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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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I agree it would look really nice. Having done it on previous cars and recently starting one on my Datsun, I can tell you it's ALOT of work - but the rewards can be great as it looks insanely clean. On my car, I was so eager to get it re-assembled I just didn't have the time to do it, but perhaps I'll start looking more heavily into it when the new manifold is installed...maybe start with the upper areas first and go from there.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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ya, i guess i just dont understand how much work it would be, never attempting a wire tuck myself...

so do you know when you might actually get a manifold in that you dont HAVE to give to a customer so you can throw one on for yourself? this thread is really exciting, any new updates are like another sequel to a great movie!
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Very nice build! I've spent the last two hours reviewing this thread! tons of info! I must say i'm still looking forward to another vid tho... highway run maybe great work and hopefully i'll be by your side in the +300 NA club but just like you it will be a long road and wont happen overnight.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by weaselfury
ya, i guess i just dont understand how much work it would be, never attempting a wire tuck myself...

so do you know when you might actually get a manifold in that you dont HAVE to give to a customer so you can throw one on for yourself? this thread is really exciting, any new updates are like another sequel to a great movie!
I wish I knew....we have a few backorders for the manifolds, but not too many, so hopefully I can have my own soon. I had a plan for 2008 upgrades anyway that consists of a few new things, so I'll just switch the order up a bit that's all As usual, I don't want to spill the beans till the new toys are installed, working and worthy

Highway run vids will definitely be in the cards - should have done it today actually as it was nice and I had some time to take the car out and stretch her legs a bit. But, I didn't even think to bring the camera...I think I'll just leave it in the car from now on!
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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yessir... this thread needs more input on the picture front bro... camera in the car is always the best bet into actually making it happen
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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it was nice and I had some time to take the car out and stretch her legs a bit.
Hey Adam,

Stop playing with your car and send me my stuff!

Just kidding...your car is an inspiration.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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Hey Steve

Your stuff is leaving here tomorrow in fact...just called BAX to schedule! You are going to have fun with the new parts
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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I'm actually EQUALLY excited to see what the cosworth manifold does for your car as what the 4.08/LSD does for my car you need to go hunt down a stillen blown Z to race

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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I'm actually EQUALLY excited to see what the cosworth manifold does for your car as what the 4.08/LSD does for my car you need to go hunt down a stillen blown Z to race
remember, horsepower does not always mean that much - you have weight (advantage me), gears (advantage me), and powerband (advantage me). The simple fact that I have roughly 1600 extra rpm to play with (where my car doesn't lose power either) vs most other cars with stock motors and bolt on FI kits, gives me the ability to keep pace with cars that on the dyno put down alot more power
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
remember, horsepower does not always mean that much - you have weight (advantage me), gears (advantage me), and powerband (advantage me). The simple fact that I have roughly 1600 extra rpm to play with (where my car doesn't lose power either) vs most other cars with stock motors and bolt on FI kits, gives me the ability to keep pace with cars that on the dyno put down alot more power
EXACTLY, which is why you need to go embarass some folks adam! DO IIIIT and videotape it
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ke0ki2k
EXACTLY, which is why you need to go embarass some folks adam! DO IIIIT and videotape it
the biggest embarrassment is how clean adam's car is especially since it never see's rain or snow.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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actually, my car spent the first year of its life as my 100% daily driver, seeing ever form of weather..snow, ice, rain, etc.

However since painting it this summer, it will never see non hose induced precipitation again, if I can help it
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Yeah man, I agree above. I know youre not big on the quarter-mile thing, but that would quantify the work in a setting we all can appreciate and understand.

Id love to know what your numbers are.. 0-60, 1/4, all that stuff, if anything so I could understand exactly what impact your amazing work had in a real time setting. Which gives us all the more reason to ogle that beauty.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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like I said, its just not important enough to me to make a special trip over 2 hours long, on a day off to find out. If there was a track closer, I would
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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really though, you could also race a stock Z and see how it goes, that'd give us an idea of how much faster yours than it was at start. dont have to drive but 10 minutes
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ke0ki2k
really though, you could also race a stock Z and see how it goes, that'd give us an idea of how much faster yours than it was at start. dont have to drive but 10 minutes
Without racing, I think we can all agree that adam's 350z would smash a stocker.

Bump for a bada$$ build...
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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Of course, but by how much.

Its just difficult to comprehend his build without putting it to a reference that we can understand and compare to.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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You could easily extrapolate what the car should run in the 1/4 mile by the weight and horsepower. I just dont care about that sort of stuff, I wanted a well balanced machine and to do it a bit differently from what had been done before. I purposely went the NA route to learn more about the motor and what makes it tick, and because I already have a very fast forced induction car, and wanted to do something different. I haven't been drag racing in ages because it's just not what I'm into and I don't have the time to be into even if I wanted. My love is road racing...I don't even have time to do that anymore.

You guys could easily duplicate my build for yourselves - all the parts are listed, and see what it runs if drag is what you're into It's just not what I am into, so it makes no difference to me.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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LOL dangit Adam, its tough to call you out. Either way I think its awesome man. Seriously.

So lets say I was seriously considering going this exact route, could you pm me a ball park figure for what you had done?
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my cost and your cost would be 2 totally different things, since we assembled the motor here, and did all the swap work (taking my old motor out, and installing the new motor) in house. Also, machine work, for the heads and plenum just as an example, vary greatly from shop to shop, so there is no way for me to quantify this. You would be best off consulting an engine builder and asking what they would get for it with full head work, block machining, balancing, etc.

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