Originally Posted by supraturboman

I understand that. But most of those are actually the traction rod.. I want the ones that get rid of the spring bucket.

Originally Posted by JaE35z

wow these coils really brought the noobs out lol...i highly recommend you guys get someone to help you with the install, who the hell needs instructions to install coilovers? But on a serious note there's numerous threads on the install procedure and adjusting properly. I'd start with the suspension 101 thread in the suspension section.

Originally Posted by supraturboman

anyone know who sells the spring bucket delete arm??

Originally Posted by sssmasss

i need instruction to install coilovers. i havent install any coilovers before. and i m sure at some point in your life you receive information on how to install it too. Nothing wrong with asking question dude

Originally Posted by Darkknight916

You know, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, G35 drivers still DO serve a purpose

Originally Posted by Darkknight916

= "i don't want to use the search tool... J/K dude.

Anyway, SPL makes a mid link... if you use the stock coil version of these coil overs. If you utilize the true coilover version of this then talk to TOPSPEED, otherwise, you could search Z1motorsports.com they have an ENTIRE section for suspension.

Kintex, SPL, stillen. I have the kintex setup and they're pretty descent. Almost went with GSP (godspeedproject) but the Kintex were a better deal as well as less susceptible to fracture. Be thorough when looking for the arms, some people have seen them snap, see post #6

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...ny-others.html
hope this helps

Originally Posted by supraturboman

Well i did a little bit of searching. The majority of what i found is the traction rod. And alot of people call those the toe arms. Although they do not delete the spring bucket. I did order the arms from george,but he sent me the traction arms and camber arms. NO spring bucket delete arm like I asked for. I have seen the SPL one's and they look great..I am a noob to the 350z world. I just wanted to make sure I order the correct one this time.. Also Does anyone have a picture of the Topspeed coilovers assembled in the true Coilover style for the rear? I want to make sure I have them assembled correctly.

Originally Posted by supraturboman

...Also Does anyone have a picture of the Topspeed coilovers assembled in the true Coilover style for the rear? I want to make sure I have them assembled correctly.

Originally Posted by ChaChin*****

I'm also in interested in buying the rear toe arms, how much?

Originally Posted by Darkknight916

i got a set from TOP SPEED with the order... only $80 ish. Didn't change the FREE SHIPPING...

Originally Posted by supraturboman

Well i did a little bit of searching. The majority of what i found is the traction rod. And alot of people call those the toe arms. Although they do not delete the spring bucket. I did order the arms from george,but he sent me the traction arms and camber arms. NO spring bucket delete arm like I asked for. I have seen the SPL one's and they look great..I am a noob to the 350z world. I just wanted to make sure I order the correct one this time.. Also Does anyone have a picture of the Topspeed coilovers assembled in the true Coilover style for the rear? I want to make sure I have them assembled correctly.

Originally Posted by JasonZ-YA

REAR - Camber and Toe:

When lowering the Z – lets talk 1.0 to 1.5 inch drop:
You will need rear camber arms and rear 3 degree toe bolt at a bare minimum. ---> everyone buys the SPC toe bolt...

Here are the two rear alignment locations for both OEM camber and toe:


CAMBER:
You need an adjustable camber arm! – done and done! Go buy one!
There are many camber arms out there……..which to choose? That’s entirely up to you and your budget, etc.

I however like those that are designed where the adjustment nuts/turnbuckles are not hard to get to.

Take a look below and see what I am talking about – Those camber arms that are designed with the adjustments close to the bushing side are hard to adjust with a huge 19-21 mm wrench due to the aluminum sub frame LUG getting in the way. You try getting in there and making adjustments!! pppffff..

To each their own on what you purchase – see here on what im talking about:


CHOICE of ROD END STYLE OR BUSHING STYLE ARMS:
You can chose when buying a rear camber arm if you want ROD END style end or if you want bushing style end. One may result in noise - MINE DID, but I just spray it every 3 months or so with lithium lube.

I choose ROD END style ended rear camber arms because I track my car, and I don't want a bushing to fail ever! So i opted
for the solid rod end style versus bushing end style.

ALSO, take note that the rod end style when installed between the lug of the rear aluminum subframe can be torqued down tight and squeezed to high torque spec and the movement is still free because its SOLID and a "rod end"........IF you try torquing down the eccentric washer at the end of a bushing style camber arm you are essentially squeezing the bushing and prematurely wearing the bushing out by limiting its "give".

re-read that if you have to.....

ALSO NOTE, THAT THIS ALSO APPLIES WITH ANY OTHER ARMS YOU BUY! ROD END VERSUS BUSHING END PARTS!



ROD END STYLE:
SPL Parts:

http://splparts.com/store/product-info.php?pid25.html
Stillen:

Circuit sports:

https://my350z.com/forum/suspension/...it-sports.html
Only downside is the casted rod end to them, but hey, its your car....keep reading...

Eibachs - the black ones - newer revisions are bushing, but now have a brass sleeve, this keeps the bushing from crushing and makes them a happy medium in decision making:



CASTED ROD ENDS:
Stay away from the cheap casted rod ends.........9 out of 10 "ARMS" built for the Z use aluminum or steel spacers at the rod end in order to accept the oem bolt and mount on the car! This allows many manufactures to purchase CHEAP SAE 3/4" or 5/8" cast rod ends that cost 2 bucks or less each and simply machine the spacers to the METRIC size bolt of the car! (rear camber and toe bolt dia is M12x1.25)

Purchase ARMS that use machined rod ends for strength and are of METRIC thread size, etc...

SEE HERE:



AFTER MARKET TOE BOLTS - MORE TOE ADJUSTMENT:
Now the oem eccentric washers that are on the Car for "Toe" (at the spring bucket to aluminum subframe location) really start to loose alignment spec capability once you go past a 3/4 inch drop or combination of drop and wheels with different sizes/offsets, etc...…

SPC sells part number 72055 toe bolts along with a few other companies that make 3 degree CAPABLE toe bolts! –

Now these are toe bolts sized to replace your oem eccentric toe bolts yet they allow more adjustment with a “more” off centered axis on the eccentric washer. “in other words, its "more egg shaped” due to the bolt being MORE off centered that the oem egg shaped washers.

LETS COMPARE OEM AND SPC TOE BOLT ECCENTRIC WASHERS SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THE ADDED DEGREES OF TOE ADJUSTMENT COME FROM:

OEM:


SPC:


ANOTHER PIC:



Also, These are NON SPC BOLTS - BUT Identical as well as they are "3 degree" bolts:
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...alignment.html

HOW TO INSTALL THE SPC REAR TOE BOLT:
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...-protocav.html

These more degrees of adjustment bolts work fine for a daily driven Z………….more on their track failures to come.

Originally Posted by 1991ls13

So i guess that the sticky( suspension 101) i read and many others is wrong when speaking about what a toe arm replaces...., and your correct??? LMAO

Originally Posted by AllstarE4

The guy is saying that he ordered TOE ARMS from George and received TRACTION ARMS instead. Your attempt at making him look stupid backfired. Your link there doesn't show every component. There is a camber arm, a toe arm (or spring bucket), and then a traction arm. He needs the toe arm (spring bucket delete arm) and received the traction arm instead.

Supraturboman I sent you a PM.

Originally Posted by 1991ls13

So i guess that the sticky( suspension 101) i read and many others is wrong when speaking about what a toe arm replaces...., and your correct??? LMAO

Originally Posted by AllstarE4

The guy is saying that he ordered TOE ARMS from George and received TRACTION ARMS instead. Your attempt at making him look stupid backfired. Your link there doesn't show every component. There is a camber arm, a toe arm (or spring bucket), and then a traction arm. He needs the toe arm (spring bucket delete arm) and received the traction arm instead.

Supraturboman I sent you a PM.

Originally Posted by supraturboman

Yes I just read your PM thank you. That is the arm that I need. An NO I was not trying to make Gheorge look stupid by any means. He is a great guy to do buisness with. Alot of companies call the traction rod the toe arm,but despite that it is not the one that I needed.. But To say again, George is a great seller and am not mad at him at all.

Originally Posted by 1991ls13

^^ then i guess i was misinformed and ordered the wrong thing too...hmm, ill have to ask..

and before dumbas** call people kid or fool online, go check yourself, cause one day, that `kid is gonna live by you and know its you talking ****. And that `kid` will be a grown a$$ man twice your size and has a temper

if the internet had a lil button that showed who you were and magically was able to be where the other was...Most people would talk 100% different... Not saying you are a little kid, but it just gets me thinking when i see lil dudes talking sh** to people like Mike tyson that would bite a fu*** ear off.