Originally Posted by KA24DE

Say's who? You? And who are you again, and what have you accomplished?

Originally Posted by WalkerT

Well here is my .2 cents.

There are a lot of factors that a dyno can not tell you. They are a good tool if used correctly and they can tell you of a problem ... but only to a point. The effects of 50-80 mph air on the front of a car and going into an opening on your front bumper is hard to duplicate on a dyno. So does the Injen look like a good design yes and no. Yes because it does place the filter element in a cooler place than a in engine bay open filter intake does. The down side is the longer tube. Here is were it can get tricky because a longer intake tube can improve residence and increase torque. This usually causes a decrease in horse power because of the extra volume that has to be moved.

One thing I think most people miss with the stock intakes that makes them so damn good. There is a high pressure area right were the stock intakes suck from. The radiators will only let so much air in at a time and the air builds up right in front of the radiator with no were to go. If you look at the under side
of your hood you will see a black circular seal. This seal in there to prevent the
air from flowing over the rad support and across the top of the engine. The
only other passage for the air is into the two openings for the stock intakes.
This will actually create a ram effect above a particular speed. If you look
between you bumper and Rad you will see that Nissan has done a good job in
managing the air and making sure flows into the intakes and not into
thefender wells or around the Rad. This is the problem with open air filters in
the
engine bay. You loose the pressure and the effect of the air management. Yes
the air will blow a certain amount of ambient air on the intake but not the
same as stock.
Back to the Injen design they put the filters in a great place but the air will
bleed around the tube and into the engine bay and not build pressure in the
intake as the stock one will. Please note that we are talking about a small
amount of pressure but even a same amount of PSI will make a
difference.

Originally Posted by visionz

What if the Injen R&D figured out a way to replicate how to replicate how the stock intake behaves down to how much air pressure and velocity it delivers and the only difference is that cooler air is coming in? This is exactly what Injen did and the inner tube has something extra that enabled them to do this.

Originally Posted by visionz

What if the Injen R&D figured out a way to replicate how the stock intake behaves down to how much air pressure and velocity it delivers and the only difference is that cooler air is coming in? This is exactly what Injen did and the inner tube has something extra they produced that enabled them to do
this.

Originally Posted by WalkerT

There is an inner tube? That is cool. Can we get a pic of that?
I am not saying this is a horrible design just stating why the stock ones work so well and some of the other designes loose hp.

Originally Posted by visionz

not an entirely whole inner tube. it's more like a mini tube designed to specifically alter how air passes through the chamber. the injen r&d guy pointed it out to me and saw it with my own eyes. he explained what you described in your post and this little inlet fixes what other manufacturers couldn't figure out and that is, how can you really make power with an intake for the HR? this is why injen took almost a year to make it and long after everyone else realeased theirs.

when someone get's a hold of one of these, peak inside the tube and you'll see what i'm talking about.

Originally Posted by ncparamedic

Its tough to make assumptions on both sides. I am open minded until the product comes out. Though the OP has an actual product and produced what appeared good numbers. I also maintain the validity of previous data on the "older" twin intake models. There appears to be more than enough data to prove the claims of loss of HP on those. Before we get into a pissing match between sides, lets see what happens when it comes out.

KA24DE, You need to go back and research information and compare the data on the single intake DE and the twin intake HR engines. You will see the difference between the two DIFFERENT VQ platforms and the response with intakes.

VizionZ, Keep us up to date. I cant wait to see this product and see what it has to offer.

Originally Posted by A.H

I would posts pics if someone decides to stock them....

Originally Posted by KA24DE

You have no idea what you are talking about. Please stop.

Originally Posted by KA24DE

You have no idea what you are talking about. Please stop.

Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0

I believe that was my advice to you, but you obviously ignored it. Please enlighten us as to what your superior knowledge and experience with the VQ platform is to justify you to be so arrogant as a noob here. You sir, are the one who needs to stop.

Originally Posted by KA24DE

No point in trying to make a point with these guys. GOOD aftermarket intakes will make power. For instance, I know JWT intakes will make more power than stock, PERIOD.

This looks like an excellent product, let the rest of this idiots wallow in their ignorance.

Originally Posted by Allen331

Also, there is a reason why many of those going for the Technosquare reflash are selling their aftermarket intakes, and going back to stock.

Originally Posted by visionz

^ True! Except for me, Tadashi didn't recommend that I go back to stock. I wonder why?