetics S/T are less than $5400 OTD (installed). For me, N/A wasn't even a consideration. IMO, if you are considering N/A or F/I, I would just get a S/T (preferrably Turbonetics, APS ST is too expensive for what you get IMO). And the good thing about it is later on you can get those same mods and gain quite a bit of power. Increasing air flow on F/I vehicles yields good gains. Better than N/A at least.
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Quick question though. If you dont track or race your car, what is the benefit of F/I over N/A. Any?
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It depends on where you live. (as far as being able to use the power you have) Kind of like asking what's the benefit of modding vs. stock. If you get to use the power, by all means, do it. If not, leave it stock. F/I also has tons more potential than N/A [VQ35DE].
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Originally Posted by ncparamedic
Quick question though. If you dont track or race your car, what is the benefit of F/I over N/A. Any?
you're obviously not a speed junkie. god, i wish i weren't one either, and so does my bank acct.

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I would say if its a daily driver and you have to depend on it to get you to work, stay N/A. Just seems safer even though some kits coming out are proving to be reliable.
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Originally Posted by Z BOY
yooooooooohoooooo, Jaaaaaaaason,
can you please expand/explain the above quote, pleeeeeeeeze?
so wtf ever happened to jason@performance? he used to be very active on this board. now he rarely posts and doesn't respond to pms or email. is he back on the pipe or just puzzy whippd?

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Originally Posted by Z BOY
so wtf ever happened to jason@performance? he used to be very active on this board. now he rarely posts and doesn't respond to pms or email. is he back on the pipe or just puzzy whippd?
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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So far i have test pipes, plenum spacer (which had better hp gains then crawford), and intake. headers are up next. do everything yourself and it won't cost you too much. Turbo next so some NA parts will have to go but thats not too bad because it is easy to sell the stuff you don't need, there is always someone out there wanting to buy your old parts.
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Well so far Ive purchased:
Motordyne 1/2" spacer, Popcharger w/spl intake tube and varis cf intake. Im ordering the helix hf cats and have already recieved my invida g200. Im scared of making the decision on headers just because of all the horror stories on installation but with what I have Im hoping on some improved performance. Im going to dyno my car stock then dyno it with the modes and see. <fingers crossed> I swear I have put more money in mods that I will never see..lol..
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