I'd take off the wing if I could make the rest legit for BSP. I think I need some door panel thingamajig to make that happen though. Otherwise I need to add some HP to run in XP. Is the wing illegal for SM2? I chose that class this year with plans of boosting, but I've pulled out of that plan.

It was a good day. UFO AX this am, LM AX this afternoon. It was busy with a lot of driving and a lot of tire changing, but it was fun. Ended the night with a CA cruise up Rt 9 in the 300ZX TT - it's a bit more comfortable than the green machine.

 

Your lack of interior is illegal in SM2, you've got your car pretty much non classable for SCCA stuff (except for XP and EM)

 

sounds like you had an eventful day.

 

Just bought some Tomei V2's...I am excite.

 

You'd need to do a lot more than take off wing and put all interior panels in the car to become BSP legal. You'd have to put stock body work back on the car too. I dont think your suspension is BSP legal either. The dreaded no bushings with more metal rule. Suspect it has a few other non street class mods if its a track car.

The car as it sits is very much an XP car. Unsure why its being driven a lower PAX Street Mod class? However I doubt anyone would protest you since you are VP of Nor Cal UFO. LOL! But you are driving well enough now you proabably should go to XP so you dont upset people who care about PAX standings - there are some real Pax nerds who you might upset. Usually guys in Miatas or Honda Civics. LOL! Reduced weight is a big advantage over HP espeically on UFO like courses so I dont see you being at much of a disadvantage to XP EVOs and Subi's that run in UFO.

But given XP cars that run at UFO you are safe. No cars other than that one EVO that make huge HP. SM2 EVO was faster than him though yesterday. Whats the worry about XP?

UFO adheres to SCCA class rules from sometime in the past. Pretty clear what you can and cannot do related to interior and exterior bidy work in SCCA Street Mod and Street Prepared classes. Here is PDF with all the specifics on rules. I have been reading up a lot and asking lots of questions this year as I'm getting ready to turn my street car into a national level Street Prepared car. Was also considering SSM with a turbo car but that would be crazy class to build to and I'd have to run against guys like Andy Mckee in 500 HP 2500 lb RX7. Andy could probably beat me in a stock RX7 so thought of going against him in SSM wasnt appealing to me.

http://www.scca.com/documents/2011%2...lo%20Rules.pdf

 

I wouldn't protest because he shouldn't stand a chance in PAX anyway with the SM2 index...

That said...rules are rules. I have to tape over my front duct at D.C.....just to point out the ridiculous.

 

Sounds like XP it is - I don't have a problem with that. At some point someone said I was ok to run it in OSP, which I don't believe is a nationally-recognized class.

Sure did. Up Alpine Rd., then weaved through the hills without another car in sight. Just me, a friend as passenger, and t-tops out listening to the sounds of the woods. It was a great night for a drive.

Score!

Thanks for the link. I've never really dabbled much into the rules since I'm not out there to win a national championship. I ran the car in OSP last year per Dennis Hale's suggestion; it has nothing to do with being VP of UFO. As Mike said, I'd be outmatched at a regional or national level in SM2 anyway, so it really doesn't matter (to me or others at least). I'm out there to have fun, and as you said, you can "win" a group just by showing up. Last year, however, there were a few OSP Miatas that showed up often enough to keep me on my toes to have to show up for all but one event. I'm happy to run in the appropriate class, which sounds like XP. Maybe I'll add some horsepower while I'm at it!

It's a track car that I sometimes autox, so I'm not about to go making major changes to put it into an easier class. I took the door panels out so that I could fit two tires on the passenger seat with the roll bar. The weight savings there is minimal. PAX means nothing to 95% of the people there, I don't care if my PAX factor is 1.1, I just want to go around the course fast - period. My Z is about 3200# wet, so it's not like it is some high power / low weight machine. It makes like 255/260rwhp on a good day.

Right. Again - it's a track car that I autox. If someone protested, I'd agree with them and move on. At the end of the day, I just want to cross the finish line faster than the cars ahead and behind me, including 360awhp Evos on E85. I haven't seen this month's results yet, but last month I would have been 0.4s out of 1st in XP to an Evo (TToD, 5th PAX), and would have taken 2nd over 3rd by 0.3s to the XP Subi (7th overall, 9th PAX).

 

OSP is similar to BP (except BP used to be nationally recognized)....regional only.

 

I think you may be making a bit of a personal assumption that only 5% of people at UFO care about PAX scores. If no one cared why post pax scores for UFO events and name top pax placer? I personally dont care but I have been read the riot act by SCCA guys who are a bit kookie about pax. I forgot that Dennis let OSP in as a class. Well thats a sandbagger class if I ever saw one! So I guess if you care about doing well go OSP and if you want to swim with the sharks go for XP. LOL!

I got protested over a stupid technicality in UFO so I'm a little pissy when it comes to people at UFO saying classing doesnt matter. So now I drive a BSP Class Z in ASP at UFO events while with SCCA and AAS I run BSP with no chance of protest. Not that I care about running in ASP but I cared that somone would be petty enough to protest me. I worked with Peggy to make it go away and we had a good laugh. Ultimately it didnt matter as guys in BSP run in same heat so I can still get accurate benchmarks to the BSP cars. Its important to me to run proper class as Marina is one of the few concrete courses similar to Lincoln so I can get an idea of how my car is setup for national level competition aginst other fast local BSP cars. We do have a few guys who drive UFO occasionally that do go to regional and national level SCCA events.

Now to confuse you more my car will be moved into ASP class with SCCA next year. So I will run BSP with UFO with no chance of protest and ASP with SCCA. That is of course unless my appeal to have 370 Z put into the new BSP is heard. Got that?

 

I can almost guarantee you that the 370 nismo will not be moved to the "new" BSP....

 

I know but you cant blame me for trying ...right? Ido have a couple people on my side in high places. LOL!

 

Hmm sounds like your sandbagging based on posted stats on your car? After seeing everything on your list it would be tough to go back to BSP for you. All those suspension pieces are likely not BSP legal.


03' Z33 track car GREEN -
Koni-based DA True Choice Coilovers with custom spring rates
Cusco Sway Bars
SPL Front Control Arms with race bushings
SPL PRO Rear Camber Arms
SPL PRO Front Lower Arm Bushings
StopTech 332mm Brake Upgrade
StopTech Slotted Rotors
StopTech SS Brakelines
Brembo rear brake kit
Black Enkei RPF1 18x10s with 305/30 Kumho V710s for autox
Black Enkei RPF1 18x10.5 with 285/30 Hoosier R6 tires for track events
Black Enkei RPF1 18x8.5 / 18x9.5 with 265/275 Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Specs for street
K&N Typhoon Intake
UR Crank Pulley
UR UD Pulleys
Osiris UpRev tuned by Z Car Garage (271rwhp/252rwtq)
Motordyne Plenum Spacer
Stock, Ported Headers
Motordyne Shockwave ))) Single Exhaust with Resonator and Y-pipe
Motordyne ART (test) pipes
Nismo Titanium Shift ****
Nismo V1-style Front Bumper
Authentic Top Secret Carbon Fiber Hood
Bride Ergo Seat (for sale)
Strictly Z SS Air Guide
Strictly Z Smoked Side Markers
Kirk Roll bar
G-force 5-point harnesses

Track weight: 2980#

 

I'm not trying to get back into BSP - I thought I made that clear. ? . ?

That tune was on 100 octane. I don't run the 100 anymore, it's just not worth the extra ~15rwhp. That weight was dry and when I had the stock, non-Brembo, rear brakes - quoted wet weight was with a full tank of gas and the Brembos. I've updated my profile to be more specific about these items as well as some wheel/tire changes.

 

I don't think it is intended, but this thread sure looks to have turned catty towards Scott

 

I think Grant is unloading some pent up anger from being protested this year.....just my observation.

 

Also, my car weighed 3036 with a 1/4 tank of gas....still have factory pass seat, steering wheel with airbag, radio, and a/c. Fairly certain I can get the car to a fighting weight of 2940 for a more national based campaign next year.

 

really so if I have SPL LCA bushing and a amuse front bumper I cant run in BSP anymore?

 

No.

 

fawk

 

Heh, it's all good. We're all in the Z family and drive our cars in the way that they were designed to be driven, so I'm ok with an occasional dart throw here and there. I'm curious how the XP cars did yesterday, I guess we'll soon see.