gruppem carbon fiber CAI
03-24-2004, 09:53 PM
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I ordered the Gruppe-M for my car but after waiting for 4 months I finally canceled the order (did not order from any of the vendors here). The Gruppe-M looks sweet, expect the tubing from the scoop to the box- looks like a dryer hose. The K&N Typhoon is an almost identical design at 1/3 the price.
03-25-2004, 02:55 AM
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Looks overpriced to me. Apart from being Carbon, what else does it offer??? I think the guys have dyno proved that CAI's dont make a great deal of power on this car.
If it were me, I'd get the pop charger, some gains, and great sound.
If it were me, I'd get the pop charger, some gains, and great sound.
03-25-2004, 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by 35ounces
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It is high quality. Much better than the K&N in terms of quality and build. Search, there is plenty of info on this site.
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It is high quality. Much better than the K&N in terms of quality and build. Search, there is plenty of info on this site.
03-25-2004, 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by 35ounces
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It is high quality. Much better than the K&N in terms of quality and build. Search, there is plenty of info on this site.
Search!
It is high quality. Much better than the K&N in terms of quality and build. Search, there is plenty of info on this site.
03-25-2004, 09:42 AM
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Power wise, what does it offer?? maybe a couple of BHP. From the reviews I've read it only sounds slightly louder than stock, and thats near the redline.
I love carbon stuff, but the duct hosing into the unit really lets down what is effectively a K&N cone in a fancy box.
I'd go for the K&N if you really want 'CAI', or popcharger.
Each to their own.
I love carbon stuff, but the duct hosing into the unit really lets down what is effectively a K&N cone in a fancy box.
I'd go for the K&N if you really want 'CAI', or popcharger.
Each to their own.
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Originally posted by failsafe
No doubt the Gruppe-M is higher quality- but design-wise they are almost identical.
No doubt the Gruppe-M is higher quality- but design-wise they are almost identical.
03-25-2004, 01:44 PM
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I have one as well and could not be happier
First off, Gruppe M is owned by K&N IIRC, however they are 2 totally different units. I know on ym car, gains were in the 6-7 hp range ( I have to look for the dyno's as its the first thing I did to me car), and I have had no ill effects despite using it throughout the winter in snow and rain.
First off, Gruppe M is owned by K&N IIRC, however they are 2 totally different units. I know on ym car, gains were in the 6-7 hp range ( I have to look for the dyno's as its the first thing I did to me car), and I have had no ill effects despite using it throughout the winter in snow and rain.
03-25-2004, 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Ultimateone
Design wise its COMPLETELY Different, first take a look at both of the intakes. I know I have one.
Design wise its COMPLETELY Different, first take a look at both of the intakes. I know I have one.
03-25-2004, 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Z1 Performance
I have one as well and could not be happier
First off, Gruppe M is owned by K&N IIRC, however they are 2 totally different units. I know on ym car, gains were in the 6-7 hp range ( I have to look for the dyno's as its the first thing I did to me car), and I have had no ill effects despite using it throughout the winter in snow and rain.
I have one as well and could not be happier
First off, Gruppe M is owned by K&N IIRC, however they are 2 totally different units. I know on ym car, gains were in the 6-7 hp range ( I have to look for the dyno's as its the first thing I did to me car), and I have had no ill effects despite using it throughout the winter in snow and rain.
so the set up is like a ram air setup?
thanks
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