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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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Do you need to be able to switch around your a/f maps to spray? My concern is I have the base model w/out cruise control so I can't switch on the fly?
Can I still spray?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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general rule of thumb is to pull 1 or 2 degrees of timing for every 100 you are spraying
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did a 100 shot for a while, 1 step colder plugs, stock timing, window switch, wot switch, wideband, kept melting plugs, added meth injection, then it made terrible detonation. pulled the meth off and still had problems, was never lean, a/f were low and was always rich. will a/fs be different depending on what gear you are in? for example, will 5000rpm in first gear have the same a/f as 5000rpm in 4th gear on spray? i think i almost always monitored my a/fs in first, but would spray pretty high. i have an auto too.

i now have no compression in cyl #4, in the process of building a fully bolted NA and will get a professional tune for a 150 shot
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryd87
general rule of thumb is to pull 1 or 2 degrees of timing for every 100 you are spraying
Actually, general rule is 2* per 50 shot. I pulled timing and it didn't help.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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^ And that's a rarity. All other Zs have had no issues (for future reference).

Also, +1 on pulling 2º of timing for every 50 shot.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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Yea, mine just didn't like nitrous for some reason or another
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
^ And that's a rarity. All other Zs have had no issues (for future reference).

Also, +1 on pulling 2º of timing for every 50 shot.

i have 125 shot on stock timing.....so far so good.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 2bad240
i have 125 shot on stock timing.....so far so good.
Jealous!!!
Direct port?
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mgrotel
Jealous!!!
Direct port?
no i have a 100 on a single wet fogger and a secondary 25 dry.

here you can see both nozzles on my new intake. i just installed it today.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Wow, be careful bro, might want to do it all wet, I'd also move the nozzles a little closer to the throttle body too. But either way, that's cool, bet it feels good
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 04:28 AM
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it has worked good so far for me so im not gonna change it yet. i have thought about switching the 2nd stage to a 50 wet but i havnt done it yet. and with this new intake the nozzles are both about 2 inches closer than what they were with my old intake.

but yea i drove it lastnight and it felt real good. i cant wait to get it back to the track. maybe i can make that #1 time harder to get.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 2bad240
no i have a 100 on a single wet fogger and a secondary 25 dry.

here you can see both nozzles on my new intake. i just installed it today.
Nice!!! Did you install the diff bushing yet?
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by denchan350gt
Nice!!! Did you install the diff bushing yet?
thanks.
no not yet. they keep telling us we will be leaving for japan and pushing it back everyweek, now we have to go to japan, Beaufort sc. and mals 14 wants some testing done too all that along with this storm i havnt had time to do alot.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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eh i always did 1-2 per 100 on my camaros and never had a problem, outside of the stock 305 with a performer rpm air gap running a 300 shot through a jacobs mastermind controller(was a 75 shot at 3000 rpms, 300 shot from 5500-6500.) pulled 6 degrees of timing and ran the coldest copper plugs i could find for it melted a piston after about 26 passes down the quarter. was fine once i had it bored and switched the cast pistons for hyper's
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Actually, general rule is 2* per 50 shot. I pulled timing and it didn't help.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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you cant compare a v8 to a vq
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 2bad240
no i have a 100 on a single wet fogger and a secondary 25 dry.

here you can see both nozzles on my new intake. i just installed it today.
Just curious, why did you chose that set up? Why not a single 125 shot wet?
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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Just curious, why did you chose that set up? Why not a single 125 shot wet?
i read about the main problem with nitrous isnt the hp hurting the engines. its the torque.

so i have a 100 wet on a wot switch right off the line. and then have the 25 dry on a button, that i engage in second gear. just playing it safe. but im still on stock timing. stock tune. just raised the rev limiter to 7200 but i have 1 step colder plugs. i may move it to a 125 wet +25 dry in the future. but its working great for now and i have the fastest nitrous time right now. and i just did a bunch of changes on the car. im hoping to hit 11.5x on a 125 this fall.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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wait, when is your 100 engaging? off idle or a certain rpm?

and dry shot is not considered safer, a 125 wet would be safer than a 100 wet and 25 dry
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mgrotel
wait, when is your 100 engaging? off idle or a certain rpm?

and dry shot is not considered safer, a 125 wet would be safer than a 100 wet and 25 dry
well i launch out at about 6k and soon as i move i go full throttle and it comes on.

i have had it on the dyno and the a/f was around 12.8-13.2 with both shots on.
that was making 360/380 to the wheels on a dynojet, running stock map with rev limiter raised. that was also before longtube headers, ported lower plenum, takeda intake, ported tb.

i will go to the dyno next week one day and redyno it.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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Yikes, a/f in the 13s on spray, idk man
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