Lexus GS400 vs. 350z
02-18-2003, 02:06 PM
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Lexus GS400 vs. 350z
Any of you raced a GS400? A friend of mine owns one and they are fast cars, run 1/4 mile 14.2 and 0-60 in 5.7, and all that with a lousy drive that motor trend uses. He is basicaly holds with my Bullitt. I usually take him on launch up through 3rd gear, then he stays with me from there. If they are driven by a good driver they are tuff car. My friend says he beat a 350z (actually I was with him) on an up hill run from a stoplight. Any of you had any experiences with them?
02-18-2003, 03:18 PM
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wel i have a 2000 gs400 and id say that the 2 cars are about even. it all depends on driver. heres my story about my Z vs my GS400
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=15084
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=15084
02-18-2003, 03:22 PM
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I would have to say the lexus would win in my mind. something like 300hp stock with the option to tune up to 350 for a grand straight from toyota. The SC400 would be an awesome race as well. 2JZ engine (supra).
02-18-2003, 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by quallabone
I would have to say the lexus would win in my mind. something like 300hp stock with the option to tune up to 350 for a grand straight from toyota. The SC400 would be an awesome race as well. 2JZ engine (supra).
I would have to say the lexus would win in my mind. something like 300hp stock with the option to tune up to 350 for a grand straight from toyota. The SC400 would be an awesome race as well. 2JZ engine (supra).
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The engine straight from toyota is the most air starved engine on the planet. I know that 1k is not a lot but Toyota used it as a loss leader much like the new neon and the mazdaspeed (both quite underpriced).
Toyota put a dual 2.5 inch exhaust header back with a larger TB and free flowing intake. Upgraded chip as well. Maybe more I'm not sure. Someone on here probably knows the specifics.
Toyota put a dual 2.5 inch exhaust header back with a larger TB and free flowing intake. Upgraded chip as well. Maybe more I'm not sure. Someone on here probably knows the specifics.
02-18-2003, 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by DrDrilZ
wel i have a 2000 gs400 and id say that the 2 cars are about even. it all depends on driver. heres my story about my Z vs my GS400
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=15084
wel i have a 2000 gs400 and id say that the 2 cars are about even. it all depends on driver. heres my story about my Z vs my GS400
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=15084
I completely agree. I've actually beaten a 350Z already. I still love the car though. The GS hangs with a Bullitt completely in a race, and I took this z with a little effort. It kep up though, but I took him by a little bit.
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02-18-2003, 06:37 PM
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well having owned a GS4 and now owning a G Coupe (and raced a GS400 with it), i too will echo that it will be close. the lex is alot easier to launch and the results are more predictable. but with 2 good drivers, the 350 should be able to take it. when i raced a modded GS (TC, LSD) i smoked him off the line, but he forgot to turn off his traction control. from a 60 roll, the results were dead even. it all depended on who got the jump. my 2 cents......
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02-18-2003, 08:49 PM
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From my experiance with my friends stock GS4 (MrSpiffy), my low end torque and mid range hp is where I have him. I always pull on him from a luanch, and keep ahead through 3rd, where he catches up and we end in a dead heat. But that wont be for long. Once I get some 3.90 gear, cold air intake, underdrive pulleys, comp chip and whatever else I can think of, I should take him no prob. 1/4 mile in the high 13's with 0-60 of low fives or flat five second runs. And all for the low price of a couple hundred bucks!! Then if I add some cams, headers MAF and some otehr stuff I will easlily have all of you. Cheap mods rock!!! But I still want a 350z. They just look so cool. And as we all know, straight line isnt everything...
02-18-2003, 09:30 PM
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I have both a GS430 and the Z.....have yet to run them but just crunching numbers the Z should beat the GS. They both dyno basically in the same hp range...but the Z is 400 lbs LIGHTER than the GS...plus it has shorter gearing. A properly driven Z should beat a GS off the line...and be able to hold him off till the speed limiter.
The GS "feels" faster than the Z because of it's torque and the fact that it's SO DAMN quiet and smooth under WOT....the only thing I don't like about the car is it's trans...shifts take FOREVER....
I'll have one of my friends drive the GS in the spring against the Z....possibly take some videos..and then we'll really see what will happen.
The GS "feels" faster than the Z because of it's torque and the fact that it's SO DAMN quiet and smooth under WOT....the only thing I don't like about the car is it's trans...shifts take FOREVER....
I'll have one of my friends drive the GS in the spring against the Z....possibly take some videos..and then we'll really see what will happen.
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Re: Lexus GS400 vs. 350z
Originally posted by High_Velocity_Bullit
Any of you raced a GS400? A friend of mine owns one and they are fast cars, run 1/4 mile 14.2 and 0-60 in 5.7, and all that with a lousy drive that motor trend uses. He is basicaly holds with my Bullitt. I usually take him on launch up through 3rd gear, then he stays with me from there. If they are driven by a good driver they are tuff car. My friend says he beat a 350z (actually I was with him) on an up hill run from a stoplight. Any of you had any experiences with them?
Any of you raced a GS400? A friend of mine owns one and they are fast cars, run 1/4 mile 14.2 and 0-60 in 5.7, and all that with a lousy drive that motor trend uses. He is basicaly holds with my Bullitt. I usually take him on launch up through 3rd gear, then he stays with me from there. If they are driven by a good driver they are tuff car. My friend says he beat a 350z (actually I was with him) on an up hill run from a stoplight. Any of you had any experiences with them?
So your friend "Mr Spiffy" says he beat a 350Z.....and then you suddenly remeber that you were "with him" at the time?...um...ok.
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Re: Re: Lexus GS400 vs. 350z
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
So your friend "Mr Spiffy" says he beat a 350Z.....and then you suddenly remeber that you were "with him" at the time?...um...ok.
So your friend "Mr Spiffy" says he beat a 350Z.....and then you suddenly remeber that you were "with him" at the time?...um...ok.
02-18-2003, 11:00 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Lexus GS400 vs. 350z
Originally posted by quallabone
Hmmm. Hmmmmmmmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.. Nope can't think of anything intelligent to say. How's this? EAT A BAG YOU PATHETIC MAN WHO ATTEMPTS TO POKE HOLES IN EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE SAY. I recall you doing the same thing to me. And aren't you the cool guy who says slicks don't help in drags? There now that is an example of pointless shots at a person. Don't do it anymore.
Hmmm. Hmmmmmmmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.. Nope can't think of anything intelligent to say. How's this? EAT A BAG YOU PATHETIC MAN WHO ATTEMPTS TO POKE HOLES IN EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE SAY. I recall you doing the same thing to me. And aren't you the cool guy who says slicks don't help in drags? There now that is an example of pointless shots at a person. Don't do it anymore.
If you would correctly quote me...I simply said that slicks will NOT improve your trap speed...in most cases they will make it LOWER....don't play with my words.
BTW - Did I ask YOU to tell ME what to do???
I was nice and didn't attack your post in this thread in which you posted a BUNCH OF BS....including that a SC400 has a supra motor...when in fact it has a 4L V8....do you want me to rip you apart for your dumb posts too??? I don't want to discriminate.
02-19-2003, 05:59 AM
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I didnt just "remember" that he was with me, I thought I would state it. Does that really make any difference? What does my being there have to do with anything, other than to verify that he did it. Oh and from my perspective, the 350z guy didn't really try that hard, looked like he got scared when my friends GS was holding with him. It was up a hill with corners, so he backed off, or got scared. But the point is still that my friend was slightly ahead before he backed off.
02-19-2003, 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by High_Velocity_Bullit
I didnt just "remember" that he was with me, I thought I would state it. Does that really make any difference? What does my being there have to do with anything, other than to verify that he did it. Oh and from my perspective, the 350z guy didn't really try that hard, looked like he got scared when my friends GS was holding with him. It was up a hill with corners, so he backed off, or got scared. But the point is still that my friend was slightly ahead before he backed off.
I didnt just "remember" that he was with me, I thought I would state it. Does that really make any difference? What does my being there have to do with anything, other than to verify that he did it. Oh and from my perspective, the 350z guy didn't really try that hard, looked like he got scared when my friends GS was holding with him. It was up a hill with corners, so he backed off, or got scared. But the point is still that my friend was slightly ahead before he backed off.
I never said that it didn't happen...just that they way that you said that was a little wierd...
Anything can happen in a street race....and the GS and 350Z are very close in straight line performance so it really could go either way, all I was saying is that ultimately I think the 350 is a quicker car...and I have both.
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Re: Re: Re: Lexus GS400 vs. 350z
Originally posted by quallabone
Hmmm. Hmmmmmmmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.. Nope can't think of anything intelligent to say. How's this? EAT A BAG YOU PATHETIC MAN WHO ATTEMPTS TO POKE HOLES IN EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE SAY. I recall you doing the same thing to me. And aren't you the cool guy who says slicks don't help in drags? There now that is an example of pointless shots at a person. Don't do it anymore.
Hmmm. Hmmmmmmmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.. Nope can't think of anything intelligent to say. How's this? EAT A BAG YOU PATHETIC MAN WHO ATTEMPTS TO POKE HOLES IN EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE SAY. I recall you doing the same thing to me. And aren't you the cool guy who says slicks don't help in drags? There now that is an example of pointless shots at a person. Don't do it anymore.
Dude, you need to settle down. The only thing people were questioning you about before were your comments regarding a Z06 350Z road course matchup.
Seriously, next time you say to yourself "can't think of anything itelligent to say," consider not bothering to post.
And as for that GS430 matchup vs. 350Z---it will be interesting. It's hard to say which will take the prize, but I'm thinking that the tranny will cause the GS to lose...although...that GS has got the power.
Brian---do you have the video of the GS burnout?? Please post if you do.
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Originally posted by High_Velocity_Bullit
I didnt just "remember" that he was with me, I thought I would state it. Does that really make any difference? What does my being there have to do with anything, other than to verify that he did it. Oh and from my perspective, the 350z guy didn't really try that hard, looked like he got scared when my friends GS was holding with him. It was up a hill with corners, so he backed off, or got scared. But the point is still that my friend was slightly ahead before he backed off.
I didnt just "remember" that he was with me, I thought I would state it. Does that really make any difference? What does my being there have to do with anything, other than to verify that he did it. Oh and from my perspective, the 350z guy didn't really try that hard, looked like he got scared when my friends GS was holding with him. It was up a hill with corners, so he backed off, or got scared. But the point is still that my friend was slightly ahead before he backed off.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Lexus GS400 vs. 350z
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Brian---do you have the video of the GS burnout?? Please post if you do.
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Brian---do you have the video of the GS burnout?? Please post if you do.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Lexus GS400 vs. 350z
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
....including that a SC400 has a supra motor...when in fact it has a 4L V8....
....including that a SC400 has a supra motor...when in fact it has a 4L V8....
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lexus GS400 vs. 350z
Originally posted by quallabone
sorry. I was talking about the 300 not the 400
sorry. I was talking about the 300 not the 400
An SRT intake and chip will net aroud 15-20hp...or at least they claim...but nothing else short of forced induction or nitrous will add much more hp on these cars.