Looking to track my Z but have zero experience.
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Looking to track my Z but have zero experience.
Hey guys I was wondering what you SoCal guys would recommend? I'm in LA (Marina Del Rey area) and want to track my Z but I have zero track experience.
Should I start by doing a school or are there local tracks where I can have someone experienced ride along with me?
How much does it cost and aside from making sure my tires/brakes/oil/car-in-general is in good shape is there anything I need to do?
Just looking for general advice for a newbie to tracking.
Thanks in advance!
Should I start by doing a school or are there local tracks where I can have someone experienced ride along with me?
How much does it cost and aside from making sure my tires/brakes/oil/car-in-general is in good shape is there anything I need to do?
Just looking for general advice for a newbie to tracking.
Thanks in advance!
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I don't know if autocross is for me. I appreciate the input but I've always kind of had my passion in tracking. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise? I certainly don't know much at all about autoX.
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Speedventures.com
You might want to check out www.speedventures.com. They hold track events at Buttonwillow, Willow Springs, Autoclub(California) Speedway. I went to the Buttonwillow event on a Friday a while back. I think i paid $150-$170. They have different classes from beginner to advanced. I think you get about 4-5 20 minute sessions on the track. You do need a helmet which you can rent. There are instructors that can ride with you to help on the track. It was definitely a bit intimidating at first but once you get to know the track it is great fun.
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+1 for speedventures. i've been runnin' with 'em for quite some time now. they actually have an event at buttonwillow which is suited for beginners. i think it's in mid november.
before you start pourin' money into a track machine, the first thing i recommend would be some good track pads, and DOT 4 fluid. the brake fluid is an absolute must, even if you don't track the car that often.
learn how to drive the car how it is first. concentrate on driving style rather than how a $2k coilover setup could improve your lap times. you will find the results much more satisfying.
before you start pourin' money into a track machine, the first thing i recommend would be some good track pads, and DOT 4 fluid. the brake fluid is an absolute must, even if you don't track the car that often.
learn how to drive the car how it is first. concentrate on driving style rather than how a $2k coilover setup could improve your lap times. you will find the results much more satisfying.
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track days are fun... and addictive. My name is Paulie and Im a track addict
I do have lots of threads in the autocross/roadcourse forum here... just search my name here and my old threads.. lots of info.. I was once like you looking for some info on how to track the car.. and I kept trackin the car to the point that I won 2nd place unlimited class on a Nissan event Time Attack last year
Anyway, Priority is obviously safety. Speed will be your last. Safety involves control of your car and making sure that your car is in good track condition.
Race brake pads will be a good investment since one track day is probably all it takes to kill some OEM pads. It would be good to invest on track only race pads and (if you daily drive your car) keep your oem brake pads for daily use. Brake fluid will be a good investment
For tires, since you are a beginner, I would suggest keep your current ones. It is NOT a good idea to be a beginner at the track and have R compound tires on.
race brake pads would cost you 100-300 bucks all 4 depending on brand.
race brake fluid (high temp brake fluids)
helmet that is approved SA2000 at least: 150 bucks and up depending on brand
registration fee at least 125 bucks to 350 bucks depending on which track it is and which event organizer it will be
I can go on and on.. but I think it will be best if you go on my old threads for the information. There are also some pics there on my progress to keep you entertained hehe
Good luck on tracking your car. I hope to see you around when I get my car back out of hibernation
I do have lots of threads in the autocross/roadcourse forum here... just search my name here and my old threads.. lots of info.. I was once like you looking for some info on how to track the car.. and I kept trackin the car to the point that I won 2nd place unlimited class on a Nissan event Time Attack last year
Anyway, Priority is obviously safety. Speed will be your last. Safety involves control of your car and making sure that your car is in good track condition.
Race brake pads will be a good investment since one track day is probably all it takes to kill some OEM pads. It would be good to invest on track only race pads and (if you daily drive your car) keep your oem brake pads for daily use. Brake fluid will be a good investment
For tires, since you are a beginner, I would suggest keep your current ones. It is NOT a good idea to be a beginner at the track and have R compound tires on.
race brake pads would cost you 100-300 bucks all 4 depending on brand.
race brake fluid (high temp brake fluids)
helmet that is approved SA2000 at least: 150 bucks and up depending on brand
registration fee at least 125 bucks to 350 bucks depending on which track it is and which event organizer it will be
I can go on and on.. but I think it will be best if you go on my old threads for the information. There are also some pics there on my progress to keep you entertained hehe
Good luck on tracking your car. I hope to see you around when I get my car back out of hibernation
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Hey guys, thanks for all the great info so far!!
I'm not looking to do any modifications to my car just yet. I'm not interested in learning to track the Z specifically or creating a track monster but more in the theory and practice of high performance driving. I figure the Z is a great beginners car because it's very easy to drive and relatively well balanced.
Keep the info coming and don't worry about long posts, I like to read!
I'm not looking to do any modifications to my car just yet. I'm not interested in learning to track the Z specifically or creating a track monster but more in the theory and practice of high performance driving. I figure the Z is a great beginners car because it's very easy to drive and relatively well balanced.
Keep the info coming and don't worry about long posts, I like to read!
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like I said from my above post, search through my name here and my threads re: track days youll get more info on high performance driving events (HPDE) and such.
There are plenty of tracks in So Cal.
Buttonwillow which has plenty of configurations is REALLY fun.
Willow Springs has 3 tracks, big willow, streets, and horse thief mile.
Auto Club Speedway is also fun and really fast since you get to drive on the part of the oval track where Nascar run
I would suggest you go to beginner class and go ride along with instructors. The instructors are very knowledgeable with HPDE and tracking and they will teach you pretty much everything you need to know. Be a sponge and absorb EVERY info they tell you and you should be good. You can have em drive your car too and see what they can do with it
There are plenty of tracks in So Cal.
Buttonwillow which has plenty of configurations is REALLY fun.
Willow Springs has 3 tracks, big willow, streets, and horse thief mile.
Auto Club Speedway is also fun and really fast since you get to drive on the part of the oval track where Nascar run
I would suggest you go to beginner class and go ride along with instructors. The instructors are very knowledgeable with HPDE and tracking and they will teach you pretty much everything you need to know. Be a sponge and absorb EVERY info they tell you and you should be good. You can have em drive your car too and see what they can do with it
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Man I would love to come out but my car is a street car and I don't think I want to suffer the potential engine damage (heat, stress, etc) that could incur if I tracked, even a few times a year. Not to mention all the extra track upgrades I would need, break, tires, etc.
I think I'll do some AutoX instead with my Z.
Also looking at picking up an old Miata or similar so I can beat on that at a real track.
I think I'll do some AutoX instead with my Z.
Also looking at picking up an old Miata or similar so I can beat on that at a real track.
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i would say for a newbie to driving your car really hard and its kinda your first time with a rwd, probably best to go autox. if you lose it there, you're only hitting cones instead of off the track and into dirt or worse. i wanna get into some autox later once i get some money saved up.
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Consider advise from only the people who have tracked their car before. Most other members have zero track time like yourself and will only regurgitate what they have heard and/or read, hence misleading you with information they do not fully understand themselves.
As Paulie has mentioned, search their names or just spend time visiting the track section of this and most any other forums ( i.e. g35driver.com )
As Paulie has mentioned, search their names or just spend time visiting the track section of this and most any other forums ( i.e. g35driver.com )
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I have 10+ track event experience and 0 autocross.
I'd try autocross and maybe I should have tried autocross first, cuz when I spun out at the track for the first time, I spun out like no one else. I didn't get hurt but I could have gotten hurt if it was at a hill or on uneven surface.
My thought is.. if you can learn how to control the car at lower speed with safer area, it might be better to start there.
If you decide to go to the track before autocross, like me,
I'd NEVER recommend using R-comp tires or coilovers on your first event.
The more speed, the harder it will be to control and to stay away from getting into an accident.
I'd totally stick with speedventures.
Pay for a full day instructor, and go from there.
Drink a lot of water at the track and remember that you are there to have fun to become a better driver, not to be driving faster than other drivers.
I'd try autocross and maybe I should have tried autocross first, cuz when I spun out at the track for the first time, I spun out like no one else. I didn't get hurt but I could have gotten hurt if it was at a hill or on uneven surface.
My thought is.. if you can learn how to control the car at lower speed with safer area, it might be better to start there.
If you decide to go to the track before autocross, like me,
I'd NEVER recommend using R-comp tires or coilovers on your first event.
The more speed, the harder it will be to control and to stay away from getting into an accident.
I'd totally stick with speedventures.
Pay for a full day instructor, and go from there.
Drink a lot of water at the track and remember that you are there to have fun to become a better driver, not to be driving faster than other drivers.
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