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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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anyone have inf on this?
can't find anything on their website, and the search function is down(i suppose?)
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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I ordered the Gruppe-M for my car but after waiting for 4 months I finally canceled the order (did not order from any of the vendors here). The Gruppe-M looks sweet, expect the tubing from the scoop to the box- looks like a dryer hose. The K&N Typhoon is an almost identical design at 1/3 the price.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 02:55 AM
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Looks overpriced to me. Apart from being Carbon, what else does it offer??? I think the guys have dyno proved that CAI's dont make a great deal of power on this car.
If it were me, I'd get the pop charger, some gains, and great sound.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 04:45 AM
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Search!

It is high quality. Much better than the K&N in terms of quality and build. Search, there is plenty of info on this site.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by 35ounces
Search!

It is high quality. Much better than the K&N in terms of quality and build. Search, there is plenty of info on this site.
you try to search... its called BROKEN
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by 35ounces
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It is high quality. Much better than the K&N in terms of quality and build. Search, there is plenty of info on this site.
No doubt the Gruppe-M is higher quality- but design-wise they are almost identical.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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Power wise, what does it offer?? maybe a couple of BHP. From the reviews I've read it only sounds slightly louder than stock, and thats near the redline.
I love carbon stuff, but the duct hosing into the unit really lets down what is effectively a K&N cone in a fancy box.
I'd go for the K&N if you really want 'CAI', or popcharger.
Each to their own.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by failsafe
No doubt the Gruppe-M is higher quality- but design-wise they are almost identical.
Design wise its COMPLETELY Different, first take a look at both of the intakes. I know I have one.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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I have one as well and could not be happier

First off, Gruppe M is owned by K&N IIRC, however they are 2 totally different units. I know on ym car, gains were in the 6-7 hp range ( I have to look for the dyno's as its the first thing I did to me car), and I have had no ill effects despite using it throughout the winter in snow and rain.
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Originally posted by Ultimateone
Design wise its COMPLETELY Different, first take a look at both of the intakes. I know I have one.
By design I mean that they both have scoops that "ram" air to a filter underneath the hood. I realize the actual air filters are completely different. I probably should have used the term "theory" instead of design.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Z1 Performance
I have one as well and could not be happier

First off, Gruppe M is owned by K&N IIRC, however they are 2 totally different units. I know on ym car, gains were in the 6-7 hp range ( I have to look for the dyno's as its the first thing I did to me car), and I have had no ill effects despite using it throughout the winter in snow and rain.
do u happend to have a dyno sheet?
so the set up is like a ram air setup?
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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for ppl above who mentioned abouit k&N,
do they have the ram air setup ?
if so, which one and anybody has it?
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