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05-29-2003, 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by e46fanatic
That's the bottom line, you can never replace quality.
There are so many other cars I'd rather drive than a neon, just the name neon makes me think on the same par in terms of a hyundai (although hyundai makes better cars now with their 10 year warranty).
That's the bottom line, you can never replace quality.
There are so many other cars I'd rather drive than a neon, just the name neon makes me think on the same par in terms of a hyundai (although hyundai makes better cars now with their 10 year warranty).
Most first year models will have TONS of problems, including Jap models. The SRT4? NONE.
All Dodge's come with a 7year/70k mile warranty. If Hondas/Toyotas/Nissan are so far superior why don't they have the same or MUCH greater warranty? And if you say something so stupid as "they don't need it" I will not bother to reply to you again as you obviously haven't got the ability to hold intelligent conversation.
05-29-2003, 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by e46fanatic
thank you mullet-euroguy, I would rather buy a rice rocket than an american POS, also I'd rather rely on a used Honda motor as well.
Let's not get into a kiddie Internet discussion on who's right or wrong now, obviously I'm always right.
thank you mullet-euroguy, I would rather buy a rice rocket than an american POS, also I'd rather rely on a used Honda motor as well.
Let's not get into a kiddie Internet discussion on who's right or wrong now, obviously I'm always right.
05-29-2003, 02:14 PM
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You're such a tool. You spent to much on your car. I spent to much on my car. The neon is an awesome deal. You say you'd rather have a built early 90's civic? I would as well. Way cheaper. But even cheaper is a dodge omni GLH. Pick one up for 400 bucks and for a grand you have a 12-13 second car. Don't compare new to used. That's as stupid as comparing stock to modded. And quit using the domestic vs. import copout. You don't have to tell us our cars are domestic. WE KNOW THEY ARE. Oh and F bodies are mullet cars. Don't confuse that with all domestics ***.
05-29-2003, 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by e46fanatic
ooooooh threats from neon owners.
how nice.
In the end you still drive a neon, get over it.
ooooooh threats from neon owners.
how nice.
In the end you still drive a neon, get over it.
05-29-2003, 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by e46fanatic
ooooooh threats from neon owners.
how nice.
In the end you still drive a neon, get over it.
ooooooh threats from neon owners.
how nice.
In the end you still drive a neon, get over it.
05-29-2003, 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by DaPurpleRT
If Hondas/Toyotas/Nissan are so far superior why don't they have the same or MUCH greater warranty?
If Hondas/Toyotas/Nissan are so far superior why don't they have the same or MUCH greater warranty?
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05-29-2003, 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by DamianZ
I know Nissan does, it's called an extended warranty. The question is why are the Japanese the thinkers while the others are the followers? No I'm not throwing any self-serving biases. Just a thought.
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I know Nissan does, it's called an extended warranty. The question is why are the Japanese the thinkers while the others are the followers? No I'm not throwing any self-serving biases. Just a thought.
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And explain to me how the "others" (assuming you mean domestics and Euros) are "following" the Japanese please....
05-29-2003, 10:29 PM
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Yeah, but you gotta pay for the extended warranty from Nissan.
It's free from Dodge.
Not sure what you are referring to about Japanese being thinkers and Domestics followers. Domestics have had fast compact cars in the past, and have had long warranties, so I don't think the statement is valid. Please clarify.
I think Dodge has made some of the best styled domestic cars over the past 10 years.
Avenger
Viper
Dakota
Ram
Prowler
PT Cruiser
SRT-4
Even if nobody seems to like the Neon now, it was a very popular car when it first arrived. I don't know too much about the Dodge Quality long term, but my Dakota has had far less initial problems than my Z. Their styling and design are top notch, though.
I really like the SRT-4. It's nice to see that people can get a 20K car that performs like many 30K cars, and a 30K car (STI/EVO/Z) that performs like many 40K car.
Hopefully GM will come roaring back as the leader of $/performance by bringing the LS-1 to a sub 30K car, but this time with a better platform, and preferably in a sports car version (like a cheap vette). That would be sweet.
-D'oh!
It's free from Dodge.
Not sure what you are referring to about Japanese being thinkers and Domestics followers. Domestics have had fast compact cars in the past, and have had long warranties, so I don't think the statement is valid. Please clarify.
I think Dodge has made some of the best styled domestic cars over the past 10 years.
Avenger
Viper
Dakota
Ram
Prowler
PT Cruiser
SRT-4
Even if nobody seems to like the Neon now, it was a very popular car when it first arrived. I don't know too much about the Dodge Quality long term, but my Dakota has had far less initial problems than my Z. Their styling and design are top notch, though.
I really like the SRT-4. It's nice to see that people can get a 20K car that performs like many 30K cars, and a 30K car (STI/EVO/Z) that performs like many 40K car.
Hopefully GM will come roaring back as the leader of $/performance by bringing the LS-1 to a sub 30K car, but this time with a better platform, and preferably in a sports car version (like a cheap vette). That would be sweet.
-D'oh!
05-30-2003, 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by D'oh
Hopefully GM will come roaring back as the leader of $/performance by bringing the LS-1 to a sub 30K car, but this time with a better platform, and preferably in a sports car version (like a cheap vette). That would be sweet.
-D'oh!
Hopefully GM will come roaring back as the leader of $/performance by bringing the LS-1 to a sub 30K car, but this time with a better platform, and preferably in a sports car version (like a cheap vette). That would be sweet.
-D'oh!
Go sit in and drive the new GTO when it hits dealerships this fall. You will be pleasantly surprised. The fit and finish is awesome for a GM car. The same applies for the new Grand Prix...
05-30-2003, 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by DaPurpleRT
I am talking a BASIC warranty, meaning you don't have to pay anymore for it, meaning whether you buy a new Viper or a base Neon you get that warranty at no charge. So why don't the Japs give it standard?
I am talking a BASIC warranty, meaning you don't have to pay anymore for it, meaning whether you buy a new Viper or a base Neon you get that warranty at no charge. So why don't the Japs give it standard?
I think the Japanese have always mainly focused on internal issues like suspension and driving stability. Craftsmanship might have been also a factor. But it seems like American car makers and engineers have mainly focused on speed when it comes to sports cars. Maybe they have taken the same step and realize there are more important issues then just acceleration. Stlye, price, dependability, and others. Look at Hyundai. they have a 10 year warranty with their vehicles. Again, I think it's a social, historical, or cultural facotr of why warranties are offered differently in the United States from Japanese or other foreign makers against American makers. Just my 0.5cents
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05-30-2003, 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by DaPurpleRT
WTF are talking about tool? I don't see a post by a Neon owner anywhere in this thread........
WTF are talking about tool? I don't see a post by a Neon owner anywhere in this thread........
I suggest that you need to go buy one since I see so many domestic ricers here on the defense when I merely state as my own personal *opinion* that American cars in general (especially neons) are crap. I've had my share with American POS cars, and personally I'd rather buy a used Honda than a new domestic.
I presume anyone who hate domestics are all tools
, go figure...
05-30-2003, 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by quallabone
You're such a tool. You spent to much on your car. I spent to much on my car. The neon is an awesome deal. You say you'd rather have a built early 90's civic? I would as well. Way cheaper. But even cheaper is a dodge omni GLH. ....blah blah blah blah ..I'm really the tool. I speak like this since I barely passed 5th grade. My sentences don't connect. I use to have a mullet. But I just love domestics....blah blah
I'm going to own a McLaren LM. Someone change my name to McLarenFanaticYO.
You're such a tool. You spent to much on your car. I spent to much on my car. The neon is an awesome deal. You say you'd rather have a built early 90's civic? I would as well. Way cheaper. But even cheaper is a dodge omni GLH. ....blah blah blah blah ..I'm really the tool. I speak like this since I barely passed 5th grade. My sentences don't connect. I use to have a mullet. But I just love domestics....blah blah
I'm going to own a McLaren LM. Someone change my name to McLarenFanaticYO.
If you want to flame, I suggest connecting your sentences and make them more understandable.
Also, I hate to speak the truth, but I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if it doesn't make you happy.
I'd also suggest you find a hobby since you have nothing better to do but to pick on my name handle. Maybe I should change my name to domestic_lover so you can get off my sack?
have a nice day - btw, Nissans rule and domestics fall apart, especially neons.
05-30-2003, 11:44 PM
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Go sit in and drive the new GTO when it hits dealerships this fall. You will be pleasantly surprised. The fit and finish is awesome for a GM car. The same applies for the new Grand Prix...
Go sit in and drive the new GTO when it hits dealerships this fall. You will be pleasantly surprised. The fit and finish is awesome for a GM car. The same applies for the new Grand Prix...
So now they just gotta make a sports car version...that is 20K less expensive than the vette.
-D'oh!
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Originally posted by FinalTA
How many POS E46 motors have popped now anyway
How many POS E46 motors have popped now anyway
06-01-2003, 12:26 PM
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Read carefully, October 2001-February2002 for e46 M3's. Okay, so I guess e46's, the number #1 compact-sport/luxury vehicle are all POS's due to that... lol domestic vehicles are all over German engineering, yeah right.
06-02-2003, 06:03 AM
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so what im wondering is if e46 really owns an m3 or not? He seems to have avoided the initial question. I really hate it when people talk about a car like its the best ever if they don't have any reliable first hand knowledge. I'm sorry man but your statement that it is #1 is based on someone elses opinion, in my opinion I think the Z is the best sport compact luxury car on the market. But im sure that a lot of people out there will disagree with me.
