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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Thx. Wish everything was better explained. They'd be installed and running already lol. Ah well.

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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 0jiggy0
Thx. Wish everything was better explained. They'd be installed and running already lol. Ah well.
512z has the same stepped w/o reducer on his HR.

PPE 370z headers look similar to SG design with the step closer to the heads.

Look at his dyno sheet you should be good since you have a HR.
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 0jiggy0
KingBaby do yours have a reducer?
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I went back and this was what was finalize for me I believe:

kingbaby- "HR stepped coated chrome"
From the looks of my headers looks like just that stepped no reducer?

Then many asked if the reducer was extra which it isn't, so I think I asked for it. At this point don't care as they are already on the car.
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 06:06 AM
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Yep you have the same. Wish I would have seen that before.
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 08:03 AM
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Dammit! Mine has a reducer, and it's an HR. Not installed yet...
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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You HR guys should be good look at 512z dyno he has the same headers on his HR.

Doshuru you should be good also my dyno between stepped and non stepped was not much difference up top.

The non stepped with reducer gave me the biggest gains on the lowend 15-20 hp/tq.

Ojiggy if you want I can take better pics of my reducers to help give your shop a idea.

I just unbolt my ypipe slide them in and bolt back up. The dyno on the previous page is what they did for me on the stepped headers w/o reducer.

I think the closer the reducer is to the collector the bigger the impact.

Since you guys can tune both intake and exhaust cam timing the reducer may not be needed for you guys.
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 12:49 PM
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denchan -- I have an 07 HR.
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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Maybe somebody got a stepped set by mistake that can trade you
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 05:37 AM
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Denchan:

I'm actually talking about the reducer, not the step -- based on what jiggy said earlier:

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Well I got in touch with RDZ and Joe says PPE is now saying HR's respond better to not having a reducer at the merge.

Edit: So Paul from PPe just called me back. The original HR headers they designed are as shown on their site stepped and with NO reducer. Actually the DE is the only header they offer with a reducer. The 370, ISF, celica, etc all dont have reducers. He basically attributed it to the way each motor breathes. I may do a test like Denchan did with reducers, but I'll trust PPe's word for now. He sounds like a pretty knowledgeable guy.
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 06:17 AM
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^- photo is too far away for me to be certain, but it looks like you have a nonstepped set.

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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 06:35 AM
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I also think that's a non-stepped set with reducer, just like mine.
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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Those are non stepped w/reducer Dos. The step is where the piping goes straight. Look at Kingsbaby pics.
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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Yeah, I know what they are, and they are what I ordered. I just thought that it had been settled that non-stepped with reducer was best. I suppose I knew that I had an HR so my results might be different, so I can't complain, really. Being an early adopter always has its risks! Just sucks to now hear PPE saying that the HR works best with the exact opposite of what I got....stepped without reducer, vs non-stepped with.
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by doshoru
Yeah, I know what they are, and they are what I ordered. I just thought that it had been settled that non-stepped with reducer was best. I suppose I knew that I had an HR so my results might be different, so I can't complain, really. Being an early adopter always has its risks! Just sucks to now hear PPE saying that the HR works best with the exact opposite of what I got....stepped without reducer, vs non-stepped with.
Never been tested non stepped on a HR only stepped. Who knows you may get better response SE with the non stepped w/ reducer on a HR.

If it makes you feel better FI longtubes for the 370z and G37 are not stepped and have similar gains
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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I may have to get a set of these reducers made to try out
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 03:27 PM
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Im going to do that just for nerd testing purposes. Maybe have denchan send me some lol.

Im going to search for injectors also. Ive seen 2 hr's that needed injectors after this mod. Sometimes we get lucky and GTR injectors pop up for cheap.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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So both stock headers are out. Pass side is bolted in. Between the steering rod and the tranny it feels like I can't physically fit the headers between them. Any tips?

Edit: I got it, man what a nightmare. The stock studs are definetly the enemy on this.

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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 0jiggy0
So both stock headers are out. Pass side is bolted in. Between the steering rod and the tranny it feels like I can't physically fit the headers between them. Any tips?

Edit: I got it, man what a nightmare. The stock studs are definetly the enemy on this.
I posted a few tips
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 05:44 PM
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Step in, Step out, reducer , no reducer . Been trying to catch up but getting bored of this readin every single page LOL

Super happy with mine no complains of the gain and the sound. Love the sound of these headers.

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