Vrt.... :-(
Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
Nope no voodoo. Not that I care, but that G made 760whp on a dynopack at 24psi, and the same car cleared well over 700whp on the Dyno Shops dynojetat 22psi, and I think in the 660-680whp range on only 20psi. In front of like 500-600 people on Stillens dyno at the Stillen Days. Maybe all those people where all under the voodoo spell too.
Look, I am not condoneing anything at all that happened at VRT and how it all went down there, at all, but get over the whole voodoo dyno thing. Getting old.
Look, I am not condoneing anything at all that happened at VRT and how it all went down there, at all, but get over the whole voodoo dyno thing. Getting old.
Then why did you post (again) to defend the VRT dyno numbers?
Originally Posted by jonnylaw
Anyone pick up the new sports compact car with the article on the mr. *** situation?
Here's some quick excerpts from the article entitled "Getting Burned":
"We gave Alvarez the opportunity to participate in the 2007 USCC on the condition that he build a homemade skyline by converting a car to all-wheel drive with twin-turbo power. That visit was just a few days before VRT terminated its lease and moved back to its residential garage roots. We were never told."
"Alvarez never came through with the homemade GT-R. Instead, he showed up with a customer's G35 with his time attack car's hurt engine swapped in. His plan was to win the USCC with the car just tuned to make silly power. Something we weren't too interested in."
"About the same time, we started getting pictures over the internet of our Z sitting in front of Casa de Alvarez, with its engine torn out. I inquired about this and was told the car had been moved to his private residence for safety, as the shop had been broken into. He failed to mention that the "shop" no longer existed and Violent Racing Technology was bankrupt. He was now operating under various other corporate guises like Mr. A Enterprises, Verified Racing Technology or VRTparts."
"Even when we confirmed that VRT was out of its lease and now operating out of a residence, the deception and excuses continued. We requested that Alvarez stop work on the car and prepared a laundry list of parts to have ready when we picked it up....He had also sent off our turbo kit (the second complete system he scammed from JWT using our name) in yet another customer's car. By the time we got our car back, the old supercharger and built motor both had parts missing, and the "core" that came back was nothing but a box of scrap metal with damaged heads and block minus its main caps (although the new owners of VRT did eventually cough up another long-block)."
"What finally broke the camel's back was that VRT managed to steal our front brake calipers (even though the wheels were put back on", some cosmetic parts and the rear anti-roll bar, which had nothing to do with pulling the engine. Project Z had been raped and we had been taken by a con man"
"According to the new owners of VRT, Alvarez is no longer involved, although the operation still runs out of Casa de Alvarez. We finally have our Z back and it's being restored under the capable hands of Steve Mitchell of M-Works, along with the helps and parts support of Nissan Motorsport and JWT."
"While we strive only to present and refer to shops we trust and have a long relationship with, we still get suckered on occasion. I just feel bad for those on a long list of VRT customers who have also been burned and have to suck up the loss and rebuild their cars out of their own pockets. It would be great to see everyone gang up and take legal action, but at least Mr. A is done in our industry."
Here's some quick excerpts from the article entitled "Getting Burned":
"We gave Alvarez the opportunity to participate in the 2007 USCC on the condition that he build a homemade skyline by converting a car to all-wheel drive with twin-turbo power. That visit was just a few days before VRT terminated its lease and moved back to its residential garage roots. We were never told."
"Alvarez never came through with the homemade GT-R. Instead, he showed up with a customer's G35 with his time attack car's hurt engine swapped in. His plan was to win the USCC with the car just tuned to make silly power. Something we weren't too interested in."
"About the same time, we started getting pictures over the internet of our Z sitting in front of Casa de Alvarez, with its engine torn out. I inquired about this and was told the car had been moved to his private residence for safety, as the shop had been broken into. He failed to mention that the "shop" no longer existed and Violent Racing Technology was bankrupt. He was now operating under various other corporate guises like Mr. A Enterprises, Verified Racing Technology or VRTparts."
"Even when we confirmed that VRT was out of its lease and now operating out of a residence, the deception and excuses continued. We requested that Alvarez stop work on the car and prepared a laundry list of parts to have ready when we picked it up....He had also sent off our turbo kit (the second complete system he scammed from JWT using our name) in yet another customer's car. By the time we got our car back, the old supercharger and built motor both had parts missing, and the "core" that came back was nothing but a box of scrap metal with damaged heads and block minus its main caps (although the new owners of VRT did eventually cough up another long-block)."
"What finally broke the camel's back was that VRT managed to steal our front brake calipers (even though the wheels were put back on", some cosmetic parts and the rear anti-roll bar, which had nothing to do with pulling the engine. Project Z had been raped and we had been taken by a con man"
"According to the new owners of VRT, Alvarez is no longer involved, although the operation still runs out of Casa de Alvarez. We finally have our Z back and it's being restored under the capable hands of Steve Mitchell of M-Works, along with the helps and parts support of Nissan Motorsport and JWT."
"While we strive only to present and refer to shops we trust and have a long relationship with, we still get suckered on occasion. I just feel bad for those on a long list of VRT customers who have also been burned and have to suck up the loss and rebuild their cars out of their own pockets. It would be great to see everyone gang up and take legal action, but at least Mr. A is done in our industry."
after articles like this...i wouldn't try and defend anythign vrt related, no matter if you think you are right or wrong.
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
scott just a suggestion...
after articles like this...i wouldn't try and defend anythign vrt related, no matter if you think you are right or wrong.
after articles like this...i wouldn't try and defend anythign vrt related, no matter if you think you are right or wrong.
He is not defending Mr. A or VRT, He is trying to state that the car was indeed a monster G35. If a company like JWT, M-Works, Vinny Ten had made that same car, then everyone would have seen how awesome it was. It was not the work of Mr. A that got the car to the 700+ level, it was the genius people he was working with at the time, like his original mechanic and the engineers at JWT. **** hit the fan when that mechanic left, and MR. A started screwing everyone with no lube. (Hopefully he gets the favor returned
)But indeed, a 700+ whp VQ35 is a marvel, it's stupid high power, but a marvel.
As for MR. A, I hope we see him on the street, I got him a blanket party for Christmas!
Originally Posted by jonnylaw
"While we strive only to present and refer to shops we trust and have a long relationship with, we still get suckered on occasion. I just feel bad for those on a long list of VRT customers who have also been burned and have to suck up the loss and rebuild their cars out of their own pockets. It would be great to see everyone gang up and take legal action, but at least Mr. A is done in our industry."
SCC you should take the lead here.
Find a shark of a lawyer for the class action. Do it on contingency if needed. Advertise it in your mag and on the forums. Comming from SCC will give it a lot of instant credibility. If you did this, everyone would contact you to gang up and take legal action.
Be the Hero to a lot of Z and G fans.
Heck, if for nothing else, you could make a continuously running article about it and sell a ton of magazines for it.
It could be a Win/Win for everyone but Mr. A.
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
SCC should take the lead on this. They are in a much better position than most individules to do this. Aside from the tax write off capability, they also have tremendous "power of the pen" to organize and orchestrate such an action. Nobody and no other corporation could do this better than SCC.
SCC you should take the lead here.
Find a shark of a lawyer for the class action. Do it on contingency if needed. Advertise it in your mag and on the forums. Comming from SCC will give it a lot of instant credibility. If you did this, everyone would contact you to gang up and take legal action.
Be the Hero to a lot of Z and G fans.
Heck, if for nothing else, you could make a continuously running article about it and sell a ton of magazines for it.
It could be a Win/Win for everyone but Mr. A.
SCC you should take the lead here.
Find a shark of a lawyer for the class action. Do it on contingency if needed. Advertise it in your mag and on the forums. Comming from SCC will give it a lot of instant credibility. If you did this, everyone would contact you to gang up and take legal action.
Be the Hero to a lot of Z and G fans.
Heck, if for nothing else, you could make a continuously running article about it and sell a ton of magazines for it.
It could be a Win/Win for everyone but Mr. A.
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
SCC should take the lead on this. They are in a much better position than most individules to do this. Aside from the tax write off capability, they also have tremendous "power of the pen" to organize and orchestrate such an action. Nobody and no other corporation could do this better than SCC.
SCC you should take the lead here.
Find a shark of a lawyer for the class action. Do it on contingency if needed. Advertise it in your mag and on the forums. Comming from SCC will give it a lot of instant credibility. If you did this, everyone would contact you to gang up and take legal action.
Be the Hero to a lot of Z and G fans.
Heck, if for nothing else, you could make a continuously running article about it and sell a ton of magazines for it.
It could be a Win/Win for everyone but Mr. A.
SCC you should take the lead here.
Find a shark of a lawyer for the class action. Do it on contingency if needed. Advertise it in your mag and on the forums. Comming from SCC will give it a lot of instant credibility. If you did this, everyone would contact you to gang up and take legal action.
Be the Hero to a lot of Z and G fans.
Heck, if for nothing else, you could make a continuously running article about it and sell a ton of magazines for it.
It could be a Win/Win for everyone but Mr. A.
Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Seems quite the opposite.Everytime someone flames VRT, you step up in their defense..Care to expound?
FYI, I DO NOT and HAVE NOT defended anything that VRT did, or has done. I can not speak for anything that came from that place from 2006 and on. I do and will defend Mark and I's work and the projects that we have worked on and completed, wether it was from OUR early work at VRT, or the proven great work we are still doing now at Relentless Autosports.
So, the G35 refered to in the earlier post was for real and made real power, that is all I am saying here, not doing any defending of VRT whatsoever, quite the oposite.
So, Julian. Please stop trying constantly to lump me or my new company in with the crap that ended up going down with VRT. The two companies have NOTHING to do with eachother and most of the smarter and more informed members on this forum know that already.
Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
scott just a suggestion...
after articles like this...i wouldn't try and defend anythign vrt related, no matter if you think you are right or wrong.
after articles like this...i wouldn't try and defend anythign vrt related, no matter if you think you are right or wrong.
Last edited by WA2GOOD; Dec 14, 2007 at 11:59 AM.
Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
So, Julian. Please stop trying constantly to lump me or my new company in with the crap that ended up going down with VRT. The two companies have NOTHING to do with eachother and most of the smarter and more informed members on this forum know that already.
PS and you might want to take the "CO-OWNER" of VRT off your myspace
Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
Umm You obviously did not read wht it was I stated in that post you are refering to. Since you are so keen, You show me in that post where I am defending VRT! Show me! I merely stated that that G35 (in question) that was build at VRT by MARK was indeed a real car making that power, that is it. Think about what you are stateing before you post.
Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Im not lumping anything.Your the one that keeps posting in a positive light for VRT.
I frankly could care less what you believe, Mr mrc, and I would apreciate it greatly if you would refraim from mentioning me, quoteing me, and even referencing to me or my company at all, THAT would be in YOUR best interest. thanks
Last edited by WA2GOOD; Dec 14, 2007 at 03:15 PM.
Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
So, Julian. Please stop trying constantly to lump me or my new company in with the crap that ended up going down with VRT. The two companies have NOTHING to do with eachother and most of the smarter and more informed members on this forum know that already.
Yeah and the new VRT has nothing to do with the old VRT Scott, give it a rest, you were part 'owner' of the biggest scam know to the 350Z/G35 community...
Originally Posted by Philthy
Yeah and the new VRT has nothing to do with the old VRT Scott, give it a rest, you were part 'owner' of the biggest scam know to the 350Z/G35 community...
I have no idea what is happening with the new owners of VRT, have had no contact with them at all
It kills me to see something that had great potiential fall into the wrong hands and turn into something so currupt.
Last edited by WA2GOOD; Dec 14, 2007 at 03:46 PM.
Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
Maybe, but I was out of there before all the scamming even started, nice try guys.
I have no idea what is happening with the new owners of VRT, have had no contact with them at all
It kills me to see something that had great potiential , fall into the wrong hands and turn into something so currupt.
I have no idea what is happening with the new owners of VRT, have had no contact with them at all
It kills me to see something that had great potiential , fall into the wrong hands and turn into something so currupt.
Originally Posted by Philthy
VRT was scamming with bogus claims and BS Dynos long before you left...