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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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this is for an '06 base model z: i have a budget of $7000(including install)

-megan racing headers(jet hotted)
-megan racing test pipes(jet hotted)
-greddy evo2 cat-back
-3.917 gears w/nismo LSD(assembled)
-8lb streetable tilton clutch/flywheel combo
-nismo r-tune CAI
-AAM plenum spacer

i think this would be a pretty sweet setup for my budget n/a '06... considering factors in my old '04 i think this would be perfect(you can see my old mods in sig)
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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With 7k you could buy a turbonetics single turbo which would make more hp than all of those mods combined.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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might want to consider something other than megan test pipes...not many good stories on those...unlcear on the headers...sounds like a good setup tho...probably get more power with cams/headers/spacer/tps/UTEC/exhaust and probably have money left over...cams and utec will be ur money mods (exhaust can be high too) might have enough left over for the 3.90LSD...but like mentioned b4...7gs will get u a real nice Turbonetics single kit with fuel return/utec/larger injectors/and way more power...just another route tho...hope that helped ya
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 04evo2
this is for an '06 base model z: i have a budget of $7000(including install)

-megan racing headers(jet hotted)
-megan racing test pipes(jet hotted)
-greddy evo2 cat-back
-3.917 gears w/nismo LSD(assembled)
-8lb streetable tilton clutch/flywheel combo
-nismo r-tune CAI
-AAM plenum spacer
I think your money could be much better spent. I would never buy anything Megan, ever. The gears/LSD, test pipes (I recommend resonated ones) and the plenum spacer and exhaust are excellent choices if you want to stay NA. I would recommend DC or Alphawerks headers. Good results for the price. For and intake, I would just go with the POP charger. None of the intakes really give any power.

My personal recommendation for $7000 would be Turbonetics ST, ATS differential, Apexi exhaust.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Nix the Jet Hot Coatings: Won't be significant enough to justify.

Nix the clutch: Stock with those N/A mods will be satisfactory.

I don't know anything about Megan brand headers and test pipes. I do really like my resonated test pipes though.

Is a angled spacer as good as a full on aftermarket plenum? I don't know.

Take savings from items I nixed for you and get cams instead. Or get a piggy back with a nice tune to go with everything. A EU or that new UTEC or even a Unichip like I have. Anyway like everything in my sig and you can be under your 7K budget I am pretty sure. Oh wait you should go over that because of the 3.90's. So get cams now and a piggyback later then. When I had the Kinetix plenum on I had 288 WHP on a load dyno. You do all that and with the gears you'll be KARAZY.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 01:30 AM
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^^^ +1

Don't believe the hype on n/a mods...It doesn't apply to you because you were obviously satisfied with your "old" mods. STI slower than a Z...Doubts...
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 06:50 AM
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You can get better quality and performance with a set of Strup headers for an exceptional price. An independent dyno test submitted by a fellow list member on an '05 Z put out about 19HP and 19ft./lbs of torque. Check our vendor classified ad for the dyno chart and sale going on right now. Excellent bang for the buck - one of the best NA mods you can do. Also, Strup will be coming out with test pipes in the very near future!

One of the other best NA mods you can do for your '06 with the "revup" motor, is get the Motordyne MREV kit - much better choice for you than the spacer. We have those on sale too! Vendor classifieds. new sale price is updated. why overspend when you don't have too!

Agreed, that you won't need a different clutch - but it won't hurt if that's what you really want... Stock clutch will be fine, but a lightweight flywheel will be a nice addition and really help her rev a little more freely.
3.917 LSD will be a nice mod too.
cams will help give you a nice kick in the higher rpm range too.

Good luck with the mods and the new caa...
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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Ugh...
7 grand?
f*ck n/a then...
go turbo!
If i had 7 grand on top... i wouldnt buy the Z ... get the M3, S4 or something...
......
But is the a street car or race car?
if u insist n/a
How ya going to manage to get tilton if ur mind... it would be a pain in the ***
imo for street get nismo clutch and jwt fly (rick's idea)
strup headers, pro-1 test pipes, and pro-1 exhaust (3inch)
get nismo internals...
that would be a *** mother f*cking machine though...
7 grand get some exterior ups too... like a bodykit(or at least a front lip) and nice rims?
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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well first off im def. not interested in going f/i. im also not interested in doing anything internally(atleast for a while). basically all i want is all of the good bolt ons and maybe some nitrous in the future. i really dont know much about megan racing either(it was just the price) but would love to have the crawford headers except for price. I know for a fact i want the tilton combo(theres no way i wont notice that!) and the gears. then just a headers back exhaust with a CAI and plenum spacer. i dont really like the idea of the spacer being that i like the whole plenum but i've been hearing that it works the almost same?? i guess i'll have to do more searching on the headers and test pipes...i used to have the still tp and i didnt like them. my friend has the megan's and he says they are cool, i gotta listen to them this weekend. also about the pop charger, i just hate the idea of the short ram..im def going with a cold air. my AEM was great on my old z and i have faith in the nismo.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
Ugh...
7 grand?
f*ck n/a then...
go turbo!
If i had 7 grand on top... i wouldnt buy the Z ... get the M3, S4 or something...
......
But is the a street car or race car?
if u insist n/a
How ya going to manage to get tilton if ur mind... it would be a pain in the ***
imo for street get nismo clutch and jwt fly (rick's idea)
strup headers, pro-1 test pipes, and pro-1 exhaust (3inch)
get nismo internals...
that would be a *** mother f*cking machine though...
7 grand get some exterior ups too... like a bodykit(or at least a front lip) and nice rims?
i've driven all sorts of crazy cars, heavily modded and stock...i know i can handle the flywheel and clutch. I actually like when cars feel less streetable(sound and driveability).
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HoldThisForMe
might want to consider something other than megan test pipes...not many good stories on those...unlcear on the headers...sounds like a good setup tho...probably get more power with cams/headers/spacer/tps/UTEC/exhaust and probably have money left over...cams and utec will be ur money mods (exhaust can be high too) might have enough left over for the 3.90LSD...but like mentioned b4...7gs will get u a real nice Turbonetics single kit with fuel return/utec/larger injectors/and way more power...just another route tho...hope that helped ya
do you like your spacer?
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by froggy
^^^ +1

Don't believe the hype on n/a mods...It doesn't apply to you because you were obviously satisfied with your "old" mods. STI slower than a Z...Doubts...
trust me i think i would know which was faster. STI's are all hyped. it fell on its face after 70mph which is when my z woke up. when i had the z i raced a friends stock sti from behind him and swerved around him by middle 3rd gear.....dont get me wrong, there were VERY few cars that would get out on me from 0-45mph but after that it was just weak! The only reason i got the sti was to go built motor with gt35r but was disapointed with a few things so got out of it. basically im kinda out of the whole crazy power car thing i just want to get back into a sleeper z like my old one. way much more fun even if its a low 13 second car. BTW 13.1 @107 in the sti and it was like 90 deg. out
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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i would highly suggest finding a friend that has the tilton combo installed and give his/her car a test drive. If you didn't know already, the tilton flywheel is the lightest on the market (8 lbs) and the tilton clutch is cerametallic; which basically means, that there's very little feathering you can do with the clutch. And just beware you will hear that "chatter" sound under 2500 rpms. But don't get me wrong; if you want the maximum performance from a clutch/flywheel combo, then Tilton is your best bet. I would really suggest test driving it first though. Oh yah just know now that it's pretty hard to launch a Tilton setup; I drove my friend's z (N/A modded) and had some difficulty with launches, as well as engagement. Hope this helps.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 04evo2
do you like your spacer?
Yes I like my spacer. It gives the same results for less money. I would go with either Strup or Alphawerks headers...good quality...I think that will be my next mod unless I decide to get the UTEC...too many things I want to do grrrr
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by steakpinoy
i would highly suggest finding a friend that has the tilton combo installed and give his/her car a test drive. If you didn't know already, the tilton flywheel is the lightest on the market (8 lbs) and the tilton clutch is cerametallic; which basically means, that there's very little feathering you can do with the clutch. And just beware you will hear that "chatter" sound under 2500 rpms. But don't get me wrong; if you want the maximum performance from a clutch/flywheel combo, then Tilton is your best bet. I would really suggest test driving it first though. Oh yah just know now that it's pretty hard to launch a Tilton setup; I drove my friend's z (N/A modded) and had some difficulty with launches, as well as engagement. Hope this helps.
thanks for the info but ive driven a ceramic clutch before and have driven many cars from a 900rwhp turbo '04 cobra to a 400whp turbo integra so ive been around the block with special clutches and lightweight flywheels. I get your drift on ofcoarse it will def be harder to drive and launch but like i said that is what i like...
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HoldThisForMe
Yes I like my spacer. It gives the same results for less money. I would go with either Strup or Alphawerks headers...good quality...I think that will be my next mod unless I decide to get the UTEC...too many things I want to do grrrr
thanks for the info...I think what i have changed due to alittle more thinking is:
-DC headers(ceramic)
-kinetix tp w/res
-greddy evo2 cat-back
-nismo CAI
-Mrev 5/16 kit
-3.91 gears w/nismo lsd
-some sort of tune....technosquare??
-and as for the clutch and flywheel even tho i really want it, i think im gonna pass until i just need a new clutch and then maybe do cams at the same time.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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If I where you, this is how I would go,

Crawford Plenum & Strut Bar $500
Crawford Headers $950-Group Buy
Injen Exhaust $725
Test Pipes $180
EU and Autosport Harness $800
JWT Popcharger $90
JWT Clutch & Flywheel $725-Speacial at Avalon Racing
Plus or minus a few dollars thats $4000

Take the other $2000 get wheels

And save $1000 for install if you cant do it yourself, you could easily get it all install and tuned for about $1000

You will have a SICK ride after that
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by G I Love My Car
If I where you, this is how I would go,

Crawford Plenum & Strut Bar $500
Crawford Headers $950-Group Buy
Injen Exhaust $725
Test Pipes $180
EU and Autosport Harness $800
JWT Popcharger $90
JWT Clutch & Flywheel $725-Speacial at Avalon Racing
Plus or minus a few dollars thats $4000

Take the other $2000 get wheels

And save $1000 for install if you cant do it yourself, you could easily get it all install and tuned for about $1000

You will have a SICK ride after that
ok i dont want the crawford plenum because i think it is ugly aslo along with the aftermarket strut. second i love the greddy evo2 looks the best(its a definite), so there will be no injen. also im going to get the best sounding tp because i dont want rasp. also if i ever get a clutch and flywheel it will be all out and a tilton, not a barely different then stock jwt! lastly i dont want an ugly hot ram popcharger. but thanks for the info....basically all im asking for now is probably minor changes like headers and if there are any better test pipes or spacers
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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I think a well rounded setup is a much better idea than going straight to FI from the start - having a ton of power, but ultimately making the car much heavier and not really able to fully put the power down - not to mention being possibly not as reliable. Getting traction is going to be especially an issue with any sort of turbo

you can always go FI later and there will be more knowledge/parts/experience. Where the NA parts are what they are and really aren't going to get much better than they are currently

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