What a great message to send to LaBree and their practices as well.

I am only a consumer trying to let everyone know the truth about former contractors and capabilities and service. Nothing more.

Everyone on these boards slams products and companies all the time for inferior products an quality, in hopes of helping those from not making similar mistakes. Take it as you you will.

As I said in other posts, to each his own and buyer beware. Be careful. I'm just trying to educate, that's all.

If someone however wants to discount the level of expertise it actually takes to do quality work, for the vehicles we all take much pride in, and will spend our hard earned dollars on to customize, isn't it worth some justification and filtering of the good and bad?

Rick

 

If you were a consumer, that had a bad review of a product. Then you would do like anyone else would have done, started a thread saying: XY Brand part sucks!!! Cuz this and that reason. Not finding any test pipes / LaBree related thread and posting things like, LaBree test pipes suck now, buy these ones I'm selling!

That is completely diffrent.

I am not contesting the skill required to design and make a quality exhaust part. I agree with you, welding is a work of art. Its good to take pride in your work, I didn't say anything against that. I am not doubting the quality of your parts. From what I have seen so far, they look to be of outstanding quality. However I do think its rude and very unprofessional to be slamming other companies in attempts to push your own products. Let the real customers decide when enough people start getting them. So far I as long as many other people on this board and others are very happy with our LaBree test pipes. I have no reason to change to something else.

 

Sorry man - your wrong - totally!

You just don't get it...here's some history for you.

I AM a consumer - not just touting a product here. I was wronged by LaBree. I came to them and tried to work with them, because I wanted their people to work on my project...a very expensive one that would have brought them lots of money - my money, and a whole new market.

Danny, Tony and Mike were more than perfect - it was not them that were the problem!!! Brent did not want to entertain the work - which was creating a new system for my G - tinkering and making it right - then maybe sharing it with others - like is now available.

I brought the opportunity to him at no cost to him - all my dollar and I was shunned away in minutes. Brent probably doesn't even remember me to be honest - now that's service!!!

I didn't want him - I wanted his guys - but I had no choice as they worked for him. So when they left - I jumped on the opportunity to get what I always wanted and needed.

So don't go telling me I'm not a consumer. I'm not an owner of Fast Intentions - I am a consumer like you. I got horrible service at LaBree and am trying to let others know and beware of what may and is likely in store for them as well.

The ONLY reason LaBree did as well as they did from 2001 through 2005 is because of the inventors and talent that are now at Fast Intentions - Hands Down!

If you can't see throught that, and my reason for being here, after explaining it a dozen times...then chime out, not in already.

I'm almost sorry for trying to help! The only thing I have ever done, in all my research on these cars, is try to help others from my experiences - this is just another one.

I don't know what you do for a living, but I'm a consultant, and it's my job to educate my clients on their options, not sell them. I don't rep products in my business, I sell my time - so I can be truly independant. If you have taken the time to read any of my posts, away from the direct selling posts from our Group Buy threads, you'd know and see how objective I truly am. Selling a product is so not me at all.

I have done the research and spent the money to know why most of the bolt on's and exhaust systems and components work and don't, especially how they work together. It's that reason I can and do interject as much as I do. I am very passionate about what I know - especially when what I know to be fact, truly is.

Jump on the bus...don't throw stones at it....

Rick

 

ISMSOLUTIONS,

You are way overboard man. You go out of your way to talk trash. People will buy from you if your work speaks for itself, not from you bashing your competition.

If you acted the way you are on this forum with brent I can see why he turned you away.

I for one find your business ethics appalling and would NEVER put anything with your name on it on my car.

 

You know what's really the most interesting thing of all?

If I didn't have sponsor next to my name, you'd be totally different about all of it....

As I said before ...good luck and you've been warned....done here. You don't realize help and opportunity when it hits you in the face....like some others I know...

Rick

 

Your right, if you didnt have that there no one would give 2 ***** about you. The fact of the matter is YOU DO and by having that there you are representing that company and bring them into a negative light.

None of the other sponsors on this site act the way you have been. They might not all agree with each other, but they conduct themselves in a professional manor.

 

To clear things up with everyone! First off, if you are happy with the product and service you,ve recieved wheather it be Labree, H.K.S., Borla, Magnaflow, my company, etc. then great. As consumers you all deserve nothing but the best. In this instant I am not a consumer, but everywhere else I am. I know that I want to be taken care of. It makes me feel better about spending my money with whoever it may be. To touch on a few things. #1- I am not going to sit here and talk about Labree. I left for my reasons, and those are my reasons. If anyone wants to know they are more then welcome to contact me at the shop from a one on one stand point. But honestly its getting old hearing the constant back and forth about my company and his. If you are comfortable with his product, and his service then enjoy the product, and the same go's for any other company. My goal since I left is to give everyone what I thought his company lacked. Again my opinion. As far as Rick go's he treated Brent with respect, and Brent felt his project was not a priority. That left a bad taste in his mouth. The way I see it, it would have with anyone. I was open for 4 months before Rick even found me. I cannot stress this enough, he does not work for me. The product he reps belong to Fast Intentions. Not him! He may seem a little over board sometimes but he means well, with all of us. I know some of you may think my products run a little expensive. But you get what you pay for. I strive to give every single customer the best product and customer service they can get. You buy directly from the manufacturer, not a middle man. I build it, and ship it myself, with help from my two other guys. So when I get a call, I stop working to give that person my time. Wheather they buy from me or not. I dont rush them off of the phone, I awnser their questions until they are satisfied. To set it straight one last time. Do your research and buy from whoever you are comfortable with. For those who have boughten from me, thank you for you business. It is greatly appreciatted.

Tony(Fast Intentions)

 

If you're on that bus, then I don't wanna jump on it. Apparently your bus is just trying to crash and take out all the other buses. And that will only lead to the destruction of your own.

Take a look at this thread:
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....40#post2512759

This is how professionals conduct themselves in the marketplace.

 

Again, I am not bringing up anything about the products here. I am not here to argue whos parts are better than whos. To be very honest on that part though, I see high quality work in both cases. But my original intent was aimed towards ISMSOLUTIONS unprofessional, disrespectful and careless promotional tactics.

 

I can understand how you feel. Hopefully it is ended between you guys. The last thing I want is my company getting drug through the mud. That is why wrote what I wrote, it needed to stop there. But again, I can see where you are coming from.

Thanks, Tony

 

All -

I want to apologize for what has turned out. I never meant to get anyone mad or cause a problem. My intention was to just inform you all about an important recent change at LaBree and the birth that took place because of the change. Really there was nothing more intended.

Unfortunately - my personal experiences and passion got in the way as discussion turned as well, for this I apologize. I sincerely did not mean any harm to anyone here.

Rick

 

No hard feelings. I never wanted to start a fight or debate or anything. Just expressing my discontent, just as you were.

Your last comment respectfully said, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

 

Cool...hatchet buried

 

ISMSOLUTIONS:

Havent read this thread in a while, but about my comment on welding. I said it does not take a genius exhaust designer to make good welds. Yes you are right, welding is in fact an art, and no a monkey cannot weld very well. What I was really getting at is this. Labree is none for high-quality test pipes. Based on what? They are some of the only pipes offered in resonated form, which is a big plus. They were engineered to fit very well on a 350Z, and they have good welds. Now, what you were saying is that because Labree lost employees, that they lost completely all quality. First of all, did these employees take the blue-prints to the pipes so that the company cannot replicate? I doubt it. So to maintain the high quality Labree has been known for, all the company would need is some good welders right? You make it seem like welding is a skill you are born with. I have welded before, and if you give time and materials I'm sure I could produce some pretty nice test pipes.

All I'm doing is defending Labree to an extent. I'm sure you know more facts about the company than I do, but I think I make a pretty good point about the situation. Plus Labree can't defend themselves in this thread so I might as well do it... it is an internet forum afterall

 

Blurr350z -

No doubt and good points made as I posted as well.

The bottom line point I was making was the at those designers and likely the builders of the pipes on your car, depending of course when you bought them, are making those same parts and high quality systems at their own shop now.

Fast Intentions doesn't only make testpipes. They have a full true dual catback exhaust system and high flow CATS as well. The CATS are in the marketplace under a Group Buy now too.

They are constantly developing new products and inventing new solutions for our cars....leading the pack not following it.

Rick

 

First of all Fast Intentions products are great. I have a set of test pipes from them and have no rasp. The quality is great and fitment was perfect also. I was going to purchase a set from Labree, but when I called I got the im to busy vibe. I didnt call to hear excuses on how busy they are. Im sorry if you have a product in high demand maybe you should make a few more. Tony at Fast Intentions was totally willing to make my test pipes up in a decent time frame. I went with fast intentions on my purchase and im glad I did. So what if they talk down on others product **** if you saw the quality they sell you would to.

Sincerely Glen

 

First off, thanks Glen. We have already been over this about Labree vs. our products. The bottom line is that if he is making this product still, then it is a direct copy of Fast Intentions. Yes Labree has been around longer, but I was no employee, or anyone else that left for that matter. We were all independent contractors who brought all of our own designs to the table, and busted our asses for years while old man Labree sat on his *** in the office and got greedy. So like I said when we left we felt the quality and customer service came with us. I am willing to post pictures of my facility on the internet to show people what our shop looks like. I bet you 10 to 1 Labree wouldn't even consider that. So you ask why, I will tell you why, THE SHOP IS A DUMP. anyone who has been there knows that. It was tiny, cramped dirty, the list go's on. It was the last straw when an Audi customer had an appointment for thousands of dollars of exhaust work to be done, pulled in to the driveway saw the shop, sat there for a minute, hesitated and turned around and left. I saw it so I called him and I asked him if there was a problem, and he said there was no way he was leaving his car in that shop. Then he proceded to tell me it was a let down from what he expected. Lets be serious here, i couldn't afford to have another one of mine, or Danny's customers miss appointments like that. We knew it was time to create Fast Intentions. Take this how you will, this is just the way it went down. Thanks...Tony