Notices
Northern California San Francisco, Oakland, Sacramento, San Jose, Pleasanton, etc.

How to Beat a Radar Ticket in California

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-03-2005, 10:00 PM
  #1  
Egbert Souse
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Egbert Souse's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Roadcourses of SoCal
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default How to Beat a Radar Ticket in California

I just beat a ticket for (ahem, well) over 100 mph in a 70 mph zone on I-5. The best advice is hire traffic ticket defense attorney extraordinare Sherman Ellison of Sherman Oaks, CA.

Here is how he did it. The CHP is required by law to have their radar guns certified every 30 months. The officer who cited me came to court today with a photocopy of a radar gun accuracy test performed by a lab at San Diego State University in May 2004 (well within 30 months ago). That document is INADMISSIBLE HEARSAY. For all you non-lawyers, that means that the proof that the radar gun was tested and accurate can't come into evidence at trial. They would have had to bring the lab technician from SDSU in to testify at trial that he performed the test and that the certification document was authentic, which of course the prosecution did not do. There are exceptions to the hearsay rule, but Mr. Ellison convinced the Judge (who hated his guts and wanted to find me guilty if he could, but he had to follow the law) that the exceptions did not apply.

Victory is mine !!!
Old 01-03-2005, 11:15 PM
  #2  
Shift33
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Shift33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 365
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How much was the lawyer fee?
Old 01-04-2005, 05:29 AM
  #3  
Z-INCOGNITO
New Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Z-INCOGNITO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Go A's
Posts: 3,653
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How about a ticket when you are paced?
Old 01-04-2005, 08:33 PM
  #4  
Egbert Souse
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Egbert Souse's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Roadcourses of SoCal
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

This, of course, is not legal advice.

First, re-read the first post on this thread. If you got a RADAR ticket, there should come a point in the cop's testimony when he shows the judge the radar gun certification form. At that point say "OBJECTION, HEARSAY." Then ask the cop if he relied on this doument to determine if his radar gun was accurate. He will say yes. Object again, on hearsay grounds. If the Judge asks you what you mean, say, "this document has not been authenticated and lacks foundation." If the cop does not introduce the radar certification, ask him for it. As soon as he gives it to you, start with the words OBJECTION HEARSAY and follow the instructions above.

If the Judge asks why the hearsay exception for government records does not apply, say "San Diego State Univ. (or whatever lab did the testing) is not a state government agency." If the Judge asks why the "business records exception" does not apply, say "the document still must be authenticated, and no custodian of records testifiied, so the document lacks foundation."

The same goes for "pacing" where the cop followed you. He needs to have is speedomoter calibrated. Do the same thing with the calibration docuement as you would with the radar certification form
Attached Thumbnails How to Beat a Radar Ticket in California-spring-mtn-evo-001.jpg  
Old 01-05-2005, 09:38 AM
  #5  
whatever
Veteran
iTrader: (2)
 
whatever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: NorCal
Posts: 3,014
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

good stuff!!
wonder if this will work with self representation? ie. without lawyer....
Old 01-05-2005, 10:52 AM
  #6  
hfm
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
hfm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: The Val
Posts: 7,527
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Nice info Rich.
Old 01-05-2005, 11:47 AM
  #7  
MGV156
Registered User
 
MGV156's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NorCal
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by whatever
good stuff!!
wonder if this will work with self representation? ie. without lawyer....
I'll let you guys know tomorrow....
Old 01-05-2005, 12:31 PM
  #8  
fowlman01
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
fowlman01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NorCal
Posts: 16,155
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Great info!!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattg350z
Buying/Leasing
4
10-02-2015 06:51 AM
jlc280z
Upcoming Events
0
09-24-2015 08:43 AM
wayneside
South East
0
09-23-2015 02:38 AM



Quick Reply: How to Beat a Radar Ticket in California



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:15 PM.