After going back and fourth on the issue, I have decided to go FI in the near future (next few months). Function:Tuned has that warranty offer that I will be jumping on. I would like to go the route of the APS ST and UTEC EMS. I don't really have any intention on building the engine so all the searching said ST is the way to do it on a stock block. I want to get ~360rwhp and this is my daily driver. Since I've never had a turboed car before, my manager (turbo VW r32) told me that I would be very disappointed with a ST because I would get owned by lag. He said I would only have full boost for maybe 5000rpm-redline and the rest would be like driving civic. He told me it would be awesome and very fast on the highways but city driving (which I do most) would get really, really annoying and I wouldn't get any fun out of it.

So before I lay down the big bucks on the turbo I was wondering if someone in the MD/NOVA/BALTIMORE area would be willing to give me a ride in your turbo Z. Preferably a ST 5AT (since that will be closest to what I want) but not limited to only that. I just want to see what its like before I regret it later and see if its worth the extra few grand to get a TT on a stock block. I'll give you money for the gas I've used and you would be helping me out a great deal. There is no rush since I won't be getting the turbo for a few months and I will work around your schedule for the best possible time. Thanks guys. =]

 

LOL.. if im in the area, i can PM you. but im on a 6mt twins though...

 

Your boss is wrong, I start making power at about 3500 and full boost at 4200. Its fun in the city too. Thats where I do most of my driving.

 

theres barely any lag on these kits for our cars

 

Your boss is a moron. My Turbonetics ST hit full boost from 3800rpm's on. The lag is minimal once moving, and who races from idle coming out of the hole? Bottom line-unless you have palsy (in that case you shouldnt be racing) you will always be in powerband with any turbo kit for the Z's.

Id also offer you a ride, but I now run Greddy TT on a built motor that wouldnt do anything for you but maybe pucker your butthole...in all seriousness if you want a ride let me know.

Good luck with your FI venture, why did you choose APS ST if you dont mind me asking?

 

When my Z is back up I can give you a ride also. Im running a Greddy TT with stock block. However, its pretty close to what Berto runs, so it would be about the same ride.

 

my turbonetics experience led me to a cracked wastegate-down pipe (twice) and an exhaust leak, and the turbo's oil seals went bad after a year..

the turbonetics reflash also helped in my car to melt a piston..

 

Dont get a ride from the two guys above there both built and push around 500hp. I made the mastake of going in a ride of both these guys cars after I TT my 06 and when I got back in my car both times my car felt like $hit it felt so slow I thought something is wrong. Your Boss is a Dumb ***. I have been in a Auto Z with T-netics set up and it felt good. you wont be sad at all with a ST set up trust me.

 

To be honest the only reason I chose APS is because in the thread https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/268639-function-tuned-stock-motor-fi-warranty-program.html APS is the only single turbo kit offered in the warranty. I'd use a TN if they let me


And thanks everyone for the offers, although the greddy TT setup isn't what I had in mind... it would be fun to ride in it anyway.

 

your manager is full of ****. The VQ has more than twice of the displacement that the civic has. Lag should be very minimal. The higher displacement will spool the turbo quicker. I would however sugest the turbonetics st kit over the aps one though. It's a cleaner looking setup and definitely more popular.

 

First post below...

Reading comprehension owns you. Its a 3.2L motor, if they dont hit full boost till 5000rpms, they are running improperly sized snails...

 

I have to disagree with the TN statement. While I did love my TN (no doubt about it), I think the design of the APS is way better. The only thing the TN really has going for it, is the bling factor when you pop the hood.

 

Good answer. The TN kit is good, but not the best, it has a tendency to spike in boost, even with the relocation, its looks/sounds are its strong points, performance is good though. Of course getting an APS ST to hold full boost until redline can be an issue (nothing $$$ wont solve) but thats another thread

 

Well, I am no FI expert but considering our cars are 3.5L NA V6 engines with 260+ of TQ (@ crank), even on the low end our car will pull relatively nicely. So even slapping a turbo on there even with turbo lag I don't see why performance would suck prior to the full spool of the turbo. Besides...it doesn't take that long to get to 3.5-5k RPMs . Until then its almost as if you are going NA and you definetly aren't driving a 4 banger.

The threads I've read where engine performance went down slightly are with people who got built engines and lowered their compression so it handle all that power of larger turbo(s) for top end.

And if you are getting a ride with someone with FI, as k3silk said, don't get it with the big dawgs like Alberto. You will be in for a serious disappointment when you step into your own FI car cause you will always compare it to theirs.

 

What happened to your car?

 

Not sure yet, a ticking sound coming from the heads, hoping its something like a bent valve, and nothing much worse. Should know today.

 

I went APS single (6spd) and hope to have it installed within the next few months. I wish it could be sooner but time isn't working in my favor for the next few months with other things going on.

 

Priceless.

 

From first hand experience, I can attest to it!

 

are you running methanol injection?