350z and Mustang Bullitts: A View From the Bullitt

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04-10-2003 | 05:15 PM

High_Velocity_Bullit

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350z and Mustang Bullitts: A View From the Bullitt

Saw this over on IMBOC.com. The guy smoked a Z from second gear. I am not trying to start anything, just showing some of the street "happenins".

~Colby

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04-10-2003 | 05:35 PM

brandboZ28

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If its true, thats an impressive story. Its kinda hard to believe you though. I have raced a lightly modded Bullit and I was neck and neck with him. I have also raced a 350Z and just edged him out by a few lengths. Im not saying it cant happen but still.

Bo

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04-10-2003 | 05:42 PM

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I wasn't me that posted it over there. I am also slightly skeptical. Most likely it came down to driver skill and not so much the car. The driver in the Z may not have known how to launch as well as the Bullitt driver did. I just thought it was interesting though. If a GT can hold with a Z with equal drivers, then a Bullitt should be able to slightly edge out the Z in the lower and upper range of its power. The Bullitt has quite a bit more torque than the Z does, so that helps a bit. Plus the Bullitt has a pretty good top end, which the GT doesn't have as much as. The Bullitt actually has more power than Ford rated it at. In 2001 they changed there hp rating method to a more conservative system, due to the problems with the 99 Cobra. This affected the Bullitts hp, bringing it down in flywheel rating, but the GT kept the same rating through out.

Just my .02 cents worth...

~Colby

04-10-2003 | 05:46 PM

brandboZ28

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Oh, I wasnt ******* you or anything. I was also just inserting my .02. Nothing personal against you. Dont worry, I wont shoot the messenger.

04-10-2003 | 05:50 PM

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Oh, I wasnt ******* you or anything. I was also just inserting my .02. Nothing personal against you. Dont worry, I wont shoot the messenger.

Bo

I didn't think that you were. Just don't shoot the Bullitt. You think my car could hold with yours with the mods that I have? Getting a stroker kit soon, going 300ci and 5.0L

Should be sweet...

04-10-2003 | 05:54 PM

brandboZ28

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Yea, as of now, I lose to everyone. My transmission is shot. When I raced the Bullit, it was before my headers. A race between us would be close if my tranny wasnt **** but as of now, you have me.

See ya.

Bo

04-10-2003 | 05:57 PM

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Yea, as of now, I lose to everyone. My transmission is shot. When I raced the Bullit, it was before my headers. A race between us would be close if my tranny wasnt **** but as of now, you have me. See ya.

Bo

With my driving skills even a guy in a 350z... er I mean a Peugeot could beat me.

~Colby

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04-10-2003 | 06:08 PM

brandboZ28

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That triax makes shifting a little easier though. A buddy of mine has one on his GT and it is a tight shifter. You dont miss gears with it. I didnt anyways.

Just dont blow the launch and your golden.

04-10-2003 | 06:25 PM

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Here is a pic of what my engine will look similar to.

04-10-2003 | 06:51 PM

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brandboZ28

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Thats nice. I have been hanging out with some stangers here lately so I have seen a couple of those. That is definatly a nice setup. You would walk me fairly easily with that, as long as I havent gotten something else(umm, maybe a modded LS1

). Maybe even then too. Later.

Bo

04-10-2003 | 07:31 PM

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Well in stock form they have very close times it would come down to driver skill!

04-10-2003 | 08:58 PM

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Thats nice. I have been hanging out with some stangers here lately so I have seen a couple of those. That is definatly a nice setup. You would walk me fairly easily with that, as long as I havent gotten something else(umm, maybe a modded LS1 ). Maybe even then too. Later.

Bo

With just the stroker kit, I would be around 330hp-350hp from what others with the same mod have gained. With cams, supercharger(15psi) and beefed up internals, and everything else I would be seeing alot more (read: alot

)... But of course, the same can be done to the Z28 pretty easlily... Then I would be runnin scared. lol. I am also thinking of adding 125 shot nos to the car. With the beefed internals, the car will be able to handle it. I think... Any Z's want to race???

04-10-2003 | 09:05 PM

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Here is a pic of what my engine will look similar to.

Also this kit isn't quite all that I would be doing, and they can get 400-450hp easily. They problem with over 400hp on the stock engine is the internals. But with how I am planning on beefing it up, I should get at least 500. My goal is 550 to 600hp.

~Colby

04-10-2003 | 09:08 PM

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Well in stock form they have very close times it would come down to driver skill!

How do you figure? Low 14's to lowish high 13's? Lol. J/K... I would basically agree. I would say the Bullitt has a slight edge in the low range, even in the mid, and even in the high. And of course, any race can come down to a driver. Look even a 350z has beeten a ZO6. lol. But seriously, with equal drivers, they are pretty dang close. But just wait untill after my mods. Run whatcha brung...

~Colby

04-10-2003 | 10:44 PM

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Re: 350z and Mustang Bullitts: A View From the Bullitt

Quote:

Originally posted by High_Velocity_Bullit
Saw this over on IMBOC.com. The guy smoked a Z from second gear. I am not trying to start anything, just showing some of the street "happenins".

~Colby

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IMBOC.com

actually, that was pretty meaningless post, we all know how the cars compare, it is OBVIOUS that there was driver error, big deal.

are you sure it wasn't a Mach 1??? (a much different beast than the Bullit, even though the Bullit looks 10X better)

btw, you mention that Ford uses a much more conservative way of measuring HP now, I think what you meant to say is that they are giving HONEST figures now, much like most every other car company has for any years now (except for the miata a few years back, any coincidence that Mazda and Ford are in bed together??

)

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04-10-2003 | 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by High_Velocity_Bullit
How do you figure? Low 14's to lowish high 13's? Lol. J/K... I would basically agree. I would say the Bullitt has a slight edge in the low range, even in the mid, and even in the high. And of course, any race can come down to a driver. Look even a 350z has beeten a ZO6. lol. But seriously, with equal drivers, they are pretty dang close. But just wait untill after my mods. Run whatcha brung...

~Colby

I don't understand how people say the Bullit has an advantage. Every magazine time I read shows the Z with faster times, I know we don't like to go simply by mags times, BUT it seems like the default winner (since you were sort of guessing at the race results you would expect) would be the Z, not the Bullit, but I guess it depends on what you one is how you view reality (this goes BOTH ways).

04-11-2003 | 03:27 PM

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...well, I'll just throw in my 0.02 from my experience. At our track there is a really cool guy with a Vortech SC'd Bullit. Before the SC, the best time he told me he was able to pull was a 14.9s (In case you didn't read my sig, the track is at ~5400 feet). I know there's always the driver factor, but this guy has experience running at tracks. My best time so far is a 14.79s. I can run 14.9s all day with not perfect launches. I know there's all kinds of factors so take this comparison for whatever you like. Just sharing my experience on the topic. I have a lot of respect for V8 Mustangs, but I have noticed that a lot of owners just automatically assume that they are the fastest things on the road (especially with just a GT). However, I know there are a lot of 350Z owners like that as well

04-11-2003 | 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by newmexicoZ33
...well, I'll just throw in my 0.02 from my experience. At our track there is a really cool guy with a Vortech SC'd Bullit. Before the SC, the best time he told me he was able to pull was a 14.9s (In case you didn't read my sig, the track is at ~5400 feet). I know there's always the driver factor, but this guy has experience running at tracks. My best time so far is a 14.79s. I can run 14.9s all day with not perfect launches. I know there's all kinds of factors so take this comparison for whatever you like. Just sharing my experience on the topic. I have a lot of respect for V8 Mustangs, but I have noticed that a lot of owners just automatically assume that they are the fastest things on the road (especially with just a GT). However, I know there are a lot of 350Z owners like that as well

04-16-2003 | 01:49 PM

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i beat a white GT with one of those big nasty dual deck rear wings pretty badly...But that was with a 99 Dakota R/T with lots of mods...(360 and 5.9l) in case anybody didnt know the engine on it, but i havent rced a bullitt, or from what i can remember, i havent even seen one of those before. My friend has one of the Millen (???) edition mustangs w/ the side exhaust...sounds very nice, but i havent sen him since i got my Dakota though...