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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Q: i/h/e/plenum sp/test p/mrev2/utec/tune and of course install
how much would that cost???

A: thats a lot of money.... mooooooooneys....

really, how much will it run???
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by spddmn124
Q: i/h/e/plenum sp/test p/mrev2/utec/tune and of course install
how much would that cost???

A: thats a lot of money.... mooooooooneys....

really, how much will it run???
Here's breakdown of mine

Pop Charger = $120
Nismo Headers = $1200
HKS Exhaust = $1300
Plenum Spacer = $260
HFC = $550
UTEC W/ Tune = $1500
Install = $1000-$1500

Just get F/I man
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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U got 35whp ...nice..but you also had headers..but you dont have the mrev2..only the spacer..but thats prolly irrelevent..
HFC instead of testies too...that might gimme an extra half hp..lol
Im gonna go F.I..but I wouldve needed the exhaust, testpipes, and maybe the utec anyway...the rest however I can still use and or sell..so Itll be ok.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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some people prefer the reliability of N/A eventhough the hp power ratio is crap compared to FI, so if you have enough money to get the hp your looking for without going FI i say do it.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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Im considerin juice..but will prolly just turbo it
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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every car will react differently to any set of mods

on my own car (04), I netted over a 30 whp gain between stock baseline and basic bolt ons

Intake (Gruppe-M)

Exhaust - Ultimate Racing High Flow cats, Ultimate Racing Y Pipe, Fujitsubo Ti catback

Unorthodox crank pulley, underdriven

UTEC - with alot of tuning

so, is it possible? absolutely...the UTEC, without a doubt is the single biggest hp/torque producing mod I had done.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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U got 35whp ...nice..but you also had headers..but you dont have the mrev2..only the spacer..but thats prolly irrelevent..
HFC instead of testies too...that might gimme an extra half hp..lol
Im gonna go F.I..but I wouldve needed the exhaust, testpipes, and maybe the utec anyway...the rest however I can still use and or sell..so Itll be ok.
Non rev-up motors don't need mrev2..just plenum spacer.
I would've probably dynoe about 5-7whp higher if I put on my 17" stockers, but still slow lol
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
UTEC - with alot of tuning

so, is it possible? absolutely...the UTEC, without a doubt is the single biggest hp/torque producing mod I had done.
+1

UTEC with tuning gave me biggest hp and tq gain.
Also, my peak torque comes in at 3500RPM compared to 4800RPM of stockers.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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Also - It's actually possible to lose whp with bolt-on's (without a tune) because of the leaned out condition they can cause... I personally don't consider a good tune 'optional'. And am quite fond of UTEC to this end...

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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
Also - It's actually possible to lose whp with bolt-on's (without a tune) because of the leaned out condition they can cause... I personally don't consider a good tune 'optional'. And am quite fond of UTEC to this end...
Yea it's possible to lose whp with bolt-ons.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
Also - It's actually possible to lose whp with bolt-on's (without a tune) because of the leaned out condition they can cause... I personally don't consider a good tune 'optional'. And am quite fond of UTEC to this end...
I'm a little surprised to hear the leaned out comment from you. Not because I disagree that bolt-on's will affect your afr, they certainly will, but I'm surprised because you have an '06 that leaned out. My own experience has been an initial increase in afr after each bolt-on, but after a few hundred miles the ecu would consistantly adapt and get pretty rich. I know the earlier models had more of a tendancy to get lean (still could go either way though), but I've seen several '06's report rich after mods in addition to my own.

Oh well, you just showed the saying that every car responds differently is true. And I do agree with you that tuning shouldn't really be considered an option, richer or leaner will leave power on the table as well as possibly make your car unsafe to operate in extreme cases.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Oh, I was just speaking in general about breather mods leaning out the factory tune. I've had a UTEC / tune since I started modding, so I really don't know what the 'untuned' affect would have been on my '06 in particular...

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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Im with all of u..coming from a turbo car i understand why tuning is important...did not think as much with n/a..but i see ur pts.

I however dont think it should cost as much for a n/a car to get tuned as a turbo/sc car...it should be cheaper..dont u agree...tuning shops round here do not.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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High compression, lots of air(plenum/headwork), upgraded injectors, and flawless tuning = N/A hp
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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tunning is tunning, your squeezing power out of the engine. doesnt matter if it takes 7 hours or 7 mins, your making extra power especially if the tuner knows what hes doing.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
UTEC - with alot of tuning

so, is it possible? absolutely...the UTEC, without a doubt is the single biggest hp/torque producing mod I had done.
Jeremey, Audible Mayhem, has said this as well. (Or atleast something like this.) Im just no too sure I can justify it, for someone who is just adding a couple N/A bolt-ons. I know it will get you some substantial gains and all, but at around $1100 with a tune, Im just not sure if its really worth it.

To me the best mods you can add is, a set of TP's, a plenum spacer, and a 06 airbox w/K&N (or some different intake w/proven gains.) After this, it just starts getting expensive. I would add a set of pulleys, but there is a lot of debate over these, as far as gains, and with the reliablitly of them as well.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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This car is horrible in its dollar to hp ratios in the aftermarket...truly my 190 hp maxima responded better to bolt ons...lol.

I bought all the parts so it really doesnt matter...the pieces are in motion.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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its not that bad. My breakdown is

$600-exhaust (HKS KO)
$850-Utec
$300-Topspeed Headers
$160-Turbo XS Testpipes
$270-AAM plenum spacer
$400-M-rev2

All the install were done by me and my buddy so there were 0 install cost. Many people on here pay through the nose for mods because they don't do their own work on their cars.

Add $350 for tunning and i am done. Also everything i have done so far also fits into my FI plans except for the headers. Some people will say "just save up for a turbo kit", but what they don't understand is that most of these components are essential in running a efficient turbo setup.

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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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just a note to the OP if you buy a UTEC online.. make sure the place you plan to get it tuned .. otherwise you are going to be stuck with that UTEC.. MRC is the best place in the Northeast to get your UTEC tuned and they will NOT tune your Online purchased UTEC
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Well i agree with the fact that. I will need most of these things in the future but to be arguinig over a net of 30 hp ...is crazy.

Why would mrc not tune an internet purchase utec...i have someone whose been tuning utecs for many years..so im ok. But if not online what do i have to do..buy it from them?...
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