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08-16-2009, 03:54 PM
#21
*Ding ding ding!!! We have a winner!
Most people fail to realize that it’s a combo of mods that makes gains… so many ppl go on and on about this does nothing, that does nothing – and of course by themselves on an otherwise stock car many do nothing. But if you complement certain breather mods with other proper tweaks, gains can be made.
Most people fail to realize that it’s a combo of mods that makes gains… so many ppl go on and on about this does nothing, that does nothing – and of course by themselves on an otherwise stock car many do nothing. But if you complement certain breather mods with other proper tweaks, gains can be made.
Your reply is, if even, modding 101. No kidding modding a car is a delicate balancing act and each part compliments one another, and a tune is what pulls everything together.
And i do believe JWT dynoed its intake on a stock DE...results were better than stock...and beat many other intakes out on the market as well...period. When the stock 06' box is dynoed against a JWT...then i will consider switching.
08-16-2009, 04:42 PM
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Why are you assuming none of us have any other mods?
Your reply is, if even, modding 101. No kidding modding a car is a delicate balancing act and each part compliments one another, and a tune is what pulls everything together.
And i do believe JWT dynoed its intake on a stock DE...results were better than stock...and beat many other intakes out on the market as well...period. When the stock 06' box is dynoed against a JWT...then i will consider switching.
Your reply is, if even, modding 101. No kidding modding a car is a delicate balancing act and each part compliments one another, and a tune is what pulls everything together.
And i do believe JWT dynoed its intake on a stock DE...results were better than stock...and beat many other intakes out on the market as well...period. When the stock 06' box is dynoed against a JWT...then i will consider switching.
re-read the post carefully genius and get back to me when you've mastered the concept of comprehension.
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08-16-2009, 07:37 PM
#23
Do you have any links to the JWT dynos? I hope those aren't manufacturer claims, since AFe is the king of those dynos. I have not seen any intakes provide anything over 2-3rwhp and some members (Alberto being one of them) had dynos where they had LOST power with other reputable brand intakes.
There was one guy (ISMsomthing) that had some Stillen airbox dynos but I don't remember what the final numbers were.
Most people simply will not waste the money to do a before and after dyno run for a mod that is universally accepted as not being that dramatic.
There was one guy (ISMsomthing) that had some Stillen airbox dynos but I don't remember what the final numbers were.
Most people simply will not waste the money to do a before and after dyno run for a mod that is universally accepted as not being that dramatic.
08-17-2009, 05:33 AM
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Please show me the independent dyno's which show these gains you speak of.. I surely hope its not from the manufacturer. Or perhaps you have a dyno to prove yourself?..
If you had a clue, you could search and find dyno's showing that short ram and exposed intakes loose power.. More notably, I believe Alberto had proved this many years ago.
I do agree with OCG35.. If you are tuned, you should make extra power with the right combination of mods.
08-17-2009, 05:45 AM
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Hi Noob..
Please show me the independent dyno's which show these gains you speak of.. I surely hope its not from the manufacturer. Or perhaps you have a dyno to prove yourself?..
If you had a clue, you could search and find dyno's showing that short ram and exposed intakes loose power.. More notably, I believe Alberto had proved this many years ago.
I do agree with OCG35.. If you are tuned, you should make extra power with the right combination of mods.
Please show me the independent dyno's which show these gains you speak of.. I surely hope its not from the manufacturer. Or perhaps you have a dyno to prove yourself?..
If you had a clue, you could search and find dyno's showing that short ram and exposed intakes loose power.. More notably, I believe Alberto had proved this many years ago.
I do agree with OCG35.. If you are tuned, you should make extra power with the right combination of mods.
08-17-2009, 08:17 AM
#28
Here ya go: First is DSport mag second is Nissan Performance Mag.
And also Nissan Performance Mag did a review and showed similar gains. Ive provided the link, unfortunetly the site is no longer up and although i searched hard, i couldnt find the dyno results they once had posted in the magazine. All i could dig up was this quote from the article:
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...ima_july02.php
The POP charger can be installed in about 20 minutes with a 10-mm ratchet and is an easy process even for the novice enthusiast. JWT’s design is one of extreme quality and it showed on the dyno. The peak hp gain was 8 hp (208.8 ) and 3 lb-ft of torque (230.3). These gains stayed fairly consistent past 4,000 RPMs with max hp gain of 10 at 6000 RPMs and max torque gain of 10 at 5500 RPMs. The JWT POP charger is a no brainier option for those interested in lightly modifying their car.
This is what i go by, sorry you douche bags on your high-horses have your own opinion based on what some dude posted on his own dyno results, that is no more credible to me than these magazines. But JWT prob payed them both off im sure.
...waiting for the "thats not credible because" reply.....
And also Nissan Performance Mag did a review and showed similar gains. Ive provided the link, unfortunetly the site is no longer up and although i searched hard, i couldnt find the dyno results they once had posted in the magazine. All i could dig up was this quote from the article:
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...ima_july02.php
The POP charger can be installed in about 20 minutes with a 10-mm ratchet and is an easy process even for the novice enthusiast. JWT’s design is one of extreme quality and it showed on the dyno. The peak hp gain was 8 hp (208.8 ) and 3 lb-ft of torque (230.3). These gains stayed fairly consistent past 4,000 RPMs with max hp gain of 10 at 6000 RPMs and max torque gain of 10 at 5500 RPMs. The JWT POP charger is a no brainier option for those interested in lightly modifying their car.
This is what i go by, sorry you douche bags on your high-horses have your own opinion based on what some dude posted on his own dyno results, that is no more credible to me than these magazines. But JWT prob payed them both off im sure.
...waiting for the "thats not credible because" reply.....
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08-17-2009, 08:30 AM
#30
*Ding ding ding!!! We have a winner!
Most people fail to realize that it’s a combo of mods that makes gains… so many ppl go on and on about this does nothing, that does nothing – and of course by themselves on an otherwise stock car many do nothing. But if you complement certain breather mods with other proper tweaks, gains can be made.
Most people fail to realize that it’s a combo of mods that makes gains… so many ppl go on and on about this does nothing, that does nothing – and of course by themselves on an otherwise stock car many do nothing. But if you complement certain breather mods with other proper tweaks, gains can be made.
Ok, i agree, whats the argument about?
08-17-2009, 08:47 AM
#32
Yes and no. If the JWT could adequately seal off the engine bay heat, you probably wouldn't lose any low end. But when you sit at a light on a hot day, it signifcantely raises the temp over the maf for the 1st 10-30 seconds. THAT will hurt the lowend via the ecu dialing back the ign curve due to the altered maf and probably IAT readings. Hydrazine has commented on this more than a few times. Again, it only affects the 1st 10-30 seconds until the IAT goes back to ambient but Tony has said a loss of 5-10+ hp during those seconds is not unusal. Not a big deal but that's where you want more of your hp/torque. And the idea of paying for an intake for low end powerloss FTL.
Hopefully, something like the Stillen that seals better (guessing) would give you no loss on the low and gains up on the mid/high range. Whether or not it's better/worse/same as the revup airbox is debatable.
Hopefully, something like the Stillen that seals better (guessing) would give you no loss on the low and gains up on the mid/high range. Whether or not it's better/worse/same as the revup airbox is debatable.
08-17-2009, 08:50 AM
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Here ya go: First is DSport mag second is Nissan Performance Mag.
And also Nissan Performance Mag did a review and showed similar gains. Ive provided the link, unfortunetly the site is no longer up and although i searched hard, i couldnt find the dyno results they once had posted in the magazine. All i could dig up was this quote from the article:
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...ima_july02.php
The POP charger can be installed in about 20 minutes with a 10-mm ratchet and is an easy process even for the novice enthusiast. JWT’s design is one of extreme quality and it showed on the dyno. The peak hp gain was 8 hp (208.8 ) and 3 lb-ft of torque (230.3). These gains stayed fairly consistent past 4,000 RPMs with max hp gain of 10 at 6000 RPMs and max torque gain of 10 at 5500 RPMs. The JWT POP charger is a no brainier option for those interested in lightly modifying their car.
This is what i go by, sorry you douche bags on your high-horses have your own opinion based on what some dude posted on his own dyno results, that is no more credible to me than these magazines. But JWT prob payed them both off im sure.
...waiting for the "thats not credible because" reply.....
And also Nissan Performance Mag did a review and showed similar gains. Ive provided the link, unfortunetly the site is no longer up and although i searched hard, i couldnt find the dyno results they once had posted in the magazine. All i could dig up was this quote from the article:
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...ima_july02.php
The POP charger can be installed in about 20 minutes with a 10-mm ratchet and is an easy process even for the novice enthusiast. JWT’s design is one of extreme quality and it showed on the dyno. The peak hp gain was 8 hp (208.8 ) and 3 lb-ft of torque (230.3). These gains stayed fairly consistent past 4,000 RPMs with max hp gain of 10 at 6000 RPMs and max torque gain of 10 at 5500 RPMs. The JWT POP charger is a no brainier option for those interested in lightly modifying their car.
This is what i go by, sorry you douche bags on your high-horses have your own opinion based on what some dude posted on his own dyno results, that is no more credible to me than these magazines. But JWT prob payed them both off im sure.
...waiting for the "thats not credible because" reply.....
And BTW, do you often drive with the hood open like that?
08-17-2009, 09:34 AM
#40
I agree, the gains/losses would be minimal at best. Idealy, since i agree with these others **** about other mods needed...which i have...i would like to find something with possibly MREV2 + spacer or one or the other...before intake and after. The more mods the better.
Last edited by GeauxLadyZ; 08-17-2009 at 09:38 AM.