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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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First ever Modified Tuner Shootout at California Speedway with Chris Rado Scion TC, Hasport CRX & Integra, Axis 350Z, Factor X NSX, Full Race S14, Crawford STi, AMS EVO, & more...

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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Nice video!!
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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I think there are better z's than the ones that represented there. The runs for those z's in all the events were not that great. They could have done better!!! Not to say that the z's would have beat all those cars but imo there are better companies out there with better z's than max works and axis z's.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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They prolly picked those Z's because they're big-name ones. There's a few on this forum I think woulda faired better.

The AMS Evo is f'n sick. I love AMS.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tany009
I think there are better z's than the ones that represented there. The runs for those z's in all the events were not that great. They could have done better!!! Not to say that the z's would have beat all those cars but imo there are better companies out there with better z's than max works and axis z's.
The Axis Z sucked but the M-Works Z was top notch. They're a chassis tuning company located in So Cal. I think the owner (Steve?) used to be a Nissan Engineer. It's just that Z's can't hang with Turbo'ed 4wd Evos and Sti's...too heavy and not enough traction
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Old May 11, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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It's just that Z's can't hang with Turbo'ed 4wd Evos and Sti's...too heavy and not enough traction
You do realize that (stock to stock) 350Z's weigh less than Evo's and STI/STi's, right? And Z's can hang, it's just that Evo's like AMS' are purpose-built for kicking all ***. This is what Evo tuners build for... to dominate EVERYTHING on the course. Hell, I'm sure you seen the HKS Evo's in action. Evo tuners like Buschur Racing, AMS, GSC etc. have nothing better to do with their time than build cars to kick each others asses. This just translates into them kicking everyone elses asses too. Tuners just need to start over-building Z's in the same way.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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^LOL...no Z's just can't hang...at least I'm not in denail! ahaha
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc
You do realize that (stock to stock) 350Z's weigh less than Evo's and STI/STi's, right? And Z's can hang, it's just that Evo's like AMS' are purpose-built for kicking all ***. This is what Evo tuners build for... to dominate EVERYTHING on the course. Hell, I'm sure you seen the HKS Evo's in action. Evo tuners like Buschur Racing, AMS, GSC etc. have nothing better to do with their time than build cars to kick each others asses. This just translates into them kicking everyone elses asses too. Tuners just need to start over-building Z's in the same way.

O rly? What is the weight of a 2007 Grand Touring?
What's the weight of an EVO RS?
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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AWD cars tend to have an advantage because of the traction and stability
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O rly? What is the weight of a 2007 Grand Touring?
What's the weight of an EVO RS?
Why would you put the heaviest non-roadster Z up against the lightest Evo?

When I was still in the Mid-A, we rented MIR out for a day and weighed our cars there. All of the non-show and non-roadster Z's there weighed less than my Evo by up to ~150lbs. For reference, my car weighed in at 3190lbs.
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Originally Posted by allmotorking
AWD cars tend to have an advantage because of the traction and stability
True, but a built/tuned suspension and dope tires on RWD can make up for the lack of AWD. The only thing it's gonna have after that is the fact that AWD will get better exit speeds.
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nice vid and great cars
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The evo has been around for 10 generations now, the Z, only a few. I'm sure there has been more R&D on performance for the Evo's/Sti's, but so far they're ahead of the Z in terms of parts and performance. But if you read the modified mag this month, power output of the Z was around 500hp and the Evo was somewhere around that number. The Z came behind the Evo in every category (the top cars were all 4wd, Sti/Evo). Even the 240 came in ahead of the Z. It could be because of tuning/driver/road conditions but one thing was pretty constant: the 4wd's out performed the Z in all aspects of the competition. Personally, I would have liked to see another RWD compete (Supra). You never really see them compete in these types of evaluations.
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