Oil Consumption
#61
Originally Posted by Durden76
You can't do this type of thing over the phone. You need to take the car in (preferably to another dealer than where this idiot works) so that you can start documenting everything and get any potential problems resolved on their dime rather than yours. BTW the service advisor you spoke with is clearly smoking something. Why would Nissan intentionally ship their cars with oil that will get consumed rapidly? Makes no sense at all.
#62
Originally Posted by thirty5ounces
i have same problem on my 03, burning oil and nissan couldnt figure out, let me know how the tune goes, what mods do you have?
#64
Well, I hit my first 1K on my 06 Base today. Checked the dip stick and the oil was barely above the "L" mark. I put in one quart to get it up to the full mark.
So unless the dealer forgot to fill up the fluids when I picked up my Z two weeks ago, I'd have to say my Z is going through 1 quart of oil per 1K.
What recourse do we Z owners have? Or is this something we just have to continue doing. Putting in 1 quart per 1K.
Honestly that doesn't bug me, but it makes me wonder, where's that quart going? Is it being blown out the pipes or where? Is there dangerous build up of excess oil somewhere in my car or what?
So unless the dealer forgot to fill up the fluids when I picked up my Z two weeks ago, I'd have to say my Z is going through 1 quart of oil per 1K.
What recourse do we Z owners have? Or is this something we just have to continue doing. Putting in 1 quart per 1K.
Honestly that doesn't bug me, but it makes me wonder, where's that quart going? Is it being blown out the pipes or where? Is there dangerous build up of excess oil somewhere in my car or what?
#65
Originally Posted by 50 Freak
Is it being blown out the pipes or where? Is there dangerous build up of excess oil somewhere in my car or what?
#66
Originally Posted by 50 Freak
Well, I hit my first 1K on my 06 Base today. Checked the dip stick and the oil was barely above the "L" mark. I put in one quart to get it up to the full mark.
So unless the dealer forgot to fill up the fluids when I picked up my Z two weeks ago, I'd have to say my Z is going through 1 quart of oil per 1K.
What recourse do we Z owners have? Or is this something we just have to continue doing. Putting in 1 quart per 1K.
Honestly that doesn't bug me, but it makes me wonder, where's that quart going? Is it being blown out the pipes or where? Is there dangerous build up of excess oil somewhere in my car or what?
So unless the dealer forgot to fill up the fluids when I picked up my Z two weeks ago, I'd have to say my Z is going through 1 quart of oil per 1K.
What recourse do we Z owners have? Or is this something we just have to continue doing. Putting in 1 quart per 1K.
Honestly that doesn't bug me, but it makes me wonder, where's that quart going? Is it being blown out the pipes or where? Is there dangerous build up of excess oil somewhere in my car or what?
With my new short block installed, the service guy said that the car might consume about 1 quart of oil on the first 1,000 miles until the rings are seated but after that should diminish considerably (return to normal).
If you use another quart at your 2,000 mile mark, then I would worry.
#68
Originally Posted by Chad68
With my new short block installed, the service guy said that the car might consume about 1 quart of oil on the first 1,000 miles until the rings are seated but after that should diminish considerably (return to normal).
If you use another quart at your 2,000 mile mark, then I would worry.
If you use another quart at your 2,000 mile mark, then I would worry.
I am just curious what the logic is here; the tolerances are so tight this is not a factory 1972 Chevy 350 V8 where then I would buy the argument that rings need seating and likely would consume a quart of oil 1000 miles into break-in, and more ongoing - the rings were never that tight.
His justification seems not logical and more CYA in case you have the same issue and he buys himself 1000-2000 miles of breathing room. Very curious...good luck, watch it like a hawk. I suggest photos on the dipstick when you check it over time. While you certainly can fake anything, photos showing progression of oil level drop over time will help you should you have to take more drastic measures. Keep meticulous records.
#69
I would like to give some hope to 06 owners.
My Z only has 3800 miles and I did the first oil chnage at 700 miles at the dealer(it was free). The current oil has just over 3000 miles and I beat my car pretty good. It's not my daily driver so everytime I take it out it's to have some fun. I also did a trackday at Thunderhill raceway. My Z has used only about 25% of a 1 quart bottle. That's nothing considering how I've driven the car.
Maybe I don't have enough miles yet, so we'll see. I have another trackday coming up and it will have fresh motul synthetic by then.
I'll report back if any consuption occurs. I have my fingers crossed so that it won't burn much. I would say that with trackdays and hard driving 1qt per 3k miles should be normal.
Good luck to those of you dealing with this.
My Z only has 3800 miles and I did the first oil chnage at 700 miles at the dealer(it was free). The current oil has just over 3000 miles and I beat my car pretty good. It's not my daily driver so everytime I take it out it's to have some fun. I also did a trackday at Thunderhill raceway. My Z has used only about 25% of a 1 quart bottle. That's nothing considering how I've driven the car.
Maybe I don't have enough miles yet, so we'll see. I have another trackday coming up and it will have fresh motul synthetic by then.
I'll report back if any consuption occurs. I have my fingers crossed so that it won't burn much. I would say that with trackdays and hard driving 1qt per 3k miles should be normal.
Good luck to those of you dealing with this.
#70
Originally Posted by mistico
I would like to give some hope to 06 owners.
My Z only has 3800 miles and I did the first oil chnage at 700 miles at the dealer(it was free). The current oil has just over 3000 miles and I beat my car pretty good. It's not my daily driver so everytime I take it out it's to have some fun. I also did a trackday at Thunderhill raceway. My Z has used only about 25% of a 1 quart bottle. That's nothing considering how I've driven the car.
Maybe I don't have enough miles yet, so we'll see. I have another trackday coming up and it will have fresh motul synthetic by then.
I'll report back if any consuption occurs. I have my fingers crossed so that it won't burn much. I would say that with trackdays and hard driving 1qt per 3k miles should be normal.
Good luck to those of you dealing with this.
My Z only has 3800 miles and I did the first oil chnage at 700 miles at the dealer(it was free). The current oil has just over 3000 miles and I beat my car pretty good. It's not my daily driver so everytime I take it out it's to have some fun. I also did a trackday at Thunderhill raceway. My Z has used only about 25% of a 1 quart bottle. That's nothing considering how I've driven the car.
Maybe I don't have enough miles yet, so we'll see. I have another trackday coming up and it will have fresh motul synthetic by then.
I'll report back if any consuption occurs. I have my fingers crossed so that it won't burn much. I would say that with trackdays and hard driving 1qt per 3k miles should be normal.
Good luck to those of you dealing with this.
John
#71
Originally Posted by 50 Freak
Well, I hit my first 1K on my 06 Base today. Checked the dip stick and the oil was barely above the "L" mark. I put in one quart to get it up to the full mark.
So unless the dealer forgot to fill up the fluids when I picked up my Z two weeks ago, I'd have to say my Z is going through 1 quart of oil per 1K.
What recourse do we Z owners have? Or is this something we just have to continue doing. Putting in 1 quart per 1K.
Honestly that doesn't bug me, but it makes me wonder, where's that quart going? Is it being blown out the pipes or where? Is there dangerous build up of excess oil somewhere in my car or what?
So unless the dealer forgot to fill up the fluids when I picked up my Z two weeks ago, I'd have to say my Z is going through 1 quart of oil per 1K.
What recourse do we Z owners have? Or is this something we just have to continue doing. Putting in 1 quart per 1K.
Honestly that doesn't bug me, but it makes me wonder, where's that quart going? Is it being blown out the pipes or where? Is there dangerous build up of excess oil somewhere in my car or what?
Take it to your dealer, have them start an oil consumption test, don't let them bs you. And document everything.
#72
I agree, the dealership should look at it, and document everything. Find a dealership that wont push you around, but respects you and listens to your conserns.
My 03 z33 doesnt burn a drop of oil at 18,000 miles. Did a recent oil change, and measured the oil out of the engine in a beaker, and it was right at the 5 qrt line. It also did not burn any oil during break in.
My dad also owns a G35 and did the break in him self using dyno oil and switched to mobile 1 after 10k miles, it never burned, nor burns now a drop of oil either.
My 03 z33 doesnt burn a drop of oil at 18,000 miles. Did a recent oil change, and measured the oil out of the engine in a beaker, and it was right at the 5 qrt line. It also did not burn any oil during break in.
My dad also owns a G35 and did the break in him self using dyno oil and switched to mobile 1 after 10k miles, it never burned, nor burns now a drop of oil either.
#73
So I called three different dealers and two said they haven't heard anything about the oil consumption problems on the Z and that to drive it for about 3,000 miles and then if I am noticing the same problem then bring it in to start tests.
The third dealer said they have heard something on a very small number of Zs, but that after the driver had put on 3-4,000 miles the problem dissappeared.
They recommended to drive 3K miles (checking and filling oil as you go). Do your 3K oil change and you should notice there is no problem after that.
Anyone think this is a load of crap? or do the Z's really require a long 3-4K break in period in which it does consume a lot of oil.
The third dealer said they have heard something on a very small number of Zs, but that after the driver had put on 3-4,000 miles the problem dissappeared.
They recommended to drive 3K miles (checking and filling oil as you go). Do your 3K oil change and you should notice there is no problem after that.
Anyone think this is a load of crap? or do the Z's really require a long 3-4K break in period in which it does consume a lot of oil.
#74
Originally Posted by 50 Freak
So I called three different dealers and two said they haven't heard anything about the oil consumption problems on the Z and that to drive it for about 3,000 miles and then if I am noticing the same problem then bring it in to start tests.
The third dealer said they have heard something on a very small number of Zs, but that after the driver had put on 3-4,000 miles the problem dissappeared.
They recommended to drive 3K miles (checking and filling oil as you go). Do your 3K oil change and you should notice there is no problem after that.
Anyone think this is a load of crap? or do the Z's really require a long 3-4K break in period in which it does consume a lot of oil.
The third dealer said they have heard something on a very small number of Zs, but that after the driver had put on 3-4,000 miles the problem dissappeared.
They recommended to drive 3K miles (checking and filling oil as you go). Do your 3K oil change and you should notice there is no problem after that.
Anyone think this is a load of crap? or do the Z's really require a long 3-4K break in period in which it does consume a lot of oil.
3-4k break-in with burning oil? Crap.
#75
It might be a good idea to get an oil analysis done. $20.00 www.blackstone-labs.com next time you change your oil. They can tell you allot about whats going on inside your engine.
#76
oh the joys! just talked to my dealer today and they said the engine is on backorder , with no ETA whatsoever. meanwhile my baby sits outside in the sun, in the service lot.
how can the vq be on backorder? seems like they should have plenty of them around...
how can the vq be on backorder? seems like they should have plenty of them around...
#79
next chapter
Those who have been following the Oil Consumption posting know that i have had several issues with my 06 zr....
Picked the Z up monday with COMPLETE ENGINE replacement. (third engine for the car if you are following).Parked it in the driveway monday night, go to take my 10 year old to school on tuesday and she stands in the driveway laughing and screaming "Daddy we are getting a new car"
Yes it pissed oil all over the place.
Bring it back to the shop wednesday morning and there it sits..... Oil cooler was not replaced and it sprung a leak.....
called the folks at www.lemonlawaz.com and they are handling it now..
they just settled another case in AZ for a gentlemen with a leased Z
Option one: replace car with new car and pay "usage fee" no clue what that will be. Register new car, paper work............. etc
Option two: Case out of car...... They pay everything i put into minus, yes "usage fee". Then i need to find a new car that is not a Z... not a good option.... Love the looks and handling of the ZR
Option three: Have the car fixed and take a payout for my headaches.... Warranty stays in place so if i need new engine in another 3k miles then it gets replaced..... I am thinking this is the way to go.....
Anyway, guys stay on top of your issues..... if you are in AZ check out www.lemonlawaz.com and talk to Ian.
I will update you all after Nissan USA makes me a offer in writting.
Yes i am in another rental for now..............
Picked the Z up monday with COMPLETE ENGINE replacement. (third engine for the car if you are following).Parked it in the driveway monday night, go to take my 10 year old to school on tuesday and she stands in the driveway laughing and screaming "Daddy we are getting a new car"
Yes it pissed oil all over the place.
Bring it back to the shop wednesday morning and there it sits..... Oil cooler was not replaced and it sprung a leak.....
called the folks at www.lemonlawaz.com and they are handling it now..
they just settled another case in AZ for a gentlemen with a leased Z
Option one: replace car with new car and pay "usage fee" no clue what that will be. Register new car, paper work............. etc
Option two: Case out of car...... They pay everything i put into minus, yes "usage fee". Then i need to find a new car that is not a Z... not a good option.... Love the looks and handling of the ZR
Option three: Have the car fixed and take a payout for my headaches.... Warranty stays in place so if i need new engine in another 3k miles then it gets replaced..... I am thinking this is the way to go.....
Anyway, guys stay on top of your issues..... if you are in AZ check out www.lemonlawaz.com and talk to Ian.
I will update you all after Nissan USA makes me a offer in writting.
Yes i am in another rental for now..............
#80
Originally Posted by Bmacs
Those who have been following the Oil Consumption posting know that i have had several issues with my 06 zr....
Picked the Z up monday with COMPLETE ENGINE replacement. (third engine for the car if you are following).Parked it in the driveway monday night, go to take my 10 year old to school on tuesday and she stands in the driveway laughing and screaming "Daddy we are getting a new car"
Yes it pissed oil all over the place.
Bring it back to the shop wednesday morning and there it sits..... Oil cooler was not replaced and it sprung a leak.....
called the folks at www.lemonlawaz.com and they are handling it now..
they just settled another case in AZ for a gentlemen with a leased Z
Option one: replace car with new car and pay "usage fee" no clue what that will be. Register new car, paper work............. etc
Option two: Case out of car...... They pay everything i put into minus, yes "usage fee". Then i need to find a new car that is not a Z... not a good option.... Love the looks and handling of the ZR
Option three: Have the car fixed and take a payout for my headaches.... Warranty stays in place so if i need new engine in another 3k miles then it gets replaced..... I am thinking this is the way to go.....
Anyway, guys stay on top of your issues..... if you are in AZ check out www.lemonlawaz.com and talk to Ian.
I will update you all after Nissan USA makes me a offer in writting.
Yes i am in another rental for now..............
Picked the Z up monday with COMPLETE ENGINE replacement. (third engine for the car if you are following).Parked it in the driveway monday night, go to take my 10 year old to school on tuesday and she stands in the driveway laughing and screaming "Daddy we are getting a new car"
Yes it pissed oil all over the place.
Bring it back to the shop wednesday morning and there it sits..... Oil cooler was not replaced and it sprung a leak.....
called the folks at www.lemonlawaz.com and they are handling it now..
they just settled another case in AZ for a gentlemen with a leased Z
Option one: replace car with new car and pay "usage fee" no clue what that will be. Register new car, paper work............. etc
Option two: Case out of car...... They pay everything i put into minus, yes "usage fee". Then i need to find a new car that is not a Z... not a good option.... Love the looks and handling of the ZR
Option three: Have the car fixed and take a payout for my headaches.... Warranty stays in place so if i need new engine in another 3k miles then it gets replaced..... I am thinking this is the way to go.....
Anyway, guys stay on top of your issues..... if you are in AZ check out www.lemonlawaz.com and talk to Ian.
I will update you all after Nissan USA makes me a offer in writting.
Yes i am in another rental for now..............