UPDATED!! GT MOTORSPORTS Sets the bar! VQ35DE 855RWHP @ 22 PSI
#83
Originally Posted by Fairlady_z33
not for nothing guys and first big congrats on the set up and power. Makes me want to go and build it.
Just one question why does the power curve go down so much when you go to high rpm's at 20 psi is it due to the turbo's running out of efficiency at high rpm's.
Just one question why does the power curve go down so much when you go to high rpm's at 20 psi is it due to the turbo's running out of efficiency at high rpm's.
sam
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How much timing around redline? Im surprised it is so conservative with race gas that hp peaks before 6000rpm...
edit I had missed this in the mods list
Nice! Cant wait for Charles to release this as I want this system
edit I had missed this in the mods list
Fuel system: CJ Motorsports Stage 3 Dual Pump (prototype)
Last edited by Alberto; 02-18-2007 at 08:08 PM.
#87
Originally Posted by thawk408
In the specs it says redline is 8k, but the power by 7k is falling a good bit. Can this be fixed to hold power up to 8k? Would it need a new intake manifold design?
Making power to redline has been in the plan since day one and I can say this confidently that we know what it is going to take to accomplish that.
BTW, We did prove that on Test Car#1 car by making power to red line with no drop in power. Test Car#1 was set up to 7000 rpm redline.
As you can see on these graphs Test Car#1 IS making power all the way to redline.
sam
Last edited by Sam@GTM; 02-18-2007 at 08:19 PM.
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jesus, just when i was getting used to my amazing 251 std power lmao. What do i drive in comparison to this chart a 3 cyc geo . God. NIce work man. Now i gotta beat on some DE civics or scions to feel better.
But in all due respect your raising the bar man.
ah damn...i work for cingular and i said that how retarted lmao
But in all due respect your raising the bar man.
ah damn...i work for cingular and i said that how retarted lmao
#90
Originally Posted by Mid117
Sam @ GTM never ceases to impress me...Congrats on the numbers!!
You mentioned you ran it on a conservative tune. Will you push it even further?
You mentioned you ran it on a conservative tune. Will you push it even further?
Just to give you a little back ground info on our operation we started building stroker kits in different platforms over 5 years ago. When we did our first Subaru 2.8 L Stroked Engine ( stock displacement 2.0L ) We drove the car for 20k miles on that stroked engine and then did a complete tear down and inspection to find the engine was in perfect condition, rods, pistons, bearings, everything was great. I'm just sharing this to show everyone how far we are going to go to produce a reliable, solid engine. So to answer your question the car will be pushed and in every aspect
sam
#92
Originally Posted by Alberto
How much timing around redline? Im surprised it is so conservative with race gas that hp peaks before 6000rpm...
edit I had missed this in the mods list
Nice! Cant wait for Charles to release this as I want this system
edit I had missed this in the mods list
Nice! Cant wait for Charles to release this as I want this system
sam
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I'm guessing adding in more timing up really high will help, but not enough to fully flatten the torque curve. With a stroked engine it's going to be harder to maintain the torque at 8000 rpms compared to the 3.5 liter engine. If you continued the 20psi run, it looks like at 8000 rpms it'd be at around 350-400 tq which is a huge drop from 742 tq @ 5100 rpms
Not only that, but I'd be willing to be the APS extreme turbos are at their most efficient around the 4000-6000rpm range, so it's going to be a fighting battle to keep the tq flat from 6000-8000 rpms. I think the turbos would have to be switched to something bigger to really flatten up the top end...
Not only that, but I'd be willing to be the APS extreme turbos are at their most efficient around the 4000-6000rpm range, so it's going to be a fighting battle to keep the tq flat from 6000-8000 rpms. I think the turbos would have to be switched to something bigger to really flatten up the top end...
Last edited by sentry65; 02-18-2007 at 09:58 PM.
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damn....Sam, you guys do great work!!!!
thanks for the tour today with Alex, James, Vince & GF
your facility is absolutely amazing...............AMAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!
Kit
p.s. NA is better!!!!!
thanks for the tour today with Alex, James, Vince & GF
your facility is absolutely amazing...............AMAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!
Kit
p.s. NA is better!!!!!
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Realize that the stock VQ35 motor flows more CFM than the 2JZ-GTE, along with a .5 displacement advantage.
Add another .74 liters, and the VQ35 has become a monster that will blow any 2JZ out of the water. The only reason there's more high-powered Supras is because it's a cast-iron block and not prone to dying. Personally, I'd rather have the cast aluminum block and pay more to get things done.
More torque, less laggy turbos (seriously now, the APS Extreme's lag is incomparable to 1000+whp Supras), and add in GTM's racing transmission and you have a car with extreme power across the entire RPM band. It will get the jump on any Supra with the same power level, and hold that lead until the race is over.
Add another .74 liters, and the VQ35 has become a monster that will blow any 2JZ out of the water. The only reason there's more high-powered Supras is because it's a cast-iron block and not prone to dying. Personally, I'd rather have the cast aluminum block and pay more to get things done.
More torque, less laggy turbos (seriously now, the APS Extreme's lag is incomparable to 1000+whp Supras), and add in GTM's racing transmission and you have a car with extreme power across the entire RPM band. It will get the jump on any Supra with the same power level, and hold that lead until the race is over.
#98
Originally Posted by CEO350Z
damn....Sam, you guys do great work!!!!
thanks for the tour today with Alex, James, Vince & GF
your facility is absolutely amazing...............AMAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!
Kit
p.s. NA is better!!!!!
thanks for the tour today with Alex, James, Vince & GF
your facility is absolutely amazing...............AMAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!
Kit
p.s. NA is better!!!!!
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here's some dynos overlayed for reference:
typical bone stock Z
A typical JWT on stock block
George@GTM's Z on the stock block with APS TT kit @12psi
4.24 stroker @ 14 psi APS TT Extreme
4.24 stroker @ 20 psi APS TT Extreme
The JWT and stock dynos were done on a dynojet, but not GTM's
typical bone stock Z
A typical JWT on stock block
George@GTM's Z on the stock block with APS TT kit @12psi
4.24 stroker @ 14 psi APS TT Extreme
4.24 stroker @ 20 psi APS TT Extreme
The JWT and stock dynos were done on a dynojet, but not GTM's
Last edited by sentry65; 02-18-2007 at 10:21 PM.
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Originally Posted by Sam@GTM
its only a matter of time before you switch over...
i know.......
FI is like forbidden candy......................for me anyways