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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg


I am the king of trolls huh?
If you didn't say it yourself, your emoticon would have said it for you. My post was nothing but a troll honey pot. It will be interesting to see who the other members of your royal court are...
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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This note is for 280ZXT. I know you come from a different generation and I share your concerns about incivility of some of the posters in this forum.

However, as a web admin, I can tell you most of them aren't who they say they are. Most are probably kids who who have infiltrated the forum or are just isolated individuals who are just looking for some way to be more important than they really are. The technical term for them is a "troll." The term "troll" comes from the old days of Usenet but is still a handy term when trying to identify those people who thrive on baiting others into some sort of emotional response, one that is usually negative.

The best way to deal with a troll is to ignore them. Without attention, they go away. Unfortunately, this thread is almost entirely comprised of trolls so it is probably lost. Did Alex set himself up for flaming? Yes he did. But does that mean that people have to take the opportunity to make try and make themselves look better by pointing out the fallibility of another? No. A normal person reads this thread and moves on.

This type of thread, however, is where the "troll" thrives. They live for the opportunity to deride others as a means of making themselves look smarter or more important than they really are. Believe me, I don't fully understand this phenomenon, but it's definitely one that your boy Freud would have had a field day with. These guys either haven't had a date in this century or lack the equipment to do anything about it if they did. The person who responds to my thread will be the king of the trolls, mark my word.

Good luck and hope to see you at some of the Z rallies here in Indy, and thanks for the honorable defense of a fellow Z owner. I wish there were more people like yourself on the internet.

Peace,

~Brad
Brad - I am 52 years old and my posts on this thread started as questioning a 19 year old with two accidents in the rain in a one month period. You say he set himself up for flaming and then, what? You complain that people flame. I'm not better than him, just seemingly smarter. I spun my car off the road at ZDayZ 4 years ago, dry pavement no less. I upgraded the suspension and tires, went to the track a few times, and learned how to drive within the cars, and my, limits. I didn't post up my idiocy, and I didn't repeat it immediately after getting out it out of the shop. Actually, I got through it without a scratch, lucky me. But I blamed it on my own idiocy, not on the obvious fact that the Z in the rain is not to be pushed to the limits which the OP was obviously doing. \
I have not had a "date" in 24 years but that is OK because I have been happily married for that time; my wife rocks in ways that a 19 year old would never understand and could never appreciate. I do not need some internet poser explaining Freud to me, or using it to explain why I post what I do. The only flaming I have done is in response to posers who find it necessary to embellish their posts with all of their material possessions, most of which I find both laughable and unbelievable. Like, does anyone here know the guy with the yacht and the "fleet"? Of course not, it doesn't exist.
The original facts remain the same - kid crashes his Z twice in the rain in one month, could have easily killed someone, including himself, in both instances, and probably should get some remedial driving instruction before he gets behind the wheel again. and that is absolutely nothing to be proud of. Nice guy or not, he is a loaded cannon. And I will go out on a limb and say emphatically that no 19 year old can afford to drive a Nismo Z unless he has some type of outside financial support. Unless of course he lives in the car, drives without insurance, and eats out of the Dumpsters. Given his driving history, whoever is paying for his lifestyle is doing him no favor whatsoever, and if he gets another Nismo, we can all wait for the thread "20 year old dies, takes out family of four in the process".

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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by brad568
However, as a web admin, I can tell you most of them aren't who they say they are.
as a web admin you know the personal lives of your internet users?

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Most are probably kids who who have infiltrated the forum or are just isolated individuals who are just looking for some way to be more important than they really are.
look, i'm just tryin to have some fun, and i think we've ALL had a few good laughs in this thread

Originally Posted by brad568
The best way to deal with a troll is to ignore them. Without attention, they go away. Unfortunately, this thread is almost entirely comprised of trolls so it is probably lost. Did Alex set himself up for flaming? Yes he did. But does that mean that people have to take the opportunity to make try and make themselves look better by pointing out the fallibility of another? No. A normal person reads this thread and moves on.
nobody was trying to make themselves better than alex, its just that he was so idiotic and one just cant help but make fun of the idiot. then you have other idiots jumping in to defend their friends, so as to add some fuel to the fire

Originally Posted by brad568
This type of thread, however, is where the "troll" thrives. They live for the opportunity to deride others as a means of making themselves look smarter or more important than they really are. Believe me, I don't fully understand this phenomenon, but it's definitely one that your boy Freud would have had a field day with. These guys either haven't had a date in this century or lack the equipment to do anything about it if they did. The person who responds to my thread will be the king of the trolls, mark my word.
man you really think i'm trying to make myself look smarter than i really am by making some sarcastic comments??? lol from the sounds of your posts, you are some stick-up-the-*** type of dude who actually resembles the type of people you accuse myself of being (you don't understand the phenomenon of having a good laugh?)

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Good luck and hope to see you at some of the Z rallies here in Indy, and thanks for the honorable defense of a fellow Z owner. I wish there were more people like yourself on the internet.
@ honorable
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
Wait, wait... lets not be rash. We have yet to see pics of Mrs. 280zxt.
... this might get ugly.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by brad568
This note is for 280ZXT. I know you come from a different generation and I share your concerns about incivility of some of the posters in this forum.

However, as a web admin, I can tell you most of them aren't who they say they are. Most are probably kids who who have infiltrated the forum or are just isolated individuals who are just looking for some way to be more important than they really are. The technical term for them is a "troll." The term "troll" comes from the old days of Usenet but is still a handy term when trying to identify those people who thrive on baiting others into some sort of emotional response, one that is usually negative.

The best way to deal with a troll is to ignore them. Without attention, they go away. Unfortunately, this thread is almost entirely comprised of trolls so it is probably lost. Did Alex set himself up for flaming? Yes he did. But does that mean that people have to take the opportunity to make try and make themselves look better by pointing out the fallibility of another? No. A normal person reads this thread and moves on.

This type of thread, however, is where the "troll" thrives. They live for the opportunity to deride others as a means of making themselves look smarter or more important than they really are. Believe me, I don't fully understand this phenomenon, but it's definitely one that your boy Freud would have had a field day with. These guys either haven't had a date in this century or lack the equipment to do anything about it if they did. The person who responds to my thread will be the king of the trolls, mark my word.

Good luck and hope to see you at some of the Z rallies here in Indy, and thanks for the honorable defense of a fellow Z owner. I wish there were more people like yourself on the internet.

Peace,

~Brad
How about this for a troll post: how about you have yourself a nice, warm cup of shut the *** up?
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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As I mentioned in a previous post, English is NOT the native language of the OP. Can you speak fluent Russian? He can. He is going back to school this Fall to get a degree in his choosen field.
WTF, he's Russian?
Ask him what a pizdoon / пиздун means...
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by diwun67
How about this for a troll post: how about you have yourself a nice, warm cup of shut the *** up?
280ZXT, watch the royal court parade before your very eyes... The trolls will now defend themselves and say that it was all in good fun and they were just being funny or respond with angry epithets. This is a standard troll response. By this time, all legitimate posters have backed away and are watching to see who the kids and the losers are. Come on trolls, I know there are a few more of you out there ...
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Я таких гонщиков хреновых как ты, знаю до фига и больше. Вы все супер-водилы, и все ваши аварии происходят, как только вы начинаете ехать по правилам, и не по вашей вине. Мало того, что ты расхерачил такую редкую машину, так хоть уже будь мужчиной, и скажи:

"Я сделал глупость, не повторяйте моих ошибок."

Так нет, пооткрывал до хера профилей, и теперь гонишь какой-то гнилой базар о Бэкхеме, флотах катеров и вообще хуй проссышь о чем. Кого ебет? Подрасти, малыш... Или размести фотки катеров, жены, т.д., тогда, может быть, кто-то начнет это все воспринимать всерьез.

Или съебись с форума.

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I know so many "racers" like you. You are all great drivers, and all your accidents occur ONLY when you slow down to speed limit, and never by fault of your own. You just f'ed up such a rare car, the least you can do is be a man about it, and say:

"Look, I did something dumb, don't repeat my mistake."

But no, you opened up a miriad of accounts, and now posting all kinds of crap about Backham, fleets of boats, and who the f knows what else. Who the f cares? Grow up, kid. Or post some pics of the wife, boats, etc, maybe then someone will start taking this seriously.

Or GTFO.

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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by brad568
280ZXT, watch the royal court parade before your very eyes... The trolls will now defend themselves and say that it was all in good fun and they were just being funny or respond with angry epithets. This is a standard troll response. By this time, all legitimate posters have backed away and are watching to see who the kids and the losers are. Come on trolls, I know there are a few more of you out there ...
lol, you guys are too easy. By you guys I mean you who take yourselves so very seriously. Go on, break me down and my response some more, your vocabulary and typing skills are quite impressive. Excuse me while I go beat off to your superior intellect...
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by brad568
280ZXT, watch the royal court parade before your very eyes... The trolls will now defend themselves and say that it was all in good fun and they were just being funny or respond with angry epithets. This is a standard troll response. By this time, all legitimate posters have backed away and are watching to see who the kids and the losers are. Come on trolls, I know there are a few more of you out there ...
this example above makes you a kid then?
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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lol i'm 19 and i own a nismo i felt the bad paying before the 2 things occured... now im sure they will just drop me.
You should be dropped from your insurance. You at 19 have displayed an absolute lack of all common sense behind the wheel. I don't feel sorry for you. In fact it's "A$$-Hats" like you that make it bad for everyone elses insurance rates. Bad luck my a$$..... You're just stupid.
Maybe next time you'll be lucky enough to Kill someone or yourself.
The biggest problem with your car is the Idiot behind the wheel.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 02:36 AM
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Holy chit, this thread is EPIC!!!


I leave for couple days and holy chit!!!! I'm speechless!!!!

Flame on fellow members!
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Originally Posted by brad568
280ZXT, watch the royal court parade before your very eyes... The trolls will now defend themselves and say that it was all in good fun and they were just being funny or respond with angry epithets. This is a standard troll response. By this time, all legitimate posters have backed away and are watching to see who the kids and the losers are. Come on trolls, I know there are a few more of you out there ...
As for trolls, heres the definition:

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
I dont see how many of the people bringing up points lately have been trolls as most responses have been on topic regarding the lack of OP's driving ability or in regard to your and 280Z's responses. Most of them are actually knowledgable and active members of the Z community, even from out behind thier computers. I've even met Perf about two months ago at a meet. An outstanding guy.

I personally dont care what the OP does to make money, or how he came to acquire a nismo. What I do care about it the fact that he cannot handle a car of that caliber as his driving record clearly shows, and that he does not accept personal responsibility for the outcome of his actions. This is where the flames have been coming from, they have just been compounded due to his age and the trend that young Z drivers commonly wreck thier cars.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
Wait, wait... lets not be rash. We have yet to see pics of Mrs. 280zxt.

She might be in here:

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Originally Posted by brad568
280ZXT, watch the royal court parade before your very eyes... The trolls will now defend themselves and say that it was all in good fun and they were just being funny or respond with angry epithets. This is a standard troll response. By this time, all legitimate posters have backed away and are watching to see who the kids and the losers are. Come on trolls, I know there are a few more of you out there ...
Interesting that you're posting in a thread that's attracting trolls. Can't ignore it, can you?

For a web admin, you're very presumptuous of the rest of us. You have no idea who we are or what we do, but it's not that important. Most of us are generational enthusiasts.

I applaud you for coming here to post and try your hand at being civil. Don't get caught up like the other guy who thinks he knows better than everybody.

As for the roundabout, if everyone is having problems with that oily patch, then maybe the city should go and clean it up.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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Only if she looks like Mr. 280ZXT in drag, which I suspect she might.\
Relax Brad, I'm just having a laugh here.
Steve...I'm disappointed due to the fact that we actually know one another and you know my wife. We've hung out at the same shows for some 4-5 years now. Just not making the connection? That's OK, she will be looking forward to seeing you in Cleveland so you can call her an ugly, crossingdressing person to her face. Will your wife be joining this event too? If you prefer, to resolve sooner, I can give you quick call at home, don't worry, I already have your phone number. Let me know.


Brad...Look forward to seeing you around a Z event sometime.


For the rest, I'm really bored with all of this and actually surprised its still going on. Things some will do for entertainment. I'm putting a fork in this one and calling it done. I'm out of here.

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Wow. That's all I can say.
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