taurran : "Testing new waters" with the Turbonetics ST
10-26-2007, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
how about we take your "XXXXXXX" built car and craigs car out for a little friendly run here soon...
Are you saying that EVERY nitrous car is slow?? basically you are because thats the same kinda graph that a nitrous car has...
again, please stay off of our threads if you dont have anything positive to say. you, along with a few other people seem to wander your way into threads to spread your debating comments trying to stir stuff up. keep this forum nice or they will be shutting it down soon...
Are you saying that EVERY nitrous car is slow?? basically you are because thats the same kinda graph that a nitrous car has...
again, please stay off of our threads if you dont have anything positive to say. you, along with a few other people seem to wander your way into threads to spread your debating comments trying to stir stuff up. keep this forum nice or they will be shutting it down soon...
they are not going to shut the forum down...
but ovbiously westpack needs to look at other TN charts and compare to this one which aint bad at all. Hope you can have some more results soon
Originally Posted by taurran
I don't think we have a backup on the exhaust side, but I actually like how the curve looks. If we can carry that over to more boost I'll be happy.
The car is running on a very basic tune. That is with no tweaking or fine tuning involved, and running conservatively on the top end. I believe he could pull at least 20whp more out of the setup with some tuning and make it pull even more through the top end.
As Tengai stated, this turbo is no where near it's peak efficiency range. We won't see it really start to put out big power until it hits 14-15psi or so, but it will be in peak efficiency past 20psi.
But, don't get me wrong. This kit has plenty of bottlenecks when it comes to making. So far we've fixed some when it may have been something else all along. Before it's done it's basically going to be a one off custom setup.
Just take it for what its worth now knowing that we've still got a few kinks to work out. We'll have more soon, hopefully. Until then don't crap on my thread, thanks.
The car is running on a very basic tune. That is with no tweaking or fine tuning involved, and running conservatively on the top end. I believe he could pull at least 20whp more out of the setup with some tuning and make it pull even more through the top end.
As Tengai stated, this turbo is no where near it's peak efficiency range. We won't see it really start to put out big power until it hits 14-15psi or so, but it will be in peak efficiency past 20psi.
But, don't get me wrong. This kit has plenty of bottlenecks when it comes to making. So far we've fixed some when it may have been something else all along. Before it's done it's basically going to be a one off custom setup.
Just take it for what its worth now knowing that we've still got a few kinks to work out. We'll have more soon, hopefully. Until then don't crap on my thread, thanks.
yah id like to see a 25psi run on race gas ..that be bad ***...
One thing is Craig now that you have seen the amount of modification the TN kit required is that there is no stage2 on the way since as you mentioned already... its a 1-off setup because of the amount of modifications needed?
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10-26-2007, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
One thing is Craig now that you have seen the amount of modification the TN kit required is that there is no stage2 on the way since as you mentioned already... its a 1-off setup because of the amount of modifications needed?
I have faith though. I know Craig will spill all the beans when he is done.
T(still wants to see the big number
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10-26-2007, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TayTaythatsme04
^^+1 Even though Craig is uncovering a lot of new things about upgrading from the base TN kit, it looks like its a big project if just anybody wanted to go big with there TN kit. Bigger downpipe, bigger turbo, etc etc
I have faith though. I know Craig will spill all the beans when he is done.
T(still wants to see the big number )
I have faith though. I know Craig will spill all the beans when he is done.
T(still wants to see the big number
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The issue is, that in the order we've tried fixes, it's really hard to pinpoint where the main issue is. What I mean is we've improved the setup little by little, but haven't totally worked all the kinks out. I think there will need to be someone else to try one step at a time to see what is the bare minimum required for high boost power.
I'm going to leave that up to Jeremy though. When he's done he should have a nice "Performance Factory Special" upgrade.
10-26-2007, 08:21 AM
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there were 100% threads in the moderator section of closing this sub forum down due to all the stupid drama.
it has been tamed down and people have been warned. it is definitely working !!
we will be offering a complete upgrade, with a larger T-4 turbo, new uppipe downpipe, and whatever pipes it takes to make a lot of single turbo power.
coming soon...
it has been tamed down and people have been warned. it is definitely working !!
we will be offering a complete upgrade, with a larger T-4 turbo, new uppipe downpipe, and whatever pipes it takes to make a lot of single turbo power.
coming soon...
10-26-2007, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
there were 100% threads in the moderator section of closing this sub forum down due to all the stupid drama.
it has been tamed down and people have been warned. it is definitely working !!
we will be offering a complete upgrade, with a larger T-4 turbo, new uppipe downpipe, and whatever pipes it takes to make a lot of single turbo power.
coming soon...
it has been tamed down and people have been warned. it is definitely working !!
we will be offering a complete upgrade, with a larger T-4 turbo, new uppipe downpipe, and whatever pipes it takes to make a lot of single turbo power.
coming soon...
Sweet, a upgrade for us TN owners would be great
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10-26-2007, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
thanks guys, we are pretty much replacing one section at a time on the original TN and then strapping it on the dyno to see what it changed. its a long on going process that we WILL beat!! haha
once we figure out the top secret turbonetics bottleneck issue, we will sell the secrets for $1000 to each customer
once we figure out the top secret turbonetics bottleneck issue, we will sell the secrets for $1000 to each customer
I hope you get to the bottom of it without too much more work.
10-26-2007, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 35ounces
TN ought to pay you for doing their Stage II R&D. I hope you get to the bottom of it without too much more work.
I hope you get to the bottom of it without too much more work.
10-26-2007, 08:42 AM
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its already been too much work. lol. i mean, if i was getting paid per each hour i had into it, well it would be different.
we have had the car on the dyno around 6 or 7 times now, over 50 something hours after the break in process trying to learn and figure out new things.
we will be happy to help everyone out when we are done to get some compensation back from this experience.
we have had the car on the dyno around 6 or 7 times now, over 50 something hours after the break in process trying to learn and figure out new things.
we will be happy to help everyone out when we are done to get some compensation back from this experience.
10-26-2007, 11:24 AM
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yah who knows... but anyways... lets hope we can see some #s/pics this weekend
we've all seen the hummer commercial. 