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Old 07-13-2005, 09:45 AM
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I was wondering how bad would the wheel spin be with a 150 shot from say a 40 roll? I intend on using it at the track where ill have slicks but in case anything arises on the street where i might need to put something in its place, do you think from 40 mph with Pirelli P Neros 275 width, the wheelspin would be unbearable?
Old 07-13-2005, 12:12 PM
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Should be no wheel spin @ all.

Years ago I was running 200hp+ direct port shot and would not get wheel slip. Although it does depend quite a bit on road surface. It sounds like your wanting to run on the interstate so you should be alright.
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Keep us informed on the out come.

Im running a hundred shot right now, and really considering increasing it.
Old 07-13-2005, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gators2001
Keep us informed on the out come.

Im running a hundred shot right now, and really considering increasing it.

how do you like it so far? i am considering going this route as well and looking for some feedback
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When I had my 19s, I would get MAJOR wheel spin with just a 100 shot from anything under 50 mph! And that was with 285 wide Dunlops. I have the stock 17s now, but haven't tried it under 50 again.
Old 07-14-2005, 04:16 AM
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It depends on which gear U're in as well. If I'm in second ( A/T ) & hit my ZEX 100 hp shot, the 275/35/18 Nittos don't have a chance! That's why the NX Maximizer is such a great tuning tool!! I can proram it to gradually ramp the power in as the rpms increase & a different ramp map in each gear. Obviously I can dump all the 100 hp in at once in third gear ( usually around 70-75 mph ) because traction's not an issue at that speed or rpm. Thinking about moving up to 125 jetting until I have Rabbid install my Vortech. Than I'll have to jet down & configure things for a seamless power curve utilizing the nitrous to get me into boost & then ramping it down as boost increases.
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yea thats one thing with nittos though, if there not heated up they spin like any cheap tire, i had them on my car before and when they were heated up they worked beautifully but when cold they just spun. My pirellie P Neros now are good no matter what though. I should have this kit installed after i get the parts in which will be about 7-10 days from now.
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Originally Posted by georgiaboy
how do you like it so far? i am considering going this route as well and looking for some feedback

I have juiced the 100 shot like 6 times. HUGE difference!!! Havent spun on a roll yet. (dont remember the speed, I just get to happy someone wants to race me and let them have the jump and watch there surprised face when i drive on by). Did it once out of the hole against a GTO, spun all through third and stayed with him once my tires caught it was the end of the story.

I have a maxizimer, but im shooting pure 100% to enjoy the JOLT. Will tweak it soon to improve my launch.
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Originally Posted by raptorbh12
I was wondering how bad would the wheel spin be with a 150 shot from say a 40 roll? I intend on using it at the track where ill have slicks but in case anything arises on the street where i might need to put something in its place, do you think from 40 mph with Pirelli P Neros 275 width, the wheelspin would be unbearable?
I am controlling my 100 shot via a Maximizer controlled via a laptop. I have it set to ramp that shot from 35 @ 3000 rpms to 100 @ 3800 and still get massive wheelspin on the street @ anything below 50 mph or so. I could not imagine how much spin I would have if I did not ramp the shot at all. I am running street tires, however these tires have been good for 1.9's on sixty foot times, so I would consider them above average street tires.

With a 150 shot, I myself would not spray at 100% for anything under 60 to 70 mph.
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you will spin
Old 07-14-2005, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderPressure
Should be no wheel spin @ all.

Years ago I was running 200hp+ direct port shot and would not get wheel slip. Although it does depend quite a bit on road surface. It sounds like your wanting to run on the interstate so you should be alright.
200 shot on what!?

he will spin on pirelllis
Old 07-15-2005, 05:06 AM
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yea once i wear down my pirellis i should get a set of nittos when its warm out but nittos in the winter would be a horrible idea so ill stick with my neros for the rest of this season. Also i think if i hit the 150 shot in 1st gear i will def spin but if i flip the switch once i hit second im sure i have enough speed at 4000 rpms to prevent me from spinning.
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what about settin up a diff shot in each gear? like:

1st - 25
2nd - 50
3rd - 75
4th - 100
5th - 125

i'm sure that would help. can it even b done w/ a maximizer though?
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Show - That's the beauty of the Maximizer!! Yes, U CAN set up a different shot in every gear & also adjust the rpm at which it comes in as well as its' ramp-up speed. It does it ( via percentage ) by pulsating the solenoids so the only downside I can see is wearing those out sooner than ones on a standard nitrous kit ( especially when ya spray @ almost every opportunity!! ).
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well im sure it can be done with a maximizer but im not sure because i dont own one. Right now with the zex setup, i cant adjust the shot size because its controlled by the jet sizes that go into my sprayer nozzle. My plan is to have have the bottles open and when i get through 1st gear ill flip the switch for the 150 shot so i get it around 40-45mph in 2nd gear. I think this will work best at the track and hopefully on the street.
Old 07-22-2005, 11:46 AM
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Do you have 275 series tires on your stock 8" wide rims? Did you buy a N20 kit? Two of the fastest n/a Z's on the east coast, both in MD, now one is going FI, one is going N20, things are about to get interesting
Old 08-01-2005, 09:37 AM
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yea i just realized i have 245's my bad. I was thinking of my drag radials(which are long gone) . Anyone know if you can use a maximizer with a zex kit? or can you not control the shot size no matter what with a zex kit?
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you guys know that once you have FI and N20 there's gonna be a huge showdown and i'm gonna videotape it all right? lol
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Originally Posted by JRaptor2000
you guys know that once you have FI and N20 there's gonna be a huge showdown and i'm gonna videotape it all right? lol
Of course Bobby will be my first kill with the Turbo kit BTW Bobby Im still waiting to see your post regarding your N20 kit, driving impressions, ect....
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HA HAHAhahahaha. o bert your funny. well see how it goes.


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