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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Sooooo how much would it take to do a similar build on an HR engine.....?
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Depends what you mean specifically. Alot of costs of these type of project is in the ancillary stuff. The other variable is the exact components you choose.
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Depends what you mean specifically. Alot of costs of these type of project is in the ancillary stuff. The other variable is the exact components you choose.
I understand that there's like $8k in suspension, brakes, wheels, tires, etc. I'm more interested in the engine mods. Not bolt-ons.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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Just an engine built 'can' cost much as tt setup
Is that help?
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I understand that there's like $8k in suspension, brakes, wheels, tires, etc. I'm more interested in the engine mods. Not bolt-ons.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 07:44 AM
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i would estimate around 10-20K depending on the parts you order and how much work you do on your own (pull out the engine....) price includes also a engine managment system
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Originally Posted by KS0385
I understand that there's like $8k in suspension, brakes, wheels, tires, etc. I'm more interested in the engine mods. Not bolt-ons.
I wasn't referring at all to the rest of the car - I've never tallied it all up, don't think I want to either! I wish it were only $8k in wheels, brakes and suspension lolol -I would have saved a good amount of cash! If I had to put a figure on it, I'd guess it would be about $10k-12k to build the engine exactly as I did (exclusive of the ITB's), including everything ancillary (pulley, clutch/flywheel), all the head work and machinist assembly, headers, bearings, assembly hardware, oil pump/pan, gasket set, etc etc. From there you have the ignition stuff, ecu, etc etc - it all adds up unfortunately That's without me counting the cost of the donor longblock I used for my build, and not including the "oops" factors - such as the first set of used heads I bought back in 05, for like $900, that turned out to be useless because the guy I got them from neglected to include the cam caps (that sucked!). But at the end of the day, it's all about having fun, and it's been a terrific learning experience. And the best part to me, it's been I think more reliable than alot of FI builds that go on (relatively speaking), and I'm not even close to bored. I absolutely love everything about the car, and I love how she's treated me so far, and I look forward to years more smiles with her! It's alot of money anyway you slice it - modding always is. At the same time though, I did it over the course of time, not all at once, so you get to take little breaks, enjoy what you've done so far, before moving onto another area of it.

For a rough idea on component costs, we have the parts pretty much all listed for sale on our website. From there, you would need to consult a professional engine builder on their labor rates for various services, etc. Add in the ancillaries you do anytime you build a motor - headgaskets, water pump, engine gasket set, hardware, bearings, etc etc etc

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i would estimate around 10-20K depending on the parts you order and how much work you do on your own (pull out the engine....) price includes also a engine managment system
yep that's the rough range - as you said, costs vary widely based on your component selection (some parts dictate needing other parts, for example).
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And then?
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and then?

when I have something to post, I will
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Just making sure you didn't forget about us We need pics of ITBs to drool over.

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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
I wasn't referring at all to the rest of the car - I've never tallied it all up, don't think I want to either! I wish it were only $8k in wheels, brakes and suspension lolol -I would have saved a good amount of cash! If I had to put a figure on it, I'd guess it would be about $10k-12k to build the engine exactly as I did (exclusive of the ITB's), including everything ancillary (pulley, clutch/flywheel), all the head work and machinist assembly, headers, bearings, assembly hardware, oil pump/pan, gasket set, etc etc. From there you have the ignition stuff, ecu, etc etc - it all adds up unfortunately That's without me counting the cost of the donor longblock I used for my build, and not including the "oops" factors - such as the first set of used heads I bought back in 05, for like $900, that turned out to be useless because the guy I got them from neglected to include the cam caps (that sucked!). But at the end of the day, it's all about having fun, and it's been a terrific learning experience. And the best part to me, it's been I think more reliable than alot of FI builds that go on (relatively speaking), and I'm not even close to bored. I absolutely love everything about the car, and I love how she's treated me so far, and I look forward to years more smiles with her! It's alot of money anyway you slice it - modding always is. At the same time though, I did it over the course of time, not all at once, so you get to take little breaks, enjoy what you've done so far, before moving onto another area of it.

For a rough idea on component costs, we have the parts pretty much all listed for sale on our website. From there, you would need to consult a professional engine builder on their labor rates for various services, etc. Add in the ancillaries you do anytime you build a motor - headgaskets, water pump, engine gasket set, hardware, bearings, etc etc etc
It's a hobby like any other, the more you are into it, the less the cost becomes an issue. My N/A build came to well over $50k but I have what I wanted. Bigger the boy, bigger the toy or something like that!
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Originally Posted by jmccarty
It's a hobby like any other, the more you are into it, the less the cost becomes an issue. My N/A build came to well over $50k but I have what I wanted. Bigger the boy, bigger the toy or something like that!
N/A build well over 50k? Why not share with us?? Got some monster under the hood! huh!
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Originally Posted by Chef-J
N/A build well over 50k? Why not share with us?? Got some monster under the hood! huh!
+1!!!

I figured 20K would get me everything I want/need... 50K???!!!
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These NA builds are making me go crazy over getting some more NA power. Unfortunately, the only things I can do are very expensive NA mods since I've already done practically every bolt-on mod available
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Originally Posted by Chef-J
N/A build well over 50k? Why not share with us?? Got some monster under the hood! huh!
Mine is a complete engine change to a Cosworth engine, heads and intake manifold plus a slew of added performance parts and serious tuning. Have a look at my profile, it's all there. Overboard for most but what I wanted.
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Originally Posted by jmccarty
Mine is a complete engine change to a Cosworth engine, heads and intake manifold plus a slew of added performance parts and serious tuning. Have a look at my profile, it's all there. Overboard for most but what I wanted.
this came to 50K???

Cosworth VQ35 CNC Big Valve Cylinder Head "Rev Up Version"
Cosworth VQ35 High Performance 95.5mm Short Block 3.5L
Cosworth Twin Intake Plenum (Ordered October 2008, delivered 11 March 2009)
Cosworth High Volume Fuel Rail Kit
Cosworth Metal Head Gasket 96mm
Cosworth Head Studs Kit VQ35
Nissan OEM Bearings
HKS Kansai Intank Fuel Pump with Relay Kit
HKS Twin Power Ignition System
HKS F-Con Vpro Engine Management Unit
HKS Valcon VCAM Plus Kit
HKS Fire Racing Plugs M35iL
HKS 480cc injectors
HKS Racing Suction Kit
HKS Oil Cooler Kit
HKS DB RS oil Temp, Oil Pressure, Water Temp and unit controller
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by OCG35
this came to 50K???

Cosworth VQ35 CNC Big Valve Cylinder Head "Rev Up Version"
Cosworth VQ35 High Performance 95.5mm Short Block 3.5L
Cosworth Twin Intake Plenum (Ordered October 2008, delivered 11 March 2009)
Cosworth High Volume Fuel Rail Kit
Cosworth Metal Head Gasket 96mm
Cosworth Head Studs Kit VQ35
Nissan OEM Bearings
HKS Kansai Intank Fuel Pump with Relay Kit
HKS Twin Power Ignition System
HKS F-Con Vpro Engine Management Unit
HKS Valcon VCAM Plus Kit
HKS Fire Racing Plugs M35iL
HKS 480cc injectors
HKS Racing Suction Kit
HKS Oil Cooler Kit
HKS DB RS oil Temp, Oil Pressure, Water Temp and unit controller
looks to me like 25k-30k
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by XM 1
looks to me like 25k-30k
I think the guy got ripped off...
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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The list is a bit longer and holistic:

Cosworth VQ35 CNC Big Valve Cylinder Head "Rev Up Version"
Cosworth VQ35 High Performance 95.5mm Short Block 3.5L
Cosworth Twin Intake Plenum
Cosworth High Volume Fuel Rail Kit
Cosworth Metal Head Gasket 96mm
Cosworth Head Studs Kit VQ35
Nissan OEM Bearings
HKS Kansai Intank Fuel Pump with Relay Kit
HKS Twin Power Ignition System
HKS F-Con Vpro Engine Management Unit
HKS Valcon VCAM Plus Kit
HKS Fire Racing Plugs M35iL
HKS 480cc injectors
HKS Racing Suction Kit
HKS Stainless Headers
HKS Front Center Pipe
HKS Hypermax III Sport suspension
HKS Oil Cooler Kit
HKS DB RS oil Temp, Oil Pressure, Water Temp and unit controller
HKS 6 pot front and 4 pot rear breaks.
Mine's Straight Pipe Kit
Kakimoto Racing Dual Exhaust
Exedy Hyper Series Carbon Twin Clutch Kit
Nismo GT Pro LSD 1.5 Way
Arc Full Aluminum Radiator
Carbing oil collector tank 10mm
Carbing Aluminum Front Strut Bar With M/CS
C's Short Shifter Kit w/Nismo GT Titanium Shift ****
Carbing Radiator Cooling Plate
Varis CF Air Duct

50k included labor for the build and tuning and that is at a slight premium to get this parts list into Singapore from Japan and the US.

This started as just a block and heads change and kept going until there was nothing else to add to it as far as I'm concerned.

This is in a country where a 350Z costs $100k http://www.nissan.com.sg/lookfor/350z/350z_price.cfm and getting ripped off starts when you buy any new car.

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