JWT has traditionally never posted on the boards. I'm not sure that I understand why you'd try to criticize them now for maintaining that course. Their product speaks for itself in my opinion. Why try to drag someone who has been making quality aftermarket Nissan product for decades through the mud based on the shady dealings of one vendor?

I can't blame them for not involving themselves in a flame war.

 

As far as i know jwt has cut all dealings with vrt(new and old).If they did not know and were lied to as the rest of the people on this board, why are people flaming them.

 

I'm not suggesting they have to "post" on the boards daily, weekly, monthly,.....and become a "regular" member.

What I would suggest would be some type of explanation to what's being done from a litigation standpoint. If they have plans to recoup some sort of $$$ amount through litigation, I'd think it would benefit all those who were scammed by Mr. A$$ to know that info. IMO, I think they need to address the whole VRT situation to the community.

JWT and VRT names were used synonymously......JWT let them do the first kits......Did all their (VRT) tuning at JWT......It's probably incomprehensible at to how many kits they (VRT) sold, just by using the JWT with their sales tactics.

You can check Mr. A's early posts and people were even wondering if VRT was some side project of JWT.......Whenever someone would question the 1800rwhp claims by Mr. A...he'd always go back to that "security blanket", "Are you questioning JWT...?", "How dare you question these numbers..." "These numbers were made at JWT so the topic is closed....."

And to the previous poster.....IMO I really haven't seen anyone flame JWT.....but I'd imagine the continued silence, will have people curious?

 

IM not flaming them, i just think that they would want 2 get things handled in a quicker fashion w/ customers of VRT who were screwed, and if they are using litigation, then i think everyone on the boards should know whats going on, and the prev. customers of VRT should be able to join in to create a stronger case against VRT

 

Still no luck reaching them over the phone dozzer1b???

 

Just got off the phone w/ Jim after a 20 minute discussion on a lot of different subjects......basically here is whats going on..........JWT is trying to press Criminal Charges against Mr.A...and they have served him papers, but to no response from Mr. A.....if they do get the criminal charges to go into affect...then Mr. A's BK will be null and viod, and people can then go after him in a civil trial, so...i guess we have to wait and C if JWT can get him in criminal court...if so....then us that were screwed can take advantage of it!

 

Racketeering.

 

I used to love that movie...

 

^^^lol

 

Thanks for the update dozzer1b. Glad to hear some good news.

In your conversation with Jim, did he shed any light on why he/JWT has remained so quiet about the whole VRT mess?

 

Because, frankly, IMO, it is NOT their (JWT) mess and THEY are not the ones with any wrong doings here. Much like us (RA). We both can not and will not answer for VRT and what they have done. JWT is a victum here much like some others on here. So what exactly do you want them to say??

 

First, get it right. I said "VRT mess". Neither I nor buzzardmountain or dave079 accused them of being an accomplice to any of VRT's wrong doings. I'm not saying JWT is a guilty party here. However, like it or not, JWT is involved. As buzzardmountain pointed out, there was a very close and public relationship between VRT and JWT that was repeatedly touted on the forums and import tuner mags. M. Alvarez exclusively used JWT and his relationsip with Jim Wolf as a marketing tool to rip off others. Nobody besides yourself (both then & now) has continually dropped Jim Wolf's name on this site and touted their relationship with him as much as M. Alvarez. This was(is) especially true when being questioned or challenged about a claim being made that is contrary to common knowledge within the community.

I criticized the perceived distance JWT has maintained with members of the Z/G community, especially after VRT exploited their reputation. Get over it. That's not bashing. It's a legitmate question and concern. I still feel that JWT would be better served if they took a more engaging/interactive role with the community/forums at large. It's just good business sense and plenty of other vendors have figured that out.

As far as what I would like to hear from JWT, how about...

1) Some public acknowledgement of what occurred...

2) including some outrage that their company/reputation was exploited to victimize others...

3) along with a gesture of compassion and support for members of the community that were victimized...

4) and their intentions to pursue legal action against VRT/M. Alvarez.

Is that really too much to ask for???


C'mon Scott. Give me a break.

 

If I were them for legal and PR reasons I wouldn't address it publicly either. Sometime the best comment is no comment. You act like this is a new concept or something.

 

I'm familiar with the concept, thanks. I just don't agree with you. IMO, this was a missed opportunity for JWT to reach out to the Z/G community. It would have been nice to see. That's all.

 

JWT has done nothing wrong, nothing. There is no reason for them to apologize to anyone for anything . It is not JWT's fault that Mr A at VRT used them to get more buisness, he pretty much used all of us, Me and Mark included. JWT TT kits were not the exclusive TT kits being installed at VRT, Mr A was just smart enough to use the reputible name of JWT as his main selling point, and it worked. The work that was done at VRT while Mark and I were there was great and legit, it is not any of our faults that MR A got greedy and turned VRT into what it ended up being. THE only reason that VRT even was able to even use and help prototype the kits is from having Mark B being the main mechanic/tuner/installer. Mark was intrusted with those kits, not Mr A. Mark and JWT are close and go back alot of years, so when Mark was hired by VRT we were then (because of Mark) able to get ahold and test/prototype the JWT TT kits. JWT has not endorsed any of the marketing that Mr A has done in the past and they (JWT) are smart enough to make a point to not get caught up in all the political mudslinging, he said, she said, garbage that most of these message board threads turn into. Jim is a very ethitical and smart guy who has been around this Nissan tuning industry for longer than all of us and has seen it all before. This crap is all a waste of time when looking at the big picture. People will always bash, look for someone to blame/share blame with, that is just the way it goes. This is just my observation of this, and I am very close to the situation.

JWT is ALSO one of the victoms here, not the criminal......so they should apologize for what again??

 

OMG!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOUR READING COMPREHENSION?!?!?

I never said or suggested that Jim/JWT should apologize for anything!!! I said it in Post #772 and I will quote it here in bold print so you don't miss it again, "I'm not saying JWT is a guilty party here."

A public acknowledgement/statement doesn't = apology.

You are totally missing the point of what I have been saying. What is so wrong about JWT showing the community that they care about others that were adversely affected/victimized by VRT???

 

I must be, because I am trying to see what you seem to be all bent out of shape at JWT about.

A Public acknowledgement like you seem to be requesting (for some reason) usually is percieved as an apology.

As for a public acknoledgement.....why? UMmm I am pretty sure the people on this message board already know how it all went down, after reading all the posts about it. If you have any issues with JWT or have any "buisness advise for them" then you should do what dozzer1b finally did and contact Jim Wolf by phone directly. I know he is pretty easy to get ahold of and is more than willing to field any questions, maybe you can enlighten him.

 

it umm.......dozzer1b.....thx!

 

Hahaha, ok I will edit it for you. LOL

 

^^ excelent point +1