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6th Annual Fall Skyline Drive, VA Cruise: Sunday, October 4

Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lv2DC_Z
I fight with the cops with my little 100 car meet every week. I told them once that I had organized it... they threatened me with hostin an illegal meet.

You know you can talk to SEMA about this also
What I don't understand is if we all paid the full entrance fee individually how they could call us a "group". In addition weren't we just expressing ourselves (First Amendment).

I agree BK FTW
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lv2DC_Z
I fight with the cops with my little 100 car meet every week. I told them once that I had organized it... they threatened me with hostin an illegal meet.

You know you can talk to SEMA about this also
SEMA never took 75 cars on a Skyline Drive Cruise. I will talk with the Corvette Club, and see how they organise their cruise. I read the Special Use Permit rules. The rules are as confounding as the tax code.
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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But at the same time sema does protect against unjust rulings towards cars. I think the reason why it was so big was of g club... i love them buy they roll to deep
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
SEMA never took 75 cars on a Skyline Drive Cruise. I will talk with the Corvette Club, and see how they organise their cruise. I read the Special Use Permit rules. The rules are as confounding as the tax code.
Rhetorical Q. If we were so obviously a "GROUP" requiring a special use permit, then why did they let us in? We were 50 strong at the gate when I entered.
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bomber
Rhetorical Q. If we were so obviously a "GROUP" requiring a special use permit, then why did they let us in? We were 50 strong at the gate when I entered.
Something else I'd like answered. What if I had just happened to decide to drive the Skyline Drive today in my Z. Not with this group or any group. You mean to tell me they can throw me out because of the type of car I'm driving????????????

I want my Lawyer
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bomber
Rhetorical Q. If we were so obviously a "GROUP" requiring a special use permit, then why did they let us in? We were 50 strong at the gate when I entered.
I assume that the ticket takers were overwhelmed by the number of cars. At some point they realised that we were a group, and radioed the park police.
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Originally Posted by RoTors350Z
We were told that if they see any more Z's or Infiniti's at 211 they will arrest them. They wanted us all out at 211.
This is the part I'm talking about............VEHICLE DESCRIMINATION Not doing anything wrong but asked to leave because of the brand of car you drive.

Is there such a thing?

That makes me more than a little angry
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i had a FAWKING blast!!!!!!
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Anyone have a change to have fun with the lambo?
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Originally Posted by CH³NO²
This is the part I'm talking about............VEHICLE DESCRIMINATION Not doing anything wrong but asked to leave because of the brand of car you drive.

Is there such a thing?

That makes me more than a little angry
Here are the rules:

Special use permits for events may be authorized by the Superintendent subject to the same criteria as other
special park uses provided that:
• There is a meaningful association between the park and the event
• The event contributes to visitor understanding of the significance of the park.


http://www.nps.gov/shen/planyourvisi...s%20policy.pdf

With this criteria in place, I doubt if I can justify a permit.
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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I hope this isn't the beginning of the end!!
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Originally Posted by davidv
My apologises for promising a leisurely Sunday drive, then everyone getting hassled by the park police. It was certainly not my intention to turn everyone into criminals.

I approached one of the park cops to see why the various 350Z/G35 groups were being pulled over. I explained that I organised the cruise. Big mistake. I went from organiser to head criminal in charge of vehicle mayhem. Asked if I had a Special Use Permit , the Chief explained that we had upset the patrons, and ordered that we vacate the park immediately at VA211.

The Chief took my licence and registration, and said that I will be investigated for violating Title 16, U.S. Code and Title 36, Code of Federal Regulations, 2.50.

Despite the cops and being ordered to leave the park, turnout was nothing short of incredible!

Sorry to hear this, I know from some past experiences watching others get harrased that you never want to own up to organizaing one of these things once the authorities get involved.. regardless thanks for setting it up, it was alot of fun, as always..


Originally Posted by davidv
SEMA never took 75 cars on a Skyline Drive Cruise. I will talk with the Corvette Club, and see how they organise their cruise. I read the Special Use Permit rules. The rules are as confounding as the tax code.
the few times I have done skyline with the corvette guys, I am pretty sure they had a permit.. everyone met before entering the park, and signed in with the organizer, we then had a police escort heading towards the entrance..

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So were are the pics/video?
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Originally Posted by halfass872
I hope this isn't the beginning of the end!!
Unfortunately I think so.

Interesting that we make it from Manassas to Front Royal without a single cop incident. Trouble starts after entering the park. This is Skyline Drive Cruise #12 BTW. I think we were just to big to remain under the radar so to speak.
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Originally Posted by davidv
Unfortunately I think so.

Interesting that we make it from Manassas to Front Royal without a single cop incident. Trouble starts after entering the park. This is Skyline Drive Cruise #12 BTW. I think we were just to big to remain under the radar so to speak.
Thanks for putting it together and taking the heat. I really enjoyed the day!

Want us to start a bail fund?
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Well the other 30 of us cruised around till 5 and then headed down 211 with no troubles from any rangers or LEOs. Sorry to hear about yalls (yeah I said yalls) group.

We have a lot of video and pictures to sift through. I saw so many people with cameras I'm going to make a thread just for posting the skyline pictures and videos. BRB
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 07rdsterGT
Well the other 30 of us cruised around till 5 and then headed down 211 with no troubles from any rangers or LEOs. Sorry to hear about yalls (yeah I said yalls) group.

We have a lot of video and pictures to sift through. I saw so many people with cameras I'm going to make a thread just for posting the skyline pictures and videos. BRB
can you link the new thread here? BTW, my gfriend and I were the first Z (as far as we could tell) to get to the restaurant. We did catch a few hard looks from Park Rangers on our way out.
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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We made it up to meadow by 2:30-3pm and we were the only ones up there (me and 4 other ngc guys). We didn't find out about the tribulations until some other people caught up to us on our ways back. We didn't violate any speed laws, but we only stopped at about 2 rest stops. I did see the lotus coming back in the other direction though. We rode back on 211 around 5pm, and had a few police pace us and there was definitely a few speed traps waiting for us. As far as I know no one was pulled over.

Big thanks to Davidv for organizing the event (regardless of police bs).

Pics to come
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Originally Posted by Lv2DC_Z
Anyone have a change to have fun with the lambo?
I never saw that car again once we left Home Depot! I wanted to him him crank it.
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Had fun until i got rear ended by a Z. Oh well not bad at all just a few little chips. Bumper is not lopsided or anything.

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