I suppose anything is possible, but you have to first take into account the space you have to work with

could always do it late 60's Dodge Challenger style and have a shaker hood

 

I thought I read earlier in this thread that performance gains would be minimal, if anything. That's why I suggested people must be doing it for looks only.

Congrats to ColinS for trying it. It should be an interesting project, for sure.

Interesting that the Top Secret guys actually cut out a section of their air box and put in a clear section to show the ITB's. Never underestimate the power of cool looking stuff!

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on a stock engine I personally wouldn't expect much by way of a massive power increase

 

colin do you have measurements of the hood clearance with the trumpets at its current length?

 

Colin doesn't have the kit, he is only considering it. No one knows the answer, as that is the very first question I asked Jenvey - they couldn't even tell me which of the trumpets would fit, let alone any, with the engine in the stock height location. I got turned off pretty much from that point forward, as that is as basic of a question I think as you can ask

 

Shaker hood FTMFW!

 

Oh...I'll have to find out the hard way then.

 

I've asked my tuner to find out about the clearance but if you get any details the hard way then please share.

As for performance gains, there will be minimal peak hp gains but as I'm sure most of you are aware peak hp is not the be all and end all of a 'fast' car.

 

correct I'm actually happy with my peak right now, though I still think I'd gain some with the right manifold setup. I really want to increase the midrange torque though

 

oh I have no doubt there will be some peak gain if you get cold air to them and you'll get more than me. You will not get as much as bolting a turbo or two onto it though.

My experience with itbs allows you to go aggresive with cams and still idle fine if you want peak hp.

 

the positive side to using a plenum/box with the ITB's is that if you decide to go turbo later then you dont really need to change anything and you are starting about as good as it gets intake-wise

 

For some reason I think it's easier to have a box for NA rather than have a box that will withstand the boost. I guess you can build one to do both from the get go. but then again, a NA motor requiring ITB for more power would be very hard to convert to Turbo (money and parts wise)

 

I wouldn't automatically assume this to be so

 

I have been watching this thread and really didn't want to comment as i think almost all of the questions on here were already answered on my 1st thread, but here goes. The ITB's that you see in this post were originally designed for Nissan
for their GT3? cars I believe. They are the same bodies that RJN in England runs on their cars as well. So has you can see they were designed for racing applications. As Adam has said Jenvey is not very informative when it comes to this kit,but that is because they consider to my buddy Mack's kit. Adam if you send him a PM he will answer any question that you have. Also after only about 12 months ( you would think that the 350 guys would be willing to help)we finally found someone that let us use their car for designing the airbox. I know that it seems a long time but everyone that I talked to seemed to think that they should get the complete kit,installation and tuning for free just for 2 to 3 hours. Sorry but that doesn't happen in the real world. we have just sent the prototype back to England for some revisions but it should be available shortly. It will be made of fiberglass unless someone wanted to spend crazy money for carbon fiber. the bottom line is Colin S and Ivory have both stepped up to the plate and are taking one for the team. Just remember to thank them later.
Neil

 

thanks Neil - I went in a different direction already, but will be interesting to see how it works out

 

i just cant see a company that would make something that doesnt fit, unless they offer some kind of alternate hood, preferably with a scoop/vent to bring in a charge of cold air to the itb's

 

if you read the thread, I posted earlier that the kit was designed around using mounts that positioned the engine much lower in the bay vs stock. Can it be made to fit? Sure, with shorter runners, but then you are taking torque away (but potentially increasing top end gains).

 

Hrm, seems like an interesting idea. We'd be interested in doing tuning for these systems if you could use the air box and a MAF. I'm a big NA proponent for racing purposes.

 

we're doing a tune without the ITB on Haltech then tun it again with the ITBs. Should have some results soon.

 

I am sitting back on this one .So some one out side of emerald perforomace is now in the driving seat on this ITB thing .I will be there if they need any info or help on the set up .My thing is this do you guy have a clue what it cost is to make a ITB set up for any engine. from paper or pc to the car take's a long time and a **** load of cash 30k + on some kits .this is only part of what you do not see .Test fitting and shipping the part's all over the place before you get it on your car .
Think of this when you post on how long it take's before it hit's the Street .
What will it cost for this set up ?
TS price 6K and we did not see any one bat an eye at that price tag .Part of the problem is trying to keep the price down for the man on the street .
If you guy would like to see this thing move on just hold on and let the guys that have the kit there hands do there thing then you can post what you think
Mack