Lotus vs. Nismo Z
10-17-2007, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
lol, kid, you were the one that started calling people names.
Anyone can go back and look and see you were the one that came in here and started it all.
Anyone can go back and look and see you were the one that came in here and started it all.
keep posting junior...your posts are getting funnier and funnier...so um...what were those slalom numbers again?
Originally Posted by SergEK
You can never overcome the weight advantage
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10-17-2007, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Yea, the weight really helps. lol
Just so you know, our local autox this past weekend results:
5 40 Ray LeBlanc Lotus silver 61.815 60.129 59.850 59.518+1 58.887 57.003
57.003
1T 4 Ian Raden Polar Blue 2006 Lotus Exige 64.107 63.777 63.407 73.903+dnf 61.893 61.893
62.107
1T 350 Ed Quini Silverstone 2006 Nissan 350Z 60.530+1 60.779 58.940 58.017 58.455 58.017
58.495 -
2 22 Jason Garza White 2004 Nissan 350Z 65.373+1 63.518 62.830+1 62.774 62.173 61.671
61.671 3.654
Just so you know, our local autox this past weekend results:
5 40 Ray LeBlanc Lotus silver 61.815 60.129 59.850 59.518+1 58.887 57.003
57.003
1T 4 Ian Raden Polar Blue 2006 Lotus Exige 64.107 63.777 63.407 73.903+dnf 61.893 61.893
62.107
1T 350 Ed Quini Silverstone 2006 Nissan 350Z 60.530+1 60.779 58.940 58.017 58.455 58.017
58.495 -
2 22 Jason Garza White 2004 Nissan 350Z 65.373+1 63.518 62.830+1 62.774 62.173 61.671
61.671 3.654
10-17-2007, 07:50 PM
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^ agreed.
It also makes a difference if the Elise/Exige had LSD. These cars were designed for the circuit in mind over parking lot cone dodging. The cars are set up with an open diff to optimize turn-in for circuit-type corners. However, that puts them at a disadvantage in parking lot cone dodging, where they tend to spin the inside tire coming out of tight turns.
From 06, Lotus grudgingly offered LSD as an option to appease the cone dodgers, but we have no idea if the cars listed in the results have it installed.
It also makes a difference if the Elise/Exige had LSD. These cars were designed for the circuit in mind over parking lot cone dodging. The cars are set up with an open diff to optimize turn-in for circuit-type corners. However, that puts them at a disadvantage in parking lot cone dodging, where they tend to spin the inside tire coming out of tight turns.
From 06, Lotus grudgingly offered LSD as an option to appease the cone dodgers, but we have no idea if the cars listed in the results have it installed.
10-23-2007, 11:34 AM
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here we go...Road and Track:
.96 skidpad for the Nismo <---which is awesome for a est. 3400lbs car
13.7 1/4 mile
69.4mph slalom
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...nda-Nissan.pdf
.98 skidpad for elise
13.4 1/4 mile
71.1 mph slalom
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...lise_panel.pdf
.96 skidpad for the Nismo <---which is awesome for a est. 3400lbs car
13.7 1/4 mile
69.4mph slalom
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...nda-Nissan.pdf
.98 skidpad for elise
13.4 1/4 mile
71.1 mph slalom
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...lise_panel.pdf
10-23-2007, 11:40 AM
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wow! these little buggers get to 13.1s
http://www.dragtimes.com/Lotus-Elise-Timeslip-9674.html
only mods lightweight battery, A048...
http://www.dragtimes.com/Lotus-Elise-Timeslip-9674.html
only mods lightweight battery, A048...
10-23-2007, 12:07 PM
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"Do you own a NISMO Z? Have you ever driven one? Have you tested it to its limits against the Lotus yourself? Didn't think so."
Its amazing how defensive people get over a simple car comparison. You act like your better than everyone else because you have a NISMO Z. Its a great car, and I'm not putting it down at all, but you think you are better than the regular Zs? Because you spent $38k rather than $32k? Please. I spent $40k for my ZR but I dont rub it in peoples faces that I have the freedom to put my top down whenever I please.
You have a great car, yes, but you drive a Z, like EVERYONE else here.
Please get off your pedestal because you have no reason to be up there.
/end rant
Its amazing how defensive people get over a simple car comparison. You act like your better than everyone else because you have a NISMO Z. Its a great car, and I'm not putting it down at all, but you think you are better than the regular Zs? Because you spent $38k rather than $32k? Please. I spent $40k for my ZR but I dont rub it in peoples faces that I have the freedom to put my top down whenever I please.
You have a great car, yes, but you drive a Z, like EVERYONE else here.
Please get off your pedestal because you have no reason to be up there.
/end rant
10-23-2007, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by xelaremnarc
"Do you own a NISMO Z? Have you ever driven one? Have you tested it to its limits against the Lotus yourself? Didn't think so."
Its amazing how defensive people get over a simple car comparison. You act like your better than everyone else because you have a NISMO Z. Its a great car, and I'm not putting it down at all, but you think you are better than the regular Zs? Because you spent $38k rather than $32k? Please. I spent $40k for my ZR but I dont rub it in peoples faces that I have the freedom to put my top down whenever I please.
You have a great car, yes, but you drive a Z, like EVERYONE else here.
Please get off your pedestal because you have no reason to be up there.
/end rant
Its amazing how defensive people get over a simple car comparison. You act like your better than everyone else because you have a NISMO Z. Its a great car, and I'm not putting it down at all, but you think you are better than the regular Zs? Because you spent $38k rather than $32k? Please. I spent $40k for my ZR but I dont rub it in peoples faces that I have the freedom to put my top down whenever I please.
You have a great car, yes, but you drive a Z, like EVERYONE else here.
Please get off your pedestal because you have no reason to be up there.
/end rant
it's a viable question. if you didn't drive in both then how can you compare? i did respond saying i drove both at 'streets of willow'. but he didn't believe me and said that 'no one would lend me the keys to a 38K car'...like it was a ferrari or something...lol. did i go ***** out on the track..no...that's disrespectful to the owner..but i did manage to drive them relatively quick (7-8/10ths) and got a good feel for them.
of course when i posed the question to him...there was no response.
Originally Posted by gohandbz88
Those are some nice comparison numbers. Amazing how close they are.
Nismo Z: 11.6 lbs/hp
Elise: 11.2 lbs/hp
Wow, the S2k CR pulls 0.99gs on the skidpad!!!
Nismo Z: 11.6 lbs/hp
Elise: 11.2 lbs/hp
Wow, the S2k CR pulls 0.99gs on the skidpad!!!
10-24-2007, 08:45 AM
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Lets all stop bitching and put our ***** on the table here. I am down to track race, autox against a lotus elise some one find one, and a camera crew and lets put this to bed. let the best car win.
10-24-2007, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by alexfair
Lets all stop bitching and put our ***** on the table here. I am down to track race, autox against a lotus elise some one find one, and a camera crew and lets put this to bed. let the best car win.
let me know where and when so i can take vids and pics!!<---cvt, using any excuse to get out to a track day/meet
10-24-2007, 09:13 AM
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I raced a Lotus Elise at Memphis motorsports park road course,our times were really close and my NISMO is completely stock,when I buy wheels and tires he will be the one having trouble keeping up.I never said the NISMO was faster but a race between the two comes down to who's the better driver.
10-24-2007, 10:12 AM
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having a race setup like this introduces quite a few variables (driver skill and weight). I don't think this can give a definitive answer unless one person drives both cars and do trial runs.
10-24-2007, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by alexfair
Lets all stop bitching and put our ***** on the table here. I am down to track race, autox against a lotus elise some one find one, and a camera crew and lets put this to bed. let the best car win.
Originally Posted by spf4000
I'm in the LA area, own an Elise and and I'm more than open for this. Let's set up a track day to meet up and compare! 
10-25-2007, 01:12 PM
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Oh, and after reading the lawsuit outcome of the CGT driver/passenger at Calspeedway, I want to emphasize that this is a friendly comparison, not a race. We're going to compare the handling characteristics of our cars to see the +-. We ARE NOT going to be racing. Last thing I want is a lawsuit resulting from something happening at the track.
