View Poll Results: Front tire feathering
I have an '03, and NO feathering
78
11.19%
I have an '03, HAD feathering, but appears to be solved
94
13.49%
I have an '03 and have RECURRING feathering
331
47.49%
I have an '04, and NO feathering
92
13.20%
I have an '04, HAD feathering, but appears to be solved
28
4.02%
I have an '04 and have RECURRING feathering
74
10.62%
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Feathering poll
12-03-2004 | 03:10 PM
#182
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From: Atlanta
Well I faxed my stuff to Krohn & Moss... Nissan is pretty smart, if they don't admit anything is wrong with the car or the tires then they can't be hassled by the Lemon Law issue. Now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I sure as sh*t don't want to be putting tires on this car every 10K miles.
Matt
Hello. I received your documents regarding your Nissan. Unfortunately, we need to establish 3 verified repairs to have a valid lemon law claim. Nissan is also a tough manufacturer and we need a strong case. Although you have 2 repair visits, these orders show Nissan will not cover the tire issue and there is only one alignment issue. You may, however, have a case in the near future, so we encourage you to return to any Nissan dealer with continued problems and we will follow up with you at a later date. Should you obtain three valid repairs, please send those documents to our immediate attention.
Matt
12-03-2004 | 04:13 PM
#183
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From: Florida
Originally posted by snoby
Well I faxed my stuff to Krohn & Moss... Nissan is pretty smart, if they don't admit anything is wrong with the car or the tires then they can't be hassled by the Lemon Law issue. Now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I sure as sh*t don't want to be putting tires on this car every 10K miles.
Matt
Well I faxed my stuff to Krohn & Moss... Nissan is pretty smart, if they don't admit anything is wrong with the car or the tires then they can't be hassled by the Lemon Law issue. Now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I sure as sh*t don't want to be putting tires on this car every 10K miles.
Matt
Keep me posted
-C
12-04-2004 | 03:51 AM
#184
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From: Big Canoe, Georgia
Originally posted by frostyrock7c
I had feathering with the stock 17's on my 04 Enthusiast, but when I changed to 245/45ZR17's and 275/40ZR18's with an alignment, the problem was solved
I had feathering with the stock 17's on my 04 Enthusiast, but when I changed to 245/45ZR17's and 275/40ZR18's with an alignment, the problem was solved
12-06-2004 | 04:32 AM
#185
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From: Lexington, Kentucky
Originally posted by snoby
Well I faxed my stuff to Krohn & Moss... Nissan is pretty smart, if they don't admit anything is wrong with the car or the tires then they can't be hassled by the Lemon Law issue. Now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I sure as sh*t don't want to be putting tires on this car every 10K miles.
Nissan's admission of anything wrong: Nissan sent me a letter stating the front tires may need replacement due to incorrect toe-in from the factory. I immediately had them replaced on May 21, 2004. The replacement tires are now worn, similar to the 1st (original set). The tires are not the only problem.
Plus Nissan extended the Warranty Period for 2 more years.
Plus the Nissan Dealer knew back in early 2003, that the 350Z was experiencing a problem with the tire/alignment. However, that problem did'nt prevent them from selling me a "flawed vehicle". A problem of having to replace tires prematurely. What will hurt Nissan is when they can't sell their vehicles. I truly enjoyed my Z except for the future tire maintenance issue. At 30,000 miles, I felt I was forced to trade, and Nissan should be responsible for selling me a vehicle with a Design Flaw".
Matt
Well I faxed my stuff to Krohn & Moss... Nissan is pretty smart, if they don't admit anything is wrong with the car or the tires then they can't be hassled by the Lemon Law issue. Now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I sure as sh*t don't want to be putting tires on this car every 10K miles.
Nissan's admission of anything wrong: Nissan sent me a letter stating the front tires may need replacement due to incorrect toe-in from the factory. I immediately had them replaced on May 21, 2004. The replacement tires are now worn, similar to the 1st (original set). The tires are not the only problem.
Plus Nissan extended the Warranty Period for 2 more years.
Plus the Nissan Dealer knew back in early 2003, that the 350Z was experiencing a problem with the tire/alignment. However, that problem did'nt prevent them from selling me a "flawed vehicle". A problem of having to replace tires prematurely. What will hurt Nissan is when they can't sell their vehicles. I truly enjoyed my Z except for the future tire maintenance issue. At 30,000 miles, I felt I was forced to trade, and Nissan should be responsible for selling me a vehicle with a Design Flaw".
Matt
12-06-2004 | 07:18 AM
#186
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From: Tennessee
Originally posted by Don ZZZ
Matt,
Which firm did you file your claim with?
Matt,
Which firm did you file your claim with?
Don,
It was www.wattslawfirm.com. I also received a message from an Atlanta consumer protection firm that I had faxed my info to stating that they were willing to take my case at no cost to me. I am going to look into that also. Watts Law Frim seemed very good over the phone, but they need more numbers from us. They said they would like to have at least one car owner in every state before they go to court.
12-06-2004 | 07:22 AM
#187
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From: Tennessee
Originally posted by snoby
Well I faxed my stuff to Krohn & Moss... Nissan is pretty smart, if they don't admit anything is wrong with the car or the tires then they can't be hassled by the Lemon Law issue. Now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I sure as sh*t don't want to be putting tires on this car every 10K miles.
My thoughts are, in court, Nissan "admitted" or "acknowledged" the problem by sending out the letters to us 2003 owners notifying us to have the problem checked out by our dealers. Thus "admitting", but not fixing (because it must be a design flaw), just "band aidin" us until we are out of warranty
Matt
Well I faxed my stuff to Krohn & Moss... Nissan is pretty smart, if they don't admit anything is wrong with the car or the tires then they can't be hassled by the Lemon Law issue. Now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I sure as sh*t don't want to be putting tires on this car every 10K miles.
My thoughts are, in court, Nissan "admitted" or "acknowledged" the problem by sending out the letters to us 2003 owners notifying us to have the problem checked out by our dealers. Thus "admitting", but not fixing (because it must be a design flaw), just "band aidin" us until we are out of warranty
Matt
12-06-2004 | 08:00 AM
#188
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From: Lexington, Kentucky
Originally posted by mattvols
Yes, Nissan "admitted they had an issue with the tire/suspension" by sending the letters to the 2003 owners. The Class Action Suit should also include the Dealer for each buyer.....ie "knowing there was a problem and ignoring it just to make a profit". That term starts with an "F".....and ends with a "D".
12-08-2004 | 11:28 AM
#190
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From: Memphis, TN
WTF...I am so sick of this.....Nissan is not telling the dealerships when they can expect tires...Nissan is blaming Bridgestone. I guess Nissan figures if you can't even get new tires once then their can't be any lemon law claims. This is total b.s. Hallelujah holly ****!!
12-08-2004 | 11:32 AM
#191
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From: Florida
Originally posted by Reese
WTF...I am so sick of this.....Nissan is not telling the dealerships when they can expect tires...Nissan is blaming Bridgestone. I guess Nissan figures if you can't even get new tires once then their can't be any lemon law claims. This is total b.s. Hallelujah holly ****!!
WTF...I am so sick of this.....Nissan is not telling the dealerships when they can expect tires...Nissan is blaming Bridgestone. I guess Nissan figures if you can't even get new tires once then their can't be any lemon law claims. This is total b.s. Hallelujah holly ****!!
I was just told by Nissan that the tires are on NATIONAL BACKORDER so even if they would, which they won't, replace them they won't be available until April 2005!!!!! That is crazy!!
12-08-2004 | 01:01 PM
#192
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From: Memphis, TN
Originally posted by cvrobot
I was just told by Nissan that the tires are on NATIONAL BACKORDER so even if they would, which they won't, replace them they won't be available until April 2005!!!!! That is crazy!!
I was just told by Nissan that the tires are on NATIONAL BACKORDER so even if they would, which they won't, replace them they won't be available until April 2005!!!!! That is crazy!!
. So, after talking with Nissan, I decided to go to the Firestone store and just ask them if the tires are on backorder. They said it would probably be about 30 days before they would ship any tires to Nissan. The guy also told me that the reason the tires keep feathering after alignment is that Nissan does not have the correct specs for a proper alignment. Basically that Nissan fu**ed up from day one and had the wrong specs and released the wrong specs so everyone that had an alignment was just aligning to the wrong specs....therefore still having the same problem. He said they were not going to do anymore alignments until Nissan released some new specs for the 03's and 04's. I didn't really think about it until now but wouldn't the 05 specs work on the 03 & 04? or was something changed? Anyway I don't know who to believe anymore (believing nobody sounds like a safe bet) Man I don't know if I can't wait til April this roar is driving me nuts.
12-08-2004 | 01:10 PM
#193
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From: Lexington, Kentucky
Originally posted by Reese
I talked to Nissan and got the same story but they didn't say anything about April 2005 . So, after talking with Nissan, I decided to go to the Firestone store and just ask them if the tires are on backorder. They said it would probably be about 30 days before they would ship any tires to Nissan. The guy also told me that the reason the tires keep feathering after alignment is that Nissan does not have the correct specs for a proper alignment. Basically that Nissan fu**ed up from day one and had the wrong specs and released the wrong specs so everyone that had an alignment was just aligning to the wrong specs....therefore still having the same problem. He said they were not going to do anymore alignments until Nissan released some new specs for the 03's and 04's.
I didn't really think about it until now but wouldn't the 05 specs work on the 03 & 04? or was something changed? Anyway I don't know who to believe anymore (believing nobody sounds like a safe bet) Man I don't know if I can't wait til April this roar is driving me nuts.
I talked to Nissan and got the same story but they didn't say anything about April 2005
. So, after talking with Nissan, I decided to go to the Firestone store and just ask them if the tires are on backorder. They said it would probably be about 30 days before they would ship any tires to Nissan. The guy also told me that the reason the tires keep feathering after alignment is that Nissan does not have the correct specs for a proper alignment. Basically that Nissan fu**ed up from day one and had the wrong specs and released the wrong specs so everyone that had an alignment was just aligning to the wrong specs....therefore still having the same problem. He said they were not going to do anymore alignments until Nissan released some new specs for the 03's and 04's. I didn't really think about it until now but wouldn't the 05 specs work on the 03 & 04? or was something changed? Anyway I don't know who to believe anymore (believing nobody sounds like a safe bet) Man I don't know if I can't wait til April this roar is driving me nuts.
12-09-2004 | 04:12 PM
#194
2004 Roadster - feathering and roar showed up at 8800 miles, so I took it to the dealer today with 9100.
I had the 2003 TSB and other documentation in hand, and the service manager didn't offer any lame excuses. So he did "step one" - cross swapped the front tires and remounted them. I told him that based on experiences gleaned from the major users' groups (this one, mostly), he could expect to see me asking for new tires in about another thousand miles or less when the roar/feathering reappears.
Not very satisfying, but at least he didn't take the denial route. It was pretty obvious that they've been instructed to admit nothing regarding the 2004's and protract the process - presumably through the tire warranty period.
More to follow . . . .
I had the 2003 TSB and other documentation in hand, and the service manager didn't offer any lame excuses. So he did "step one" - cross swapped the front tires and remounted them. I told him that based on experiences gleaned from the major users' groups (this one, mostly), he could expect to see me asking for new tires in about another thousand miles or less when the roar/feathering reappears.
Not very satisfying, but at least he didn't take the denial route. It was pretty obvious that they've been instructed to admit nothing regarding the 2004's and protract the process - presumably through the tire warranty period.
More to follow . . . .
12-15-2004 | 06:30 AM
#196
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From: Tennessee
Originally posted by Funk Sway
Has anyone informed the national news media of all this ??,I'll bet there would be some changes if "60 Min." showed up at NNA and or some local dealers.
Has anyone informed the national news media of all this ??,I'll bet there would be some changes if "60 Min." showed up at NNA and or some local dealers.
12-15-2004 | 06:41 AM
#198
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From: Lexington, Kentucky
Originally posted by mattvols
I just sent 60 minutes an e-mail. If I hear back, I will let everyone know.
I just sent 60 minutes an e-mail. If I hear back, I will let everyone know.
Does anyone have a 2005 with more than 7,000 miles. Just wondering if that car is experiencing the same tire feathering.
12-16-2004 | 05:28 AM
#199
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From: Tennessee
Will someone try to contact Dateline too? I tried, but can't get to it from work because it is blocked here (we have sensitive sensors, I am surprised 350Z is not blocked!). My home computer is down too!