Borla True Dual Question
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I have a Borla TD Exhaust with Megan Racing test pipes on my 03 Z right now. Although I love the sound I would like it to be a little louder. I have been thinking about removing the muffler ("the box") and throwing on straight pipes. Is this do-able? Has anyone done this on a Borla TD and how does/would it sound?
I'm also looking at dropping a bit of weight and I know the muffler weighs quite a bit.
Thanks
I'm also looking at dropping a bit of weight and I know the muffler weighs quite a bit.
Thanks
I've tried it on mine. I have resonated test pipes as well but I also have a magnaflow x pipe welded in where the original H pipe. I removed the rear muffler section and had 2 1/4" pipes put in to extend the exhaust out the back. So my exhaust went resonated test pipes/ magnaflow x-pipe/borla resonaters. The sound is Amazing. Drone cruising on the highway at 80 mph is similar to a car with a single n1 style muffler. under wot the car sounds like a complete beast. I had mine put on with the borla clamps so I can switch back and forth whenever I want.
If I feel motivated tomorrow I'll pull mine exhaust off, throw the pipes on and get you a sound clip.
If I feel motivated tomorrow I'll pull mine exhaust off, throw the pipes on and get you a sound clip.
Oh and it sounds nothing like a Z with a straight pipes. I have a friend with a straight pipe and it sounds terrible and is uncomfortably loud. My Z with no muffler is loud but the only person who ever complained was my gf
I have never favored buying a cat back exhaust, then doing a ghetto mode for more noise. If you want more noise why not a different cat back?
Last edited by davidv; Aug 28, 2011 at 09:13 PM.
I have a Borla TD Exhaust with Megan Racing test pipes on my 03 Z right now. Although I love the sound I would like it to be a little louder. I have been thinking about removing the muffler ("the box") and throwing on straight pipes. Is this do-able? Has anyone done this on a Borla TD and how does/would it sound?
I'm also looking at dropping a bit of weight and I know the muffler weighs quite a bit.
Thanks
I'm also looking at dropping a bit of weight and I know the muffler weighs quite a bit.
Thanks
Also,the cops will know you.
Check out a recent post from a guy that did a similar set up --has a video.
I think it was around 8-23.Guys name was Mario.
Sounded awful..had backfire!
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I've tried it on mine. I have resonated test pipes as well but I also have a magnaflow x pipe welded in where the original H pipe. I removed the rear muffler section and had 2 1/4" pipes put in to extend the exhaust out the back. So my exhaust went resonated test pipes/ magnaflow x-pipe/borla resonaters. The sound is Amazing. Drone cruising on the highway at 80 mph is similar to a car with a single n1 style muffler. under wot the car sounds like a complete beast. I had mine put on with the borla clamps so I can switch back and forth whenever I want.
If I feel motivated tomorrow I'll pull mine exhaust off, throw the pipes on and get you a sound clip.
If I feel motivated tomorrow I'll pull mine exhaust off, throw the pipes on and get you a sound clip.
It will sound like crap. The whole sound of the borla is from the muffler so when you remove that it won't sound like a borla at all. The resonators in the middle just keep the rasp down. They aren't what makes it sound good.
Just get rid of it and get a ricer exhaust if you want more noise. That's going to be about the result from just using the borla resonators.
weighs so much??? are you crazy? stock muffler weighs over 70lbs. The muffler portion of a borla weighs 32lbs (when i weighed mine). That's half the weight. It's not heavy.
It will sound like crap. The whole sound of the borla is from the muffler so when you remove that it won't sound like a borla at all. The resonators in the middle just keep the rasp down. They aren't what makes it sound good.
Just get rid of it and get a ricer exhaust if you want more noise. That's going to be about the result from just using the borla resonators.
It will sound like crap. The whole sound of the borla is from the muffler so when you remove that it won't sound like a borla at all. The resonators in the middle just keep the rasp down. They aren't what makes it sound good.
Just get rid of it and get a ricer exhaust if you want more noise. That's going to be about the result from just using the borla resonators.
I know b/c I actually weighed both the stock motor and borla on a hanging scale when I swapped them out.
The entire borla system saves ~10lbs over stock, but that includes the savings from the mid pipes and H-pipe vs Y-Pipe as well.
edit: Checked the log I've been keeping. I weighed the OEM muffler at 31.68lbs.
Last edited by doshoru; Aug 29, 2011 at 02:04 PM.
The whole muffler does NOT weigh 70 lbs...that's the entire exhaust.
I know b/c I actually weighed both the stock motor and borla on a hanging scale when I swapped them out.
The entire borla system saves ~10lbs over stock, but that includes the savings from the mid pipes and H-pipe vs Y-Pipe as well.
edit: Checked the log I've been keeping. I weighed the OEM muffler at 31.68lbs.
I know b/c I actually weighed both the stock motor and borla on a hanging scale when I swapped them out.
The entire borla system saves ~10lbs over stock, but that includes the savings from the mid pipes and H-pipe vs Y-Pipe as well.
edit: Checked the log I've been keeping. I weighed the OEM muffler at 31.68lbs.
This guy weighed his stock muffler at 35.5lbs:
https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exha...st-weight.html
350z dash tech has it at 34lbs
http://that-site/wiki/index.php/Exhaust_system_overview
36.8lbs:
https://my350z.com/forum/exterior-an...-pictures.html
Mine is an HR, not sure if that is why it weighs 3-5lbs less than the guys above.
https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exha...st-weight.html
350z dash tech has it at 34lbs
http://that-site/wiki/index.php/Exhaust_system_overview
36.8lbs:
https://my350z.com/forum/exterior-an...-pictures.html
Mine is an HR, not sure if that is why it weighs 3-5lbs less than the guys above.
Last edited by doshoru; Aug 30, 2011 at 10:10 AM.
here is a pic of the 2 mufflers in my garage side by side. There is no way you are telling me that stock muffler is the same weight as the borla.
I had to lay on my back and move them around. There is a noticeable difference in weight.
I'm not pulling my borla back off the car to weigh it but i'll weigh my stock one when i go home in a month or so.
I had to lay on my back and move them around. There is a noticeable difference in weight.
I'm not pulling my borla back off the car to weigh it but i'll weigh my stock one when i go home in a month or so.
I didn't say they were the same weight -- I said that:
1) The stock muffler does NOT weigh 70 lbs
2) I personally weighed the OEM HR muffler at 31.68lbs.
I've listed 3 other sources, one with pics on a scale, of an OEM muffler weighing between 32 and 37lbs. I'm not making this stuff up
1) The stock muffler does NOT weigh 70 lbs
2) I personally weighed the OEM HR muffler at 31.68lbs.
I've listed 3 other sources, one with pics on a scale, of an OEM muffler weighing between 32 and 37lbs. I'm not making this stuff up
Last edited by doshoru; Aug 30, 2011 at 10:22 AM.
I didn't say they were the same weight -- I said that:
1) The stock muffler does NOT weigh 70 lbs
2) I personally weighed the OEM HR muffler at 31.68lbs.
I've listed 3 other sources, one with pics on a scale, of an OEM muffler weighing between 32 and 37lbs. I'm not making this stuff up
1) The stock muffler does NOT weigh 70 lbs
2) I personally weighed the OEM HR muffler at 31.68lbs.
I've listed 3 other sources, one with pics on a scale, of an OEM muffler weighing between 32 and 37lbs. I'm not making this stuff up

edit: I'm not sure I'd say it's much less than 20lbs, though. Since the oem muffler is definitely a more awkward size, it may make it seem even heavier than it really is.
Last edited by doshoru; Aug 30, 2011 at 10:30 AM.
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