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Old 06-05-2008, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by App6MT
It's not in full power, this kills the ignition - the whole point of this box.
so it can tell if im in gear or not? thought it worked off the clutch sensor?
Old 06-05-2008, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by redzzand
so it can tell if im in gear or not? thought it worked off the clutch sensor?
You have a certain amount of time it disables it, anywhere from 25ms to 700ms, depending on how fast you shift.

Julian stated that 100ms is good for beginners.

PLUS you have a rev limiter.
Old 06-05-2008, 06:27 AM
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Can you use the 2 step feature as a "launch control" feature for us AT guys and just not wire the flat foot feature??
Old 06-05-2008, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by App6MT
You have a certain amount of time it disables it, anywhere from 25ms to 700ms, depending on how fast you shift.

Julian stated that 100ms is good for beginners.

PLUS you have a rev limiter.
so... what happens when .1 sec are up and car is not in gear? its supposed to still be in boost... you want to hit ur rev limit at full boost with no load?

i dunno about that... I just want to know what happens in such scenario... maybe im missing something...

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Old 06-05-2008, 06:52 AM
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^+1. im very interested on the 2step...
Old 06-05-2008, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by redzzand
what happens when .1 sec are up and car is not in gear? its supposed to still be in boost... you want to hit ur rev limit at full boost with no load?

i dunno about that... I just want to know what happens in such scenario... maybe im missing something...
you take your foot off the gas.

There is nothing that could prevent you from messing up your own shift like that. The rev limiter will probably be adequate since it won't mechanically overrev the engine like if you put it into 2nd instead of 4th.

I'm sure you've missed a gear at some point in your life, so you know what happens
Old 06-05-2008, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by redzzand
so... what happens when .1 sec are up and car is not in gear? its supposed to still be in boost... you want to hit ur rev limit at full boost with no load?

i dunno about that... I just want to know what happens in such scenario... maybe im missing something...
You are missing the point..This device is not any type of safety device to prevent someone who can not drive from missing gears...There is no difference if you mis-shift with or without the WOT box..All the WOT box will do is cut the ignition at WOT,and clutch depressed, for a desired amount of time (in Milliseconds, the blink of an eyelid).
If you mis-shift thats on you and will not make a difference with or without the box.
Old 06-05-2008, 07:25 AM
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WOT box in action on my car..


Old 06-05-2008, 07:39 AM
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MRC...if you're not sure about an answer for my question can you check with mr eh. I am interested in a 2 step/launch control feature.
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Originally Posted by coachk
MRC...if you're not sure about an answer for my question can you check with mr eh. I am interested in a 2 step/launch control feature.
I would assume you can activate the 2 step off of the brake switch instead of the clutch switch. All it needs to see is the TPS and clutch switch/Brake switch...I will ask Jay when i talk to him.
Old 06-05-2008, 08:47 AM
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ok, i gotta ask cause i'm curious... why ignition cut and not fuel cut?

Any concern about fouling plugs with excess fuel? Or too little to be an issue?

With the Haltech, you can ignition cut or fuel cut for a rev limiter, and mine is set to fuel cut, I think for the reason stated above, but would love to hear thoughts on this also.

(kudos for bringing an innovative product to the Z/G community! )
Old 06-05-2008, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rcdash
ok, i gotta ask cause i'm curious... why ignition cut and not fuel cut?

Any concern about fouling plugs with excess fuel? Or too little to be an issue?

With the Haltech, you can ignition cut or fuel cut for a rev limiter, and mine is set to fuel cut, I think for the reason stated above, but would love to hear thoughts on this also.

(kudos for bringing an innovative product to the Z/G community! )
Not gonna make a difference either way, the ignition cut is how the person that developed it set it up. Seems to work fine..IMHO ignition cut is always safer than fuel cut for the motor.
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Originally Posted by rcdash
ok, i gotta ask cause i'm curious... why ignition cut and not fuel cut?

Any concern about fouling plugs with excess fuel? Or too little to be an issue?

With the Haltech, you can ignition cut or fuel cut for a rev limiter, and mine is set to fuel cut, I think for the reason stated above, but would love to hear thoughts on this also.

(kudos for bringing an innovative product to the Z/G community! )


By cutting igntion and keeping the fuel on,it will act as an anti lag system....... since it will dump some raw fuel into the exhaust and once that happens,the fuel will ignite causing the turbo to stay spooled
Old 06-05-2008, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by redzzand
what happens if you mis-shift? would the motor blow up since its in full power and not in gear? This is my biggest fear of the "no lift to shift" feature.
my first wot shift = failure, i thought i just kick the clutch then shift, it grinded just like any other miss shift, no big deal... also at 3am half asleep i did it without the gas pedal fully depressed, grinded a bit, **** happens, pay attention lol... now i stomp the clutch throw the gear, let off the clutch in about 1 second im in the next gear and boosting away happily... if you miss a gear, learn to drive... if you cant shift in under .700 ms,... learn to drive, if your foot isnt on the floor while racing learn to drive.

im sure jay/julian will be happy to answer technicial questions i have been dealing with jay@n2mb for over 2 years now with my car and have quite a bit invested, 0 complaints, anything this guy made for the car i'd put on no questions asked, he would never put a product out that wasnt 100% tested & safe for people to use.

as far as using the 2 step on an automatic, i have no idea lol im just a customer of n2mb and mrc who can vouch for both... im sure julian & jay will be able to provide you with an answer in a timely fashion...
Old 06-05-2008, 12:43 PM
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how much is involved to install it and I take it comes with instructions.
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Originally Posted by mw9
how much is involved to install it and I take it comes with instructions.
if you can splice a wire you can install it. of course it comes with instructions.
Old 06-05-2008, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mw9
how much is involved to install it and I take it comes with instructions.
Takes an experienced mechanic about 1.5 hours to neatly do it. We had it soft wired in and running in about 20 minutes. Somone who is not mechanically inclined and does not know how to properly splice and solder wires, should not attempt it.
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Cool vids. Julian, your voice sounds EXACTLY like I assumed it would
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
Cool vids. Julian, your voice sounds EXACTLY like I assumed it would
Yeah I get that all the time, I get people that remember my voice from my old Phone Sex Operator days...
Old 06-05-2008, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
By cutting igntion and keeping the fuel on,it will act as an anti lag system....... since it will dump some raw fuel into the exhaust and once that happens,the fuel will ignite causing the turbo to stay spooled

+1 I was going to post this...


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